Hunter

@"supafreak84" said: Signed in Houston. Two year deal 

Danielle Hunter grew up outside Houston. Now, after nine seasons in Minnesota, he joins his hometown team on a two-year, $49 million deal that includes $48M guaranteed. Max $51M with incentives. https://t.co/wrSqyqkVx0

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 12, 2024

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1767680276279230548?t=ciR2iA87tAQiqZO47Xht1w&s=19

Spotrac had his market value at 3 years 60 million so he did well for himself.  

( I don't use twitter so I have to cut and paste to read :)

@"VikingOracle" said:

@"Greylock" said: You have to wonder do the Viking coaches and Kwesi know something about Hunter and that's the reason they didn't attempt to sigh him?  Pretty odd that a guy almost everybody thought was a must resign is still available.

Two thoughts to this -- either (a) Vikings really messed up by not trading him this past season or (b) Vikings couldn't trade him last season because of whatever is non-public.

y@"minny65" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1767680276279230548?t=ciR2iA87tAQiqZO47Xht1w&s=19

Danielle Hunter grew up outside Houston. Now, after nine seasons in Minnesota, he joins his hometown team on a two-year, $49 million deal that includes $48M guaranteed. Max $51M with incentives.

Spotrac had his market value at 3 years 60 million so he did well for himself.  

( I don't use twitter so I have to cut and paste to read :)

@"supafreak84" said: We essentially swapped Greenard for Hunter, who goes back to playing in a 4-3 under Demeco Ryan's that suits his strengths better. If he's healthy he'll absolutely be one of the league leaders in sacks opposite Will Anderson. I hate losing Hunter, hate losing him for nothing even more..

@"HappyViking" said:

@"1VikesFan" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Signed in Houston. Two year deal 

Could be worth up to 51 million for the two years 

So Houston wouldn't pay Greenard but was willing to shell out big bucks for Hunter.  The Vikes, on the other hand, wouldn't pay Hunter, but would shell out the big $$s for Greenard.  Interesting...

@"VikingOracle" said:

@"Greylock" said: You have to wonder do the Viking coaches and Kwesi know something about Hunter and that's the reason they didn't attempt to sigh him?  Pretty odd that a guy almost everybody thought was a must resign is still available.

Two thoughts to this -- either (a) Vikings really messed up by not trading him this past season or (b) Vikings couldn't trade him last season because of whatever is non-public.

Additional thought;  Hunter is the anti-Cousins.  While Cousins has repeatedly maximized his compensation, Hunter has repeatedly done bad deals or set himself up in a position to be underpaid.  His agent should have known already where he was going to sign.

Additional thought:  His medicals may be taking time or frightening off teams.

@"bigbone62" said:

@"HappyViking" said:

@"1VikesFan" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Signed in Houston. Two year deal 

Could be worth up to 51 million for the two years 

So Houston wouldn't pay Greenard but was willing to shell out big bucks for Hunter.  The Vikes, on the other hand, wouldn't pay Hunter, but would shell out the big $$s for Greenard.  Interesting...

I understand that you're going to double down on being "GrumpyViking" about anything and everything. But all mental gymnastics aside is this really your take? You don't think that perhaps they didn't re-sign Greenard because they felt comfortable in that they were signing the top d-end in free agency?  

I'm sort of floored that people really felt Hunter ever had any intention of re-signing short of a historic deal. Two separate regimes fucked around with not giving a serious effort to re-up. Repeatedly floated that the team was open for a trade and asked for restructures. I thought it was obvious if he wasn't extended last season he wasn't coming back.

Between returning home to Texas and Houston being and obvious up and coming young team this was a no brainier for him. 

@"bigbone62" said:

@"HappyViking" said:

@"1VikesFan" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Signed in Houston. Two year deal 

Could be worth up to 51 million for the two years 

So Houston wouldn't pay Greenard but was willing to shell out big bucks for Hunter.  The Vikes, on the other hand, wouldn't pay Hunter, but would shell out the big $$s for Greenard.  Interesting...

I understand that you're going to double down on being "GrumpyViking" about anything and everything. But all mental gymnastics aside is this really your take? You don't think that perhaps they didn't re-sign Greenard because they felt comfortable in that they were signing the top d-end in free agency?  

I'm sort of floored that people really felt Hunter ever had any intention of re-signing short of a historic deal. Two separate regimes fucked around with not giving a serious effort to re-up. Repeatedly floated that the team was open for a trade and asked for restructures. I thought it was obvious if he wasn't extended last season he wasn't coming back.

Between returning home to Texas and Houston being and obvious up and coming young team this was a no brainier for him. 

@"medaille" said:

@"VikingOracle" said:

@"Greylock" said: You have to wonder do the Viking coaches and Kwesi know something about Hunter and that's the reason they didn't attempt to sigh him?  Pretty odd that a guy almost everybody thought was a must resign is still available.

Two thoughts to this -- either (a) Vikings really messed up by not trading him this past season or (b) Vikings couldn't trade him last season because of whatever is non-public.

Additional thought;  Hunter is the anti-Cousins.  While Cousins has repeatedly maximized his compensation, Hunter has repeatedly done bad deals or set himself up in a position to be underpaid.  His agent should have known already where he was going to sign.

Additional thought:  His medicals may be taking time or frightening off teams.

When we signed him to his last extension, he got a no trade clause. 

@"VikingOracle" said:

@"medaille" said:

@"VikingOracle" said:

@"Greylock" said: You have to wonder do the Viking coaches and Kwesi know something about Hunter and that's the reason they didn't attempt to sigh him?  Pretty odd that a guy almost everybody thought was a must resign is still available.

Two thoughts to this -- either (a) Vikings really messed up by not trading him this past season or (b) Vikings couldn't trade him last season because of whatever is non-public.

Additional thought;  Hunter is the anti-Cousins.  While Cousins has repeatedly maximized his compensation, Hunter has repeatedly done bad deals or set himself up in a position to be underpaid.  His agent should have known already where he was going to sign.

Additional thought:  His medicals may be taking time or frightening off teams.

When we signed him to his last extension, he got a no trade clause. 

You sure?  It would explain a lot but I couldn't find that.  I knew he couldn't be tagged but I think he could be traded.

Where I looked: 

https://www.nfl.com/news/vikings-danielle-hunter-agree-to-terms-on-new-one-year-deal-worth-up-to-20-milli#:~:text=The%20deal%20includes%20%2417%20million,the%20three%2Dtime%20Pro%20Bowler.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10095523-vikings-rumors-almost-no-chance-of-danielle-hunter-trade-after-kirk-cousins-injury

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/report-vikings-not-exploring-trade-danielle-hunter-despite-interest

I really liked Hunter.....but I never found myself loving him. Maybe I'm underrating him, but he disappears at times. For a super athletic guy it seemed a decent part of his sacks came from coverage. Maybe that's just perception and not reality. 

@"StickyBun" said: I really liked Hunter.....but I never found myself loving him. Maybe I'm underrating him, but he disappears at times. For a super athletic guy it seemed a decent part of his sacks came from coverage. Maybe that's just perception and not reality.