BREAKING: Vikings make trade with Houston, add 1st round pick

@"Purplewhizz" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

KO is a phenomenal play designer and the players love him. He's decent with his challenges and he's young enough to have upside. Anyone upset about the job he's done has unrealistic expectations. Anyways back to the topic... BOOM! (Hi Wet) Losing next year's second stings but overall good move. Now we need the Pats to go for it. I'm really hoping for another announcement fairly quickly. Would sit much more comfortable knowing we have a top 4 pick in hand versus sweating it out for the next month+, but that may be the reality. Either way, I admire Kwesi for having a plan and working it. Whether it's a good plan or not remains to be seen but kudos to him for having a vision and trying to make it happen. Honestly even if we move up to the 3 and take Penix, there will be people who bemoan VaLuE or whatever but if the team has conviction on one guy, then they need that guy. Even if it's an "overpay". Teams get crazy every year and draft players way before they're mocked. They can't leave the face of the franchise to chance... as I've been telling you all  ;). Let's go get JJM or Maye!!! I'll have NFLShop.com on standby on draft night so I can grab the jersey of our new face of the franchise, and I won't be the only one. Waiter, please top off my kool-aid!

Will the Vikings be getting compensatory picks for Cousins and Hunter next year? Or are they offset by some of the signings the Vikings made?

Curious what the Vikings say in their next presser.

Prediction: "This doesn't necessarily mean we're going to move up for a QB. We're happy with Sam. We had an opportunity to add a 1st rounder and so we made the deal. We feel those two picks give us the flexibility to do any number of things. If the right opportunity presents itself, we could make another move, but we made that deal knowing we would also be happy with the players we could get at 11 and 23." 

Write it down. :-)

@"comet52" said: I thought Monday's "We're Dying at the Kirk Cousins Funeral Procession" around here was kind of amusing.  Today's "Here Comes the Vikings Draft, Motherfuckers!" parade is even more fun.  =)

Kirk... Cousins... hmm... sounds familiar... who's that again?  B)

So we jump from 42 to 23 for next year's 2nd and a 6/7 swap.  Nice.  And if we can't move up from 11, #23 can be a hedge for Penix or Nix. 

@"RS Express" said: So we jump from 42 to 23 for next year's 2nd and a 6/7 swap.  Nice.  And if we can't move up from 11, #23 can be a hedge for Penix or Nix. 

Good thing I'm not on the Vikings payroll, eh?

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Havoc1649" said: I don’t think Nix makes it out of the top 10. It’s posible he’s the target and they are guaranteeing they can get him. I think the NFL likes him far more than pundits do. Tape doesn’t lie. Dropping a bomb in the bucket in stride at 60 yards at his pro day probably didn’t hurt him either. 

 Jayden Daniels is my number 1 and he could be on their board as well. This is the guy I think they are targeting and trying to get to 2. 

I'll personally be shocked if Nix is anywhere near the top 10. 

I honestly don't think he will go in the 1st round. 

I have seen a lot of Nix and he is one of my favorite QBs in this draft, there is no way he is not taken in the first half of the draft and possibly top third.  

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Havoc1649" said: I don’t think Nix makes it out of the top 10. It’s posible he’s the target and they are guaranteeing they can get him. I think the NFL likes him far more than pundits do. Tape doesn’t lie. Dropping a bomb in the bucket in stride at 60 yards at his pro day probably didn’t hurt him either. 

 Jayden Daniels is my number 1 and he could be on their board as well. This is the guy I think they are targeting and trying to get to 2. 

I'll personally be shocked if Nix is anywhere near the top 10. 

I honestly don't think he will go in the 1st round. 

@"supafreak84" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Welp, it's nice to have options and this helps us with that. Unfortunately for us this now becomes essentially a one player draft if we move up because we don't draft again until pick #108 in the 4th round. 

You don't get something for nothing. And so far anyway, we haven't given up a single future 1st, which was pretty much the assumption going in...

I do certainly like that aspect. It's a good thing we have cap money to spend next season because we've lacked picks, and probably will continue to lack picks, to replenish the roster. 

I think this has been all part of the plan all along. KAM likes signing young FAs with some upside....he'll continue to do that with much more cap space next year. If he pulls off this future QB thing, some people are going to have egg on their face about him. Because the FA period so far for them has been stellar.

And if he blows it, a lot of people will also have egg on their faces. I won't hold my breath, but certainly am hopeful like everyone else. 

As far as free agency goes, calling what we've done "stellar" so far is a stretch. Outside of Jones giving us a little more juice at running back, where are the upgrades? 

@"HappyViking" said:

@"comet52" said: I thought Monday's "We're Dying at the Kirk Cousins Funeral Procession" around here was kind of amusing.  Today's "Here Comes the Vikings Draft, Motherfuckers!" parade is even more fun.  =)

Kirk... Cousins... hmm... sounds familiar... who's that again?  B)

@"Vikergirl" said:

@"HappyViking" said:

@"comet52" said: I thought Monday's "We're Dying at the Kirk Cousins Funeral Procession" around here was kind of amusing.  Today's "Here Comes the Vikings Draft, Motherfuckers!" parade is even more fun.  =)

Kirk... Cousins... hmm... sounds familiar... who's that again?  B)

Feeling better?

@"MaroonBells" said: Curious what the Vikings say in their next presser.

Prediction: "This doesn't necessarily mean we're going to move up for a QB. We're happy with Sam. We had an opportunity to add a 1st rounder and so we made the deal. We feel those two picks give us the flexibility to do any number of things. If the right opportunity presents itself, we could make another move, but we made that deal knowing we would also be happy with the players we could get at 11 and 23." 

Write it down. :-)

Obviously, if we can go all the way up to 3, I could see them making a trade before the draft to lock it in.  If we start to get into that territory where the vikings or other teams need to see how the board plays out, then we have the picks ready to move up during the draft.  If the draft board falls wrong and trading up doesn't make sense per their big board, they can just stay pat and draft at 11 and 23 or move around or whatever.

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/NickOlsonNFL/status/1768638810663895192?t=f_pasZDh_SyFQdt3-SesZQ&s=19

@"medaille" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Curious what the Vikings say in their next presser.

Prediction: "This doesn't necessarily mean we're going to move up for a QB. We're happy with Sam. We had an opportunity to add a 1st rounder and so we made the deal. We feel those two picks give us the flexibility to do any number of things. If the right opportunity presents itself, we could make another move, but we made that deal knowing we would also be happy with the players we could get at 11 and 23." 

Write it down. :-)

If you asked me what I would predict them saying, that's exactly it, and I think it's exactly right and honest.

Obviously, if we can go all the way up to 3, I could see them making a trade before the draft to lock it in.  If we start to get into that territory where the vikings or other teams need to see how the board plays out, then we have the picks ready to move up during the draft.  If the draft board falls wrong and trading up doesn't make sense per their big board, they can just stay pat and draft at 11 and 23 or move around or whatever.

@"Havoc1649" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Welp, it's nice to have options and this helps us with that. Unfortunately for us this now becomes essentially a one player draft if we move up because we don't draft again until pick #108 in the 4th round. 

You don't get something for nothing. And so far anyway, we haven't given up a single future 1st, which was pretty much the assumption going in...

I do certainly like that aspect. It's a good thing we have cap money to spend next season because we've lacked picks, and probably will continue to lack picks, to replenish the roster. 

I think this has been all part of the plan all along. KAM likes signing young FAs with some upside....he'll continue to do that with much more cap space next year. If he pulls off this future QB thing, some people are going to have egg on their face about him. Because the FA period so far for them has been stellar.

And if he blows it, a lot of people will also have egg on their faces. I won't hold my breath, but certainly am hopeful like everyone else. 

As far as free agency goes, calling what we've done "stellar" so far is a stretch. Outside of Jones giving us a little more juice at running back, where are the upgrades? 

He signed two excellent edge rushers and a top notch Linebacker day 1 of free agency. 

I have no idea if this move gives them enough ammo to get the guy they want?

 Or is it enough ammo to outgun Giants and/or Denver if they start getting aggressive?

 It does imo put them at the table though as players. 

The Vikings are the only team that wants to move up with 2 first round picks this year 

Actually, I would be pissed/disappointed if we packaged two and moved up a few spots.  We're good at 11 and 23.  I feel SOOOO much better sitting there.
My position:  I am not a fan of May or JJ McCarthy.  Jayden Daniels will not drop to 3.  There is some real talent at Penix and Nix that will definitely available at 11, possibly at 23 (but I wouldn't bet past Denver, who IS DEFINITELY going to snarff one of them up).

I will say this...getting that second 1st round pick has ENERGIZED this board.  Very good!

@"Montana Tom" said: Actually, I would be pissed/disappointed if we packaged two and moved up a few spots.  We're good at 11 and 23.  I feel SOOOO much better sitting there. My position:  I am not a fan of May or JJ McCarthy.  Jayden Daniels will not drop to 3.  There is some real talent at Penix and Nix that will definitely available at 11, possibly at 23 (but I wouldn't bet past Denver, who IS DEFINITELY going to snarff one of them up).

I will say this...getting that second 1st round pick has ENERGIZED this board.  Very good!

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Havoc1649" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Welp, it's nice to have options and this helps us with that. Unfortunately for us this now becomes essentially a one player draft if we move up because we don't draft again until pick #108 in the 4th round. 

You don't get something for nothing. And so far anyway, we haven't given up a single future 1st, which was pretty much the assumption going in...

I do certainly like that aspect. It's a good thing we have cap money to spend next season because we've lacked picks, and probably will continue to lack picks, to replenish the roster. 

I think this has been all part of the plan all along. KAM likes signing young FAs with some upside....he'll continue to do that with much more cap space next year. If he pulls off this future QB thing, some people are going to have egg on their face about him. Because the FA period so far for them has been stellar.

And if he blows it, a lot of people will also have egg on their faces. I won't hold my breath, but certainly am hopeful like everyone else. 

As far as free agency goes, calling what we've done "stellar" so far is a stretch. Outside of Jones giving us a little more juice at running back, where are the upgrades? 

He signed two excellent edge rushers and a top notch Linebacker day 1 of free agency. 

I bet most Vikings fans didn't even know who Jonathan Greenard was before we signed him. Be honest. Anybody? I also don't know that any of them are upgrades to the players they were signed to replace. All things being equal I'd take Hunter/Wonnum/Hicks over Greenard/Van Ginkel/Cashman

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Havoc1649" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Welp, it's nice to have options and this helps us with that. Unfortunately for us this now becomes essentially a one player draft if we move up because we don't draft again until pick #108 in the 4th round. 

You don't get something for nothing. And so far anyway, we haven't given up a single future 1st, which was pretty much the assumption going in...

I do certainly like that aspect. It's a good thing we have cap money to spend next season because we've lacked picks, and probably will continue to lack picks, to replenish the roster. 

I think this has been all part of the plan all along. KAM likes signing young FAs with some upside....he'll continue to do that with much more cap space next year. If he pulls off this future QB thing, some people are going to have egg on their face about him. Because the FA period so far for them has been stellar.

And if he blows it, a lot of people will also have egg on their faces. I won't hold my breath, but certainly am hopeful like everyone else. 

As far as free agency goes, calling what we've done "stellar" so far is a stretch. Outside of Jones giving us a little more juice at running back, where are the upgrades? 

He signed two excellent edge rushers and a top notch Linebacker day 1 of free agency. 

I bet most Vikings fans didn't even know who Jonathan Greenard was before we signed him. Be honest. Anybody? I also don't know that any of them are upgrades to the players they were signed to replace. All things being equal I'd take Hunter/Wonnum/Hicks over Greenard/Van Ginkel/Cashman