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Yep,  if we ended up with Penix, without having to trade up to get him,    and you had a feather up your ass.... we'd both be tickled.   :)

I was hoping to see Trice from Washington fall to us in the second,  but I can't be greedy.

@"JimmyinSD" said: Yep,  if we ended up with Penix, without having to trade up to get him,    and you had a feather up your ass.... we'd both be tickled.   :)

I was hoping to see Trice from Washington fall to us in the second,  but I can't be greedy.

lol, I laughed. I'm not really anti-Penix, I just worry a bit about his injury history. He's got a great arm and just enough mobility. He's a mature kid. I'd get behind it if it happens. JJ McCarthy is the kind of prospect who you have to believe you can coach up because he's got a higher ceiling, but he's a risky selection. 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: Yep,  if we ended up with Penix, without having to trade up to get him,    and you had a feather up your ass.... we'd both be tickled.   :)

I was hoping to see Trice from Washington fall to us in the second,  but I can't be greedy.

lol, I laughed. I'm not really anti-Penix, I just worry a bit about his injury history. He's got a great arm and just enough mobility. He's a mature kid. I'd get behind it if it happens. JJ McCarthy is the kind of prospect who you have to believe you can coach up because he's got a higher ceiling, but he's a risky selection. 

1). I hope we draft higher than 12

2). If they really love someone, I hope they make a move up to get him
    - Jayden Daniels is the guy I would like to see them get

3). I'd be good with Penix;
   - High floor, dont know how high his ceiling is or how it compares to McCarthys's.
   - I think he is more ready for the pros today vs McCarthy
   - Would not surprise me if his age and injury history would make the Vikings pass

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-football/what-is-michael-penix-jr-nfl-draft-ceiling

I think MPJ is the biggest boom or bust QB in the draft. But ya gotta be pretty stoked to land a top QB without moving up. 

I think it would benefit the Vikings to see Arizona land on that 3rd slot. I think they might be open to a trade down. And if so, the Vikings may decide they'd be happy with any of the top 3 QBs (I know I would) and move there long before the draft, ala 49ers a few years ago. 

I think I'm firmly in the McCarthy over Penix camp at this point

Penix accuracy is unreal, he reminds me of Kenny Stabler a little bit. He just slings into tight windows all over the field.  Now highlights didnt show me his ability to move in the pocket, or deal with pressure, but he certainly sees the field well and has enough arm for the NFL. 

@"Bullazin" said: Penix accuracy is unreal, he reminds me of Kenny Stabler a little bit. He just slings into tight windows all over the field.  Now highlights didnt show me his ability to move in the pocket, or deal with pressure, but he certainly sees the field well and has enough arm for the NFL. 

I like his feel in the pocket, seems to avoid sacks pretty well that in itself would be an upgrade. Bigger arm than stabler ever had.

It will be fun to see who climbs and who falls. There was a point in time when Bridgewater was expected to be first overall. My guess, and it is just that, a guess, on the climb up the chart is McCarthy. I could see him being one of the top three taken.

The Bears passing on a QB, I like it…!  B) 

I think I'd prefer McCarthy 

Is anybody surprised that a major media outlet ranks a prospect 56th overall and 8th at the position and then says, "Let's give him to the Vikings at 12"?  :p  I think they're undervaluing Penix and would be fine with him at 12 but I'm sure the Vikes' doctors will be working overtime poking and prodding everything imaginable.

I'm nearly always against big trade-ups for QB's but Jayden Daniels makes me drool.  If he's still there at 3 I'd be too happy getting him to worry (much) about the price.

If McCarthy has a big game Monday (meaning Harbaugh's offense would have to allow that) it'll be good for his Draft status.