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New To Group......What I saw Yesterday

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My name is Marty Soder (aka Sir Marrdro).  Just joined the group this morning.    I love talking football and I even love talking Vikings football even more.  Looks like an exciting group to do both.  

Having said that..........What I saw:

 

Game Plan.

 

I loved what the staff did on both sides of the ball
especially the way they worked on the areas of the Bucs defense that was
weakened by injuries.  A few Bucs fans
are saying we won because they were dinged. 
I'm not buying that drivel.  All
teams are dinged a bit this year.  The
good ones work through those dings and take ADVANTAGE of the dings the other
teams are having.

 

Defense.

 

DB's.   Anyone
still think Sendejo is a dang good Strong Safety?  Sure, he's not a shutdown CB, but he is great
in run support, great in tackling and even better at hitting people.  Smitty's INT should really be credited to our
SS who laid the lumber.

 

Also, I see lots of hacks on Trae this morning, mostly
because the Announcer highlighted how far behind he was on a reception.  The truth was, our DB's were in a C2 zone and
a RB came out into the flat/zone Trae had responsibility for.  His job was to hand off and get back in his
zone.   In the end, he is a Zone CB who
can sometimes do an OK job as a "Man" CB.  Continually hacking on him because he is not
a "Man" CB drives me crazy. 

 

DL (Especially our 1 and 3 Tech DT's).    Warpigs getting some yesterday.  I absolutely loved how the DE's contained
first, then rushed after the Warpigs in the middle collapsed the pocket,
pushing the QB to the DE instead of the DE's trying to chase down the QB.

 

Offense.

 

OL.  I'm still
buying into this group as a good unit that just needs to work on cohesion.  When Cook hit the "A" gap, it was a
complete line shift to the left, with the Right Tackle actually blocking down
on the "A" gap assignments.   That does not happen unless the whole line is
on the same page.  Great job by the bigs
in the trenches on that side of the ball.

 

RB.  I love our
rotation and I love the group that is rotating. 
Dalvin is for real.  Absolutely
love trying to figure out if it’s a run or a pass with him in there.  I know D-coords can't be happy that we are no
longer one-dimensional.

 

WR's.   Take Diggs
away, Adam is open. Take Adam away, Diggs is open, try to take them both away
Jarius scores a TD.......Again, something that has to have D-coords staying
awake at nights.

 

QB.  Again, most
Bucs are saying he had a great game because their D was dinged.  I'm not buying that.  He still had to make the reads and he still
had to make the throws.  One thing I am
surprised (even though I knew), he sure has a cannon for an arm.  And pretty accurate to say the least.

 

In the end, this was a great game to watch. Wasn't on the
edge of my seat the whole game, but sometimes its nice to watch a boring
blowout.

 

As always, SKOL my brothers and sisters.

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#1 · Sep 25, 6:11 AM
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Welcome Marrdro.  I'm not on here as much as I used to be, and yesterday in particular, I was finishing up hop harvest here, and kept madly checking my iPhone for scores and updates on the game, so I wasn't able to make any of the observations that you (or anyone else) made, but the stats stick out for themselves.    Thanks for the post and Welcome...now about the fridge..it's empty after a W, and it's your turn to stock it.

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#2 · Sep 25, 6:44 AM
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Welcome, good write-up...

Sendejo has grown into a solid S. - not a cover guy but playing smarter,  Waynes concerns me, plays off too much, the kid from Seattle (Brickman? Brockman?) sucked yesterday. 

Cook ground it out...Really impressed with our starting two WR's.

OL not a hot mess, interested to see how they gel as the year progresses. 

We're going to need Sam back, Keenum is a back-up for a reason. Where has Hunter been? 

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#3 · Sep 25, 6:45 AM
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Welcome Sir Marrdro. Good observations. I just read a Mark Craig article where Shurmur schemed to take Gerald McCoy out of the game plan. Injuries or not, that kind of planning and execution on TBs best defender is a good sign of things to come.

I'm still down on Waynes. His cushion at the line is way too much for the type of D we normally run. I think he lacks confidence in everything but his speed. Too often he's trailing the WR at the catch. That's a technique issue. An INT here and there is nice, but I'd rather see tighter coverage overall at the risk of an occasional deep shot.

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I want to see what Brock is about after he goals through Zimmmers schooling for DBs

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#5 · Sep 25, 6:56 AM
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Welcome aboard!! 

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#6 · Sep 25, 7:11 AM
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Howdy and Welcome!  Good to have new people on board.

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Welcome Marrdro,  nice write up and I agree on many points.  I've been saying for a few years that Sendejo isnt as bad as many fans want to put on him.  Yes there is room for improvements,  but he doesnt hurts us as much as he helps us... they cant all be superstars on defense and any safety is going to look lacking playing next to Harrison Smith.

I have also been irritated that they havent been getting JW involved in the offense more,  he has never really gotten a lot of opportunities,  but it always seems like when he is in there that he is making plays on the few looks that he does get.

The Bucs D might be a little dinged, ( i know Vikings fans would be saying the same if we were in their place)  however yesterday everything was clicking for the Vikes,  it might have been closer,  but the result would have been the same IMO.

anyway,  welcome aboard.

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welcome aboard and a great write up.  I was impressed with both sides of the ball yesterday.  Hopefully the team continues to get better.

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Welcome aboard.  You picked a good time to join.  The mood here is always better after a nice butt kickin'.  B)

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Welcome aboard Marrdro.  Great write up.

Of course that doesn't mean you get out of newbie KP duty.  Grab a mop to swab the decks and make sure there's plenty of ale to go around. 

After that, looking forward to more of your insight.

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Welcome aboard my old friend Marrdro. Nice write up. One thing I would add is the offensive game plan and play calling was creative and masterful. After last year I was afraid Shurmur was going to dink and dunk us to death. I'm happy that isn't the case.

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@"ThunderGod" said: I want to see what Brock is about after he goals through Zimmmers schooling for DBs
Zim's school has netted us Waynes and Alexander both of whom have had talent when drafted and both of whom haven't developed into much.  I think we're over stating Zim's DB whisperer status. 
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@"AGRforever" said:
@"ThunderGod" said: I want to see what Brock is about after he goals through Zimmmers schooling for DBs
Zim's school has netted us Waynes and Alexander both of whom have had talent when drafted and both of whom haven't developed into much.  I think we're over stating Zim's DB whisperer status. 

I do know that it took a little time to get Captain on board so hopefully this is the case with Brock.

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@"AGRforever" said:
@"ThunderGod" said: I want to see what Brock is about after he goals through Zimmmers schooling for DBs
Zim's school has netted us Waynes and Alexander both of whom have had talent when drafted and both of whom haven't developed into much.  I think we're over stating Zim's DB whisperer status. 
Dunno, Rhodes is being talked about at the #1 CB in the NFL right now.  Waynes gets lots of attention because the teams avoid Rhodes, and our D has been pretty stout, so I don't think you can say Waynes isn't any good right now.  Alexander is still a work in progress, but again, our D has held down some pretty good offenses.  Brees, Ben and one of the best WR groups in the NFL and now Evans and Jackson.
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It didn't take Zimmer very long to get our whole defense from the bottom to the top.  It's total defense not one position that Zimmer excels at.  Now can his hiring of Shurmur before last year pay huge dividends - early returns say yes!

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@"Marrdro" said:  

DB's.   Anyone
still think Sendejo is a dang good Strong Safety?  Sure, he's not a shutdown CB, but he is great
in run support, great in tackling and even better at hitting people.  Smitty's INT should really be credited to our
SS who laid the lumber.
Sendejo is a solid safety and allows Smith to be used in many different ways.  Loved how our safeties punished the WRs yesterday.

 

Also, I see lots of hacks on Trae this morning, mostly
because the Announcer highlighted how far behind he was on a reception.  The truth was, our DB's were in a C2 zone and
a RB came out into the flat/zone Trae had responsibility for.  His job was to hand off and get back in his
zone.   In the end, he is a Zone CB who
can sometimes do an OK job as a "Man" CB.  Continually hacking on him because he is not
a "Man" CB drives me crazy. 

 Waynes is going to see plenty of balls come his way because Rhodes is on the other side.  And having someone like Rhodes on the team will make the rest look rather pedestrian.  Waynes is playing solid team defense right now, not mistake free, but solid.  He can make plays because of his speed.  I also really like that he is a very willing tackler this year.  He had the rep of not being a good tackler, but he sticks his nose in there this year.

DL (Especially our 1 and 3 Tech DT's).    Warpigs getting some yesterday.  I absolutely loved how the DE's contained
first, then rushed after the Warpigs in the middle collapsed the pocket,
pushing the QB to the DE instead of the DE's trying to chase down the QB.

 Joseph is a beast.  Love watching him cover ground and swallow up RBs.

Offense.

 

OL.  I'm still
buying into this group as a good unit that just needs to work on cohesion.  When Cook hit the "A" gap, it was a
complete line shift to the left, with the Right Tackle actually blocking down
on the "A" gap assignments.   That does not happen unless the whole line is
on the same page.  Great job by the bigs
in the trenches on that side of the ball.

 Our OL moved as a unit yesterday.  The protection was amazing, sealing of everything and letting Keenum chuck it downfield.  The run blocking was dang good as well.

 

WR's.   Take Diggs
away, Adam is open. Take Adam away, Diggs is open, try to take them both away
Jarius scores a TD.......Again, something that has to have D-coords staying
awake at nights.

 Love watching this group grow and tear it up.

Enjoyed reading your post.  Please post more.

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#17 · Sep 25, 10:00 AM
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Welcome aboard ~ Marrdro! Thanks for the great write-up. SKOL!!!

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Welcome...

Bucs without 4 starters on D to start the game, then the already dinged up McCoy gets dinged again...then David goes out(after the game had been decided IIRC)...Keenum and the O played very well but to underestimate the advantage we had with a third of their D starters out to start the game is just silly...

OL has definitely improved over last year's injury ravaged unit, but there's lots of room for improvement in the run game...pass pro has been very good...4 pressures on Keenum...

Love the WR play so far, but jfc Diggs...slowing down and hot dogging at the 15 yard line is asking for trouble...nearly got it...could have swung momentum...stupid display which is getting to be a staple of his game...

Rhodes is our best defender...I'm trying to think of a better CB in franchise history...I'm coming up empty...probably the surest fantasy bet right now is to bench any WR1 that Rhodes will mark...

Cook is our best all around RB since Foreman...starting to see him get more comfortable as a receiver...laid some nice blocks...

Looking like Preifer's 7 year run of having a top 3 KR squad is over...with the number of FC Sherels calls, I think we don't have to worry about overuse if we use him as a KR too...

Trying to recall Alexander being singled out or in trouble yesterday...

Bucs abandoned the run game fairly quickly...good prep for how the Lions will play us...

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Ball security is the number one attribute of a punt returner. That's how he won the job.

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@"purplefaithful" said: Welcome, good write-up...

Sendejo has grown into a solid S. - not a cover guy but playing smarter,  Waynes concerns me, plays off too much, the kid from Seattle (Brickman? Brockman?) sucked yesterday. 

Cook ground it out...Really impressed with our starting two WR's.

OL not a hot mess, interested to see how they gel as the year progresses. 

We're going to need Sam back, Keenum is a back-up for a reason. Where has Hunter been? 


Hunter has been doing his job.....Contain first, Seal the edge second, rush the passer third.  I think its pretty cool to see he and Griff swap jobs were Hunter can "Rush First" at the RDE spot.

Agree on getting Sam back, but I think our WR corps actually makes the QB better.  In short, we can win with Case as long as we don't have a butt load of penalties like we did against the Steelers.

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