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In what world does this represent anything positive for U.S. interests?

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#1 · Feb 9, 5:48 PM
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Tucker has been a putin apologist for a long time, apparently both mirroring the orange-boi need to flatter the murderous assclown at every turn along with keeping his toe in the door for "interviews" (puff pieces for murderous oligarchs) that others can't get.
He's still an infamous liar, "interviewing" a mass-murdering career liar, after a career on a network infamously busted and hugely fined for lying.

Just sayin'.

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Here's a headline from Tass today....

Putin's interview with Carlson trending on X with over 102 million views

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I've watched chunks of it, and it's exactly what I expected: cherry-picking, disinformation, and everything is the west's fault.

Tucker softballed putin like Jon Stewart used to softball Hillary.

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why is this a concern now?  It seems to me that Putin has been interviewed by barbara walters, george stephanopoulos, and on 60 minutes.   He's never been a good guy so why is it an issue now when Carlson does it?

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It different now because it's a different context.  Putin has engaged in a war and the political dynamic of support in our country.  He's as involved in disrupting our systems now as he has been.  The interviews you refer to were in 2014, 2015, 2017, time marches on, hopefully we learned something.   

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@"BigAl99" said: It different now because it's a different context.  Putin has engaged in a war and the political dynamic of support in our country.  He's as involved in disrupting our systems now as he has been.  The interviews you refer to were in 2014, 2015, 2017, time marches on, hopefully we learned something.   
I think the difference is he is the dog that got off the leash,  when he was a tool for the other party he was not a threat and the cup cake interviews were designed to engrain that "not a threat" mentality into the populous ( especially when the right people were profiting from him )  but like all things evil,  it grew beyond control and now he's a problem for them and those that profit from the new dogs.  

its a problem now because some people believe the lies they are told,  in this case its that tucker is bad and anything he does is bad,  not the lies he attempts to expose.  ( and no,  I am not a big listener of his,  but I trust those that echo his messages more than I do those that want to kill the messenger. )

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@"JimmyinSD" said: why is this a concern now?  It seems to me that Putin has been interviewed by barbara walters, george stephanopoulos, and on 60 minutes.   He's never been a good guy so why is it an issue now when Carlson does it?
If I had to guess, it's because those interviews weren't during an invasion that's already 6 digits deep in bodies and trying to draw us, China, and all of Europe into it.
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@"Zanary" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: why is this a concern now?  It seems to me that Putin has been interviewed by barbara walters, george stephanopoulos, and on 60 minutes.   He's never been a good guy so why is it an issue now when Carlson does it?
If I had to guess, it's because those interviews weren't during an invasion that's already 6 digits deep in bodies and trying to draw us, China, and all of Europe into it.
not buying it,  there have been all kinds of interviews done with foreign leaders that have massive body counts that didnt trigger peoples sensitivities.  Didnt 60 minutes have Saddam Hussein on in the early 2000s?  I am sure there have been more over the years.  this is a about tucker bad.
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@"Zanary" said: I've watched chunks of it, and it's exactly what I expected: cherry-picking, disinformation, and everything is the west's fault.

Tucker softballed putin like Jon Stewart used to softball Hillary.


see.... if it was about outrage over interviews of people with a high body count..... there would be outrage over Hillary interviews.

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@"BigAl99" said: It different now because it's a different context.  Putin has engaged in a war and the political dynamic of support in our country.  He's as involved in disrupting our systems now as he has been.  The interviews you refer to were in 2014, 2015, 2017, time marches on, hopefully we learned something.   
Those interviews were from 2014 and 2015 so way different?  Huh?  Russia invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014 so pretty much identical  I'm not sure where the angst comes from with this interview.  Why did Carlson do the interview?  The same reason the others did similar interviews (Hussein, Gaddafi)...for ratings.  The Left has decided anything they disagree with should be deplatformed.  From complaining to CNN about interviewing Trump, to leaning on socials to block certain viewpoints, to blocking Conservative speakers on campuses...it's all harmful to the Country.  When people stop exchanging ideas...bad things happen.  Look at the hyperpoliticized World we find ourselves in.  Putin has always been a master propagandist.  You think he swayed much public opinion?  He didn't...any more that Hussein swayed opinion on the eve of the Iraqi War or Gaddafi during their conflict or the interviews with Assad, etc.  

P.S. - I was hoping Putin would look sicker and less in control....dude can't die fast enough.

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@"badgervike" said:
@"BigAl99" said: It different now because it's a different context.  Putin has engaged in a war and the political dynamic of support in our country.  He's as involved in disrupting our systems now as he has been.  The interviews you refer to were in 2014, 2015, 2017, time marches on, hopefully we learned something.   
Those interviews were from 2014 and 2015 so way different?  Huh?  Russia invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014 so pretty much identical  I'm not sure where the angst comes from with this interview.  Why did Carlson do the interview?  The same reason the others did similar interviews (Hussein, Gaddafi)...for ratings.  The Left has decided anything they disagree with should be deplatformed.  From complaining to CNN about interviewing Trump, to leaning on socials to block certain viewpoints, to blocking Conservative speakers on campuses...it's all harmful to the Country.  When people stop exchanging ideas...bad things happen.  Look at the hyperpoliticized World we find ourselves in.  Putin has always been a master propagandist.  You think he swayed much public opinion?  He didn't...any more that Hussein swayed opinion on the eve of the Iraqi War or Gaddafi during their conflict or the interviews with Assad, etc.  

P.S. - I was hoping Putin would look sicker and less in control....dude can't die fast enough.



"Pretty Much Identical?"

Did the Crimean annexation take a fraction of the time, or lives lost, or cause anything like the level of ripples this has done?

Seriously, is this a cry for help, or something? That statement might be the biggest example of easily-disproven BS not involving "gEnoCide"!

This situation is much heavier, has new members joining NATO, has us authorizing F-16s and FA-18s along with Bradleys and M-1s...they're not even remotely comparable.

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@"badgervike" said:
@"BigAl99" said: It different now because it's a different context.  Putin has engaged in a war and the political dynamic of support in our country.  He's as involved in disrupting our systems now as he has been.  The interviews you refer to were in 2014, 2015, 2017, time marches on, hopefully we learned something.   
Those interviews were from 2014 and 2015 so way different?  Huh?  Russia invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014 so pretty much identical  I'm not sure where the angst comes from with this interview.  Why did Carlson do the interview?  The same reason the others did similar interviews (Hussein, Gaddafi)...for ratings.  The Left has decided anything they disagree with should be deplatformed.  From complaining to CNN about interviewing Trump, to leaning on socials to block certain viewpoints, to blocking Conservative speakers on campuses...it's all harmful to the Country.  When people stop exchanging ideas...bad things happen.  Look at the hyperpoliticized World we find ourselves in.  Putin has always been a master propagandist.  You think he swayed much public opinion?  He didn't...any more that Hussein swayed opinion on the eve of the Iraqi War or Gaddafi during their conflict or the interviews with Assad, etc.  

P.S. - I was hoping Putin would look sicker and less in control....dude can't die fast enough.


First off those were done by Journalists, not someone who's employer, Fox, stated in court "given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism" and the Judge agreed stating, "Whether the Court frames Mr. Carlson's statements as 'exaggeration,'
'non-literal commentary,' or simply bloviating for his audience, the
conclusion remains the same — the statements are not actionable."  Tucker is many things but a journalist he is not, he just grifting for relevancy in the Right Wing spin-o-sphere.  Trending on X is his KPI, pun intended, to Tucker Truth don't matter. 
As far as the rest of the monolithic left banter go to that happy place and "say there are good people on both sides".

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@"Zanary" said:
@"badgervike" said:
@"BigAl99" said: It different now because it's a different context.  Putin has engaged in a war and the political dynamic of support in our country.  He's as involved in disrupting our systems now as he has been.  The interviews you refer to were in 2014, 2015, 2017, time marches on, hopefully we learned something.   
Those interviews were from 2014 and 2015 so way different?  Huh?  Russia invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014 so pretty much identical  I'm not sure where the angst comes from with this interview.  Why did Carlson do the interview?  The same reason the others did similar interviews (Hussein, Gaddafi)...for ratings.  The Left has decided anything they disagree with should be deplatformed.  From complaining to CNN about interviewing Trump, to leaning on socials to block certain viewpoints, to blocking Conservative speakers on campuses...it's all harmful to the Country.  When people stop exchanging ideas...bad things happen.  Look at the hyperpoliticized World we find ourselves in.  Putin has always been a master propagandist.  You think he swayed much public opinion?  He didn't...any more that Hussein swayed opinion on the eve of the Iraqi War or Gaddafi during their conflict or the interviews with Assad, etc.  

P.S. - I was hoping Putin would look sicker and less in control....dude can't die fast enough.



"Pretty Much Identical?"

Did the Crimean annexation take a fraction of the time, or lives lost, or cause anything like the level of ripples this has done?

Seriously, is this a cry for help, or something? That statement might be the biggest example of easily-disproven BS not involving "gEnoCide"!

This situation is much heavier, has new members joining NATO, has us authorizing F-16s and FA-18s along with Bradleys and M-1s...they're not even remotely comparable.



the difference is they fought back this time,  had they fought back last time there would have been more death and military involvement,  and of course the 10% for the big guy,  not to mention they thought they still had that dog on their leash.

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@"Zanary" said:
@"badgervike" said:
@"BigAl99" said: It different now because it's a different context.  Putin has engaged in a war and the political dynamic of support in our country.  He's as involved in disrupting our systems now as he has been.  The interviews you refer to were in 2014, 2015, 2017, time marches on, hopefully we learned something.   
Those interviews were from 2014 and 2015 so way different?  Huh?  Russia invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014 so pretty much identical  I'm not sure where the angst comes from with this interview.  Why did Carlson do the interview?  The same reason the others did similar interviews (Hussein, Gaddafi)...for ratings.  The Left has decided anything they disagree with should be deplatformed.  From complaining to CNN about interviewing Trump, to leaning on socials to block certain viewpoints, to blocking Conservative speakers on campuses...it's all harmful to the Country.  When people stop exchanging ideas...bad things happen.  Look at the hyperpoliticized World we find ourselves in.  Putin has always been a master propagandist.  You think he swayed much public opinion?  He didn't...any more that Hussein swayed opinion on the eve of the Iraqi War or Gaddafi during their conflict or the interviews with Assad, etc.  

P.S. - I was hoping Putin would look sicker and less in control....dude can't die fast enough.



"Pretty Much Identical?"

Did the Crimean annexation take a fraction of the time, or lives lost, or cause anything like the level of ripples this has done?

Seriously, is this a cry for help, or something? That statement might be the biggest example of easily-disproven BS not involving "gEnoCide"!

This situation is much heavier, has new members joining NATO, has us authorizing F-16s and FA-18s along with Bradleys and M-1s...they're not even remotely comparable.



And if Ukraine rolled over and played dead and gave up the 4 recently "annexed" regions like they did in the Crimea conflict...the war would be over as well..with no tanks and F16's and minimal loss of life.  But it's the death of 100 cuts and Ukraine decided to fight back this time.  That's all I was saying...  I know you have people you care about there (as do I) so it's a sensitive subject for you. Certainly from a US perspective, I would view Rather and Wallace interviewing Hussein as US troops were amassing on Iraq's border a more significant question of journalistic judgement.

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@"BigAl99" said:
@"badgervike" said:
@"BigAl99" said: It different now because it's a different context.  Putin has engaged in a war and the political dynamic of support in our country.  He's as involved in disrupting our systems now as he has been.  The interviews you refer to were in 2014, 2015, 2017, time marches on, hopefully we learned something.   
Those interviews were from 2014 and 2015 so way different?  Huh?  Russia invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014 so pretty much identical  I'm not sure where the angst comes from with this interview.  Why did Carlson do the interview?  The same reason the others did similar interviews (Hussein, Gaddafi)...for ratings.  The Left has decided anything they disagree with should be deplatformed.  From complaining to CNN about interviewing Trump, to leaning on socials to block certain viewpoints, to blocking Conservative speakers on campuses...it's all harmful to the Country.  When people stop exchanging ideas...bad things happen.  Look at the hyperpoliticized World we find ourselves in.  Putin has always been a master propagandist.  You think he swayed much public opinion?  He didn't...any more that Hussein swayed opinion on the eve of the Iraqi War or Gaddafi during their conflict or the interviews with Assad, etc.  

P.S. - I was hoping Putin would look sicker and less in control....dude can't die fast enough.


First off those were done by Journalists, not someone who's employer, Fox, stated in court "given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism" and the Judge agreed stating, "Whether the Court frames Mr. Carlson's statements as 'exaggeration,'
'non-literal commentary,' or simply bloviating for his audience, the
conclusion remains the same — the statements are not actionable."  Tucker is many things but a journalist he is not, he just grifting for relevancy in the Right Wing spin-o-sphere.  Trending on X is his KPI, pun intended, to Tucker Truth don't matter. 
As far as the rest of the monolithic left banter go to that happy place and "say there are good people on both sides".



If you agree with their bent,  they are "journalists "  if not they are grifters,  sounds completely rational to me,  but I'm sure you followed the facts and the science to come to your conclusions so....sleep well.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"BigAl99" said:
@"badgervike" said:
@"BigAl99" said: It different now because it's a different context.  Putin has engaged in a war and the political dynamic of support in our country.  He's as involved in disrupting our systems now as he has been.  The interviews you refer to were in 2014, 2015, 2017, time marches on, hopefully we learned something.   
Those interviews were from 2014 and 2015 so way different?  Huh?  Russia invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014 so pretty much identical  I'm not sure where the angst comes from with this interview.  Why did Carlson do the interview?  The same reason the others did similar interviews (Hussein, Gaddafi)...for ratings.  The Left has decided anything they disagree with should be deplatformed.  From complaining to CNN about interviewing Trump, to leaning on socials to block certain viewpoints, to blocking Conservative speakers on campuses...it's all harmful to the Country.  When people stop exchanging ideas...bad things happen.  Look at the hyperpoliticized World we find ourselves in.  Putin has always been a master propagandist.  You think he swayed much public opinion?  He didn't...any more that Hussein swayed opinion on the eve of the Iraqi War or Gaddafi during their conflict or the interviews with Assad, etc.  

P.S. - I was hoping Putin would look sicker and less in control....dude can't die fast enough.


First off those were done by Journalists, not someone who's employer, Fox, stated in court "given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism" and the Judge agreed stating, "Whether the Court frames Mr. Carlson's statements as 'exaggeration,'
'non-literal commentary,' or simply bloviating for his audience, the
conclusion remains the same — the statements are not actionable."  Tucker is many things but a journalist he is not, he just grifting for relevancy in the Right Wing spin-o-sphere.  Trending on X is his KPI, pun intended, to Tucker Truth don't matter. 
As far as the rest of the monolithic left banter go to that happy place and "say there are good people on both sides".



If you agree with their bent,  they are "journalists "  if not they are grifters,  sounds completely rational to me,  but I'm sure you followed the facts and the science to come to your conclusions so....sleep well.


As much as I utterly question most of our media, Carlson has smeared himself in s**t as a full-on liar for Trumplestilskin, and for Faux Nooz, and as a putin apologist...all consistently. He is nothing like a journalist, he's the lowest level of sensationalist assclown anywhere near "news". Seriously, he's a one-lying-imbecile answer to "The View".

Given that he's been caught and discredited as often as he has, he's another that makes me completely baffled as to why he has a single fan, anywhere.

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@"Zanary" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"BigAl99" said:
@"badgervike" said:
@"BigAl99" said: It different now because it's a different context.  Putin has engaged in a war and the political dynamic of support in our country.  He's as involved in disrupting our systems now as he has been.  The interviews you refer to were in 2014, 2015, 2017, time marches on, hopefully we learned something.   
Those interviews were from 2014 and 2015 so way different?  Huh?  Russia invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014 so pretty much identical  I'm not sure where the angst comes from with this interview.  Why did Carlson do the interview?  The same reason the others did similar interviews (Hussein, Gaddafi)...for ratings.  The Left has decided anything they disagree with should be deplatformed.  From complaining to CNN about interviewing Trump, to leaning on socials to block certain viewpoints, to blocking Conservative speakers on campuses...it's all harmful to the Country.  When people stop exchanging ideas...bad things happen.  Look at the hyperpoliticized World we find ourselves in.  Putin has always been a master propagandist.  You think he swayed much public opinion?  He didn't...any more that Hussein swayed opinion on the eve of the Iraqi War or Gaddafi during their conflict or the interviews with Assad, etc.  

P.S. - I was hoping Putin would look sicker and less in control....dude can't die fast enough.


First off those were done by Journalists, not someone who's employer, Fox, stated in court "given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism" and the Judge agreed stating, "Whether the Court frames Mr. Carlson's statements as 'exaggeration,'
'non-literal commentary,' or simply bloviating for his audience, the
conclusion remains the same — the statements are not actionable."  Tucker is many things but a journalist he is not, he just grifting for relevancy in the Right Wing spin-o-sphere.  Trending on X is his KPI, pun intended, to Tucker Truth don't matter. 
As far as the rest of the monolithic left banter go to that happy place and "say there are good people on both sides".



If you agree with their bent,  they are "journalists "  if not they are grifters,  sounds completely rational to me,  but I'm sure you followed the facts and the science to come to your conclusions so....sleep well.


As much as I utterly question most of our media, Carlson has smeared himself in s**t as a full-on liar for Trumplestilskin, and for Faux Nooz, and as a putin apologist...all consistently. He is nothing like a journalist, he's the lowest level of sensationalist assclown anywhere near "news". Seriously, he's a one-lying-imbecile answer to "The View".

Given that he's been caught and discredited as often as he has, he's another that makes me completely baffled as to why he has a single fan, anywhere.



This. Lets please not act like Tucker is some kind of real journalist.....or even a real person. He's a gross, contrived caricature in the mold of a Skip Bayless. 

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Why is everyone getting their panties in a twist over this?  Ive watched roughly 0 minutes of Tucker Carlson in my life so its not like he’s my go to guy.  

But what difference does it make?  Don’t watch the interview if you don’t want to. It’s words.  Not bombs. 

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@"AGRforever" said: Why is everyone getting their panties in a twist over this?  Ive watched roughly 0 minutes of Tucker Carlson in my life so its not like he’s my go to guy.  

But what difference does it make?  Don’t watch the interview if you don’t want to. It’s words.  Not bombs. 


Is this your first day online?  :p

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@"AGRforever" said: Why is everyone getting their panties in a twist over this?  Ive watched roughly 0 minutes of Tucker Carlson in my life so its not like he’s my go to guy.  

But what difference does it make?  Don’t watch the interview if you don’t want to. It’s words.  Not bombs. 


They've been told to be incensed by it.  We have all been being programmed and it's getting easier and easier for those pushing the buttons to get their desired responses.

I just read this week that Meta is going to be using AI across all its platforms to read ans analyze all of our communications both current and past,  including text and email,  I have my doubts this us simply for market research and a better user experience.  We are all going ro be defeated without anybody ever having to have fired a bullet.

Look at places like Australia,  think about the Australian people and their pride and strength as well as free spirited  individualism they exuded in the past, ( very American like in that sense) looking at the police state that country has become in just a few short years and the drones it's cresting is very frightening to me as I see it happening here in the US. 

Look at the farmers and ranchers rising up around the world in protest over the new order,  they are one group that is least likely to be plugged into by social media controls and are still very rooted in reality,  they don't worry about politicial affiliation,  they are seeing crazy bad shit coming for them and their way of life and are speaking out all over the world.   We all need to try and peel off the mind molding media and find our own truths,  even if it means using sources we are unfamiliar or are uncomfortable with, but then getting back to applying a strong bullshit meter to what we receive.

If the last decade or so has taught us anything it's to trust no one and do your own homework as best as we can.

I pray for us all,  as things are getting scarier by the second all around us.

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