J. Harbough sends Thank You letter

@"purplefaithful" said: I think you have to draft a rook qbotf with the intent he is going to sit year 1. 

An ideal scenario imo is you draft that kid this year, you sign KC to be on roster 2 years and take advantage of having a lot of firepower and pedigree in JJ/Addison/TJH...

And they will have enough $ to fill some holes in FA and draft for D too. 

If this roster was  only  missing  a veteran QB to set it off, it'd be a no-brainer. DO it.

 I don't see it.

No cap and bad drafts are taking their toll.

@"Kentis" said: Harbaugh stated that JJ is the best QB Michigan has ever had, doubt the great Jim Harbaugh could be wrong…  ;) B)  

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Kentis" said: Harbaugh stated that JJ is the best QB Michigan has ever had, doubt the great Jim Harbaugh could be wrong…  ;) B)  

Its a good point. Listening to any college football coach talk about his own players that he loves is pure folly. Or former players like Jared Allen who would love to see Browning be the QB of the Vikings, lol.

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Kentis" said: Harbaugh stated that JJ is the best QB Michigan has ever had, doubt the great Jim Harbaugh could be wrong…  ;) B)  

Its a good point. Listening to any college football coach talk about his own players that he loves is pure folly. Or former players like Jared Allen who would love to see Browning be the QB of the Vikings, lol.

@"Mattyman" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: I think you have to draft a rook qbotf with the intent he is going to sit year 1. 

An ideal scenario imo is you draft that kid this year, you sign KC to be on roster 2 years and take advantage of having a lot of firepower and pedigree in JJ/Addison/TJH...

And they will have enough $ to fill some holes in FA and draft for D too. 

If this roster was  only  missing  a veteran QB to set it off, it'd be a no-brainer. DO it.

 I don't see it.

No cap and bad drafts are taking their toll.

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Kentis" said: Harbaugh stated that JJ is the best QB Michigan has ever had, doubt the great Jim Harbaugh could be wrong…  ;) B)  

Its a good point. Listening to any college football coach talk about his own players that he loves is pure folly. Or former players like Jared Allen who would love to see Browning be the QB of the Vikings, lol.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Kentis" said: Harbaugh stated that JJ is the best QB Michigan has ever had, doubt the great Jim Harbaugh could be wrong…  ;) B)  

Its a good point. Listening to any college football coach talk about his own players that he loves is pure folly. Or former players like Jared Allen who would love to see Browning be the QB of the Vikings, lol.

Well he certainly looked better down the stretch than what we marched out there.

@"pattersaur" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Kentis" said: Harbaugh stated that JJ is the best QB Michigan has ever had, doubt the great Jim Harbaugh could be wrong…  ;) B)  

Its a good point. Listening to any college football coach talk about his own players that he loves is pure folly. Or former players like Jared Allen who would love to see Browning be the QB of the Vikings, lol.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Kentis" said: Harbaugh stated that JJ is the best QB Michigan has ever had, doubt the great Jim Harbaugh could be wrong…  ;) B)  

Its a good point. Listening to any college football coach talk about his own players that he loves is pure folly. Or former players like Jared Allen who would love to see Browning be the QB of the Vikings, lol.

Well he certainly looked better down the stretch than what we marched out there.

I dont know if I would declare if I was JJM?

The kid looks raw and will need time with film and in the weight room b4 he is ready to play Sundays.

@"StickyBun" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Kentis" said: Harbaugh stated that JJ is the best QB Michigan has ever had, doubt the great Jim Harbaugh could be wrong…  ;) B)  

Its a good point. Listening to any college football coach talk about his own players that he loves is pure folly. Or former players like Jared Allen who would love to see Browning be the QB of the Vikings, lol.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Kentis" said: Harbaugh stated that JJ is the best QB Michigan has ever had, doubt the great Jim Harbaugh could be wrong…  ;) B)  

Its a good point. Listening to any college football coach talk about his own players that he loves is pure folly. Or former players like Jared Allen who would love to see Browning be the QB of the Vikings, lol.

Well he certainly looked better down the stretch than what we marched out there.

I dont know if I would declare if I was JJM?

The kid looks raw and will need time with film and in the weight room b4 he is ready to play Sundays.

Harbaugh bolting will probably go a long ways towards his decision. Heck, Vegas picks at 11 and needs a QB. If JJ has a good feeling that 11 is his draft floor, I think he’ll declare for sure as opposed to trying to learn a new offense next year at UM. 

@"MaroonBells" said: Yeah, a great college coach always makes for a great pro coach. 

Maybe take a below average team and turn them into a monster to compete in NFCCG 2 out of 3 years, with a Super Bowl in between.

Harbaugh was too scary for the Wilfs to handle.  

They wanted to be young and cool so they hired a handsome, young, offensive minded (yet never called the plays) coach from a team that was built unlike any other team ever.  They wanted approachable and nice, who could sell tickets

They didn't want a guy who was perceived as being tough at all.

Dumbest decision they have made as owners and one of the dumbest in franchise history

That's what it came down to.

@"Skodin" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Yeah, a great college coach always makes for a great pro coach. 

I know, I can only imagine what he would do in the NFL . . 

Maybe take a below average team and turn them into a monster to compete in NFCCG 2 out of 3 years, with a Super Bowl in between.

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"bigbone62" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said:

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@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"supafreak84" said: I thought it was a mistake not hiring him. Would anybody trade KOC for him now?

You can probably thank Jim Stapleton for that set of circumstances.

Jim Stapleton is not and has never been a minority owner of the Vikings. That has been debunked. Stapleton was part of Reggie Fowlers team that bid on the Vikings. He would have been a member on the board of directors had the Reggie deal not fell through. He did then assist the Wilfs but was never given any offical role after they took ownership.  

Did I say insinuate anything about Stapleton's official position on the org. chart?

Lol then what does a guy who only briefly, and nearly 20 years ago, have to do with Harbaugh not being hired in MN two seasons ago? 

Who are you even talking about?

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Skodin" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Yeah, a great college coach always makes for a great pro coach. 

I know, I can only imagine what he would do in the NFL . . 

Maybe take a below average team and turn them into a monster to compete in NFCCG 2 out of 3 years, with a Super Bowl in between.

Makes ya wonder why they pushed him out in San Francisco. He said it himself. It wasn't his decision. Why? Why would the world's best-ever coach get pushed out? 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Skodin" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Yeah, a great college coach always makes for a great pro coach. 

I know, I can only imagine what he would do in the NFL . . 

Maybe take a below average team and turn them into a monster to compete in NFCCG 2 out of 3 years, with a Super Bowl in between.

Makes ya wonder why they pushed him out in San Francisco. He said it himself. It wasn't his decision. Why? Why would the world's best-ever coach get pushed out? 
Look, I’m not going to deny that Harbaugh is a good coach. I think he is a good coach. I thought he’d be an exciting, albeit risky, hire for the Vikings two seasons ago. But let’s not pretend he's without flaws, or that Minnesota’s hiring of KOC over Harbaugh was some kind of epic blunder. 

Everyone loves the shiny object fresh off a championship. Whoever wins the Super Bowl becomes THE model for roster construction....until it changes the next year...and again the next. And right now, Harbaugh, fresh from a Natty, is the shiny object who could’ve delivered us from all evil, if only we had given him a chance. 

Nonsense. Let’s not forget that Harbaugh was fired in San Francisco and very nearly fired at Michigan in 2020. It took him 9 years to win a title, going 1-6 in bowl games until this year. 

@"Skodin" said: Harbaugh was too scary for the Wilfs to handle.  

They wanted to be young and cool so they hired a handsome, young, offensive minded (yet never called the plays) coach from a team that was built unlike any other team ever.  They wanted approachable and nice, who could sell tickets

They didn't want a guy who was perceived as being tough at all.

Dumbest decision they have made as owners and one of the dumbest in franchise history

That's what it came down to.

@"supafreak84" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Skodin" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Yeah, a great college coach always makes for a great pro coach. 

I know, I can only imagine what he would do in the NFL . . 

Maybe take a below average team and turn them into a monster to compete in NFCCG 2 out of 3 years, with a Super Bowl in between.

Makes ya wonder why they pushed him out in San Francisco. He said it himself. It wasn't his decision. Why? Why would the world's best-ever coach get pushed out? 

The 49ers were 6-10 the year before they hired Harbaugh. Harbaugh was 44-19 in San Francisco with two division titles and a Super Bowl appearance. Totally transformed that franchise, and did it quickly. He was pushed out because of a clash with then GM Trent Baalke and whispers of him jumping ship to Michigan every year. I think it was a mutual parting of ways but reads as he "was fired." As we know, when the GM and head coach don't see eye to eye and aren't on speaking terms...it's a problem 

@"Greylock" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Skodin" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Yeah, a great college coach always makes for a great pro coach. 

I know, I can only imagine what he would do in the NFL . . 

Maybe take a below average team and turn them into a monster to compete in NFCCG 2 out of 3 years, with a Super Bowl in between.

Makes ya wonder why they pushed him out in San Francisco. He said it himself. It wasn't his decision. Why? Why would the world's best-ever coach get pushed out? 
Look, I’m not going to deny that Harbaugh is a good coach. I think he is a good coach. I thought he’d be an exciting, albeit risky, hire for the Vikings two seasons ago. But let’s not pretend he's without flaws, or that Minnesota’s hiring of KOC over Harbaugh was some kind of epic blunder. 

Everyone loves the shiny object fresh off a championship. Whoever wins the Super Bowl becomes THE model for roster construction....until it changes the next year...and again the next. And right now, Harbaugh, fresh from a Natty, is the shiny object who could’ve delivered us from all evil, if only we had given him a chance. 

Nonsense. Let’s not forget that Harbaugh was fired in San Francisco and very nearly fired at Michigan in 2020. It took him 9 years to win a title, going 1-6 in bowl games until this year. 

How many NFL teams have been beating down his door since he left the 49er's?  He can recruit the players he needs or wants in college and now can pay for the top players.  In the NFL he is at the mercy of the GM to get him the players within a salary cap.  A completely different game.

You would think as great of a coach, some think he is, that he would be in big demand for an NFL team and if he would be hired, hell just give them the Super Bowl trophy and skip the season.  The Harbaugh ship has sailed.

@"comet52" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Skodin" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Yeah, a great college coach always makes for a great pro coach. 

I know, I can only imagine what he would do in the NFL . . 

Maybe take a below average team and turn them into a monster to compete in NFCCG 2 out of 3 years, with a Super Bowl in between.

Makes ya wonder why they pushed him out in San Francisco. He said it himself. It wasn't his decision. Why? Why would the world's best-ever coach get pushed out? 

The 49ers were 6-10 the year before they hired Harbaugh. Harbaugh was 44-19 in San Francisco with two division titles and a Super Bowl appearance. Totally transformed that franchise, and did it quickly. He was pushed out because of a clash with then GM Trent Baalke and whispers of him jumping ship to Michigan every year. I think it was a mutual parting of ways but reads as he "was fired." As we know, when the GM and head coach don't see eye to eye and aren't on speaking terms...it's a problem 

Baalke has a rep as a total dbag.  I don't get why fans are so terrified of a coach who actually wins everywhere he goes.  KOC was a total unknown who is showing us a lot of flaws right now.   His best skill is pumping hot gas at the presser after the game.

People here loved Mike Zimmer and he never won shit and was abrasive as hell.  How does Harbaugh get some higher level of Viking fan look-down-your-nose than that guy?

It's weird that fans ( and owners) of a franchise that hasn't done dick for 45 years are out on the guy who might have turned that around.  

I was intrigued w/ hiring Harbaugh until we didn’t, doubt we’re going to call him back, onward we must go…

@"bigbone62" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"bigbone62" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"bigbone62" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"supafreak84" said: I thought it was a mistake not hiring him. Would anybody trade KOC for him now?

You can probably thank Jim Stapleton for that set of circumstances.

Jim Stapleton is not and has never been a minority owner of the Vikings. That has been debunked. Stapleton was part of Reggie Fowlers team that bid on the Vikings. He would have been a member on the board of directors had the Reggie deal not fell through. He did then assist the Wilfs but was never given any offical role after they took ownership.  

Did I say insinuate anything about Stapleton's official position on the org. chart?

Lol then what does a guy who only briefly, and nearly 20 years ago, have to do with Harbaugh not being hired in MN two seasons ago? 

Who are you even talking about?

He was hired by the Detroit Tigers in 2001 as senior vice president of business affairs. He left that job and was hired by Reggie Fowler in 2004 to guide the franchise through the stadium seeking process. When Fowlers bid fell through Stapleton then served a similar role during the purchasing process with the Wilfs. Had the Fowler deal not fallen through Stapleton would have served on the board of directors. He had no role with the team once the Wilfs took over.