Its pretty simple....

My prediction was they'd win if they keep the turn-over ratio at less that -2.0.

They didnt do that. 

They had every chance to win last night and couldn't overcome the -3.0.

 Big divisional game coming-up and I expect the Bears to play the Vikings as tough as they did Detroit. 

Here's simple. 44 catches the ball for a turnover and there would be jubilation in Viking land with all sins forgiven.
But no. He dropped it and they lost the game. The Vikings were the better team in my estimation. It was a game of squandered opportunities.

@"jargomcfargo" said: Here's simple. 44 catches the ball for a turnover and there would be jubilation in Viking land with all sins forgiven. But no. He dropped it and they lost the game. The Vikings were the better team in my estimation. It was a game of squandered opportunities.

When Minnesota was up 17-9 and had the ball toward the end of the 3rd quarter driving, they were in complete control. The Broncos were on life support. 

@"StickyBun" said: When Minnesota was up 17-9 and had the ball toward the end of the 3rd quarter driving, they were in complete control. The Broncos were on life support. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: When Minnesota was up 17-9 and had the ball toward the end of the 3rd quarter driving, they were in complete control. The Broncos were on life support. 

I remember telling my son around that time that it felt like the Vikings should be up by 20. But it was really just a one-score game. 

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: When Minnesota was up 17-9 and had the ball toward the end of the 3rd quarter driving, they were in complete control. The Broncos were on life support. 

I remember telling my son around that time that it felt like the Vikings should be up by 20. But it was really just a one-score game. 

Yep, we're converting 50% of red zone trips into TDs. That's 19th in the league. Not atrocious but not good either. Sprinkle in some missed FGs and a heap of turnovers, it's actually a wonder that we rank 11th in the league in PPG. Further proves the argument that many fans hold their own team up to a higher standard than what's realistic.

@"comet52" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: When Minnesota was up 17-9 and had the ball toward the end of the 3rd quarter driving, they were in complete control. The Broncos were on life support. 

I remember telling my son around that time that it felt like the Vikings should be up by 20. But it was really just a one-score game. 

Yep, we're converting 50% of red zone trips into TDs. That's 19th in the league. Not atrocious but not good either. Sprinkle in some missed FGs and a heap of turnovers, it's actually a wonder that we rank 11th in the league in PPG. Further proves the argument that many fans hold their own team up to a higher standard than what's realistic.

The closer we get to the goal line the more KOC seems to lose his shit calling plays.  I don't know why.

@"comet52" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: When Minnesota was up 17-9 and had the ball toward the end of the 3rd quarter driving, they were in complete control. The Broncos were on life support. 

I remember telling my son around that time that it felt like the Vikings should be up by 20. But it was really just a one-score game. 

Yep, we're converting 50% of red zone trips into TDs. That's 19th in the league. Not atrocious but not good either. Sprinkle in some missed FGs and a heap of turnovers, it's actually a wonder that we rank 11th in the league in PPG. Further proves the argument that many fans hold their own team up to a higher standard than what's realistic.

The closer we get to the goal line the more KOC seems to lose his shit calling plays.  I don't know why.

The two things that bugged me the most about the game were the last two drives of the game.  Turnovers are part of the game that you have to overcome and we should have been able to win the game despite them. The last defensive stand was a complete joke, after playing aggressive defense all game, we went into a shell, rushed 3 guys and gave them the entire middle of the field wide open. Anyone could have gone down and scored against that scheme, it was as if we were up by two scores.  And then getting the ball with 1:03 and 3 timeouts, I don't see any excuse to not get yourself in FG position, instead we lost 4 yards on the drive. The game was there for us and we completely fell apart and choked it away.  

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"comet52" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: When Minnesota was up 17-9 and had the ball toward the end of the 3rd quarter driving, they were in complete control. The Broncos were on life support. 

I remember telling my son around that time that it felt like the Vikings should be up by 20. But it was really just a one-score game. 

Yep, we're converting 50% of red zone trips into TDs. That's 19th in the league. Not atrocious but not good either. Sprinkle in some missed FGs and a heap of turnovers, it's actually a wonder that we rank 11th in the league in PPG. Further proves the argument that many fans hold their own team up to a higher standard than what's realistic.

The closer we get to the goal line the more KOC seems to lose his shit calling plays.  I don't know why.

Vikings rank a pedestrian #19 in Red Zone TD Scoring (50%)

In 2022? That was 63% (top 10)

red-zone-scoring-pct

@"JR44" said: The two things that bugged me the most about the game were the last two drives of the game.  Turnovers are part of the game that you have to overcome and we should have been able to win the game despite them. The last defensive stand was a complete joke, after playing aggressive defense all game, we went into a shell, rushed 3 guys and gave them the entire middle of the field wide open. Anyone could have gone down and scored against that scheme, it was as if we were up by two scores.  And then getting the ball with 1:03 and 3 timeouts, I don't see any excuse to not get yourself in FG position, instead we lost 4 yards on the drive. The game was there for us and we completely fell apart and choked it away.  

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"comet52" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: When Minnesota was up 17-9 and had the ball toward the end of the 3rd quarter driving, they were in complete control. The Broncos were on life support. 

I remember telling my son around that time that it felt like the Vikings should be up by 20. But it was really just a one-score game. 

Yep, we're converting 50% of red zone trips into TDs. That's 19th in the league. Not atrocious but not good either. Sprinkle in some missed FGs and a heap of turnovers, it's actually a wonder that we rank 11th in the league in PPG. Further proves the argument that many fans hold their own team up to a higher standard than what's realistic.

The closer we get to the goal line the more KOC seems to lose his shit calling plays.  I don't know why.

Less field ro work with,  we cant run the ball for shit in short yardage situations as our IOL generates negative yards themselves and they don't open holes very often either.  So that says we are going to need to pass which doesn't allow the LBs and DBs to be moved vertically only horizontally which is harder to create pass lanes and give the QB enough time to get away from what is typically a free rusher.  

If we can upgrade our IOL with some power guys, that can pass protect,  I think we turn another corner in O,  like adding the element of mobility to the QB position has raised the bar and opened up more play design options.

@"jargomcfargo" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"comet52" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: When Minnesota was up 17-9 and had the ball toward the end of the 3rd quarter driving, they were in complete control. The Broncos were on life support. 

I remember telling my son around that time that it felt like the Vikings should be up by 20. But it was really just a one-score game. 

Yep, we're converting 50% of red zone trips into TDs. That's 19th in the league. Not atrocious but not good either. Sprinkle in some missed FGs and a heap of turnovers, it's actually a wonder that we rank 11th in the league in PPG. Further proves the argument that many fans hold their own team up to a higher standard than what's realistic.

The closer we get to the goal line the more KOC seems to lose his shit calling plays.  I don't know why.

Less field ro work with,  we cant run the ball for shit in short yardage situations as our IOL generates negative yards themselves and they don't open holes very often either.  So that says we are going to need to pass which doesn't allow the LBs and DBs to be moved vertically only horizontally which is harder to create pass lanes and give the QB enough time to get away from what is typically a free rusher.  

If we can upgrade our IOL with some power guys, that can pass protect,  I think we turn another corner in O,  like adding the element of mobility to the QB position has raised the bar and opened up more play design options.

I just hate it on short yardage situations when they run sideways down the line of scrimmage. It only takes one defender to penetrate the line get a tackle for a loss. Shame they don't seem to have one single road grader in the middle of the line they can run North and South behind.

@"jargomcfargo" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"comet52" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: When Minnesota was up 17-9 and had the ball toward the end of the 3rd quarter driving, they were in complete control. The Broncos were on life support. 

I remember telling my son around that time that it felt like the Vikings should be up by 20. But it was really just a one-score game. 

Yep, we're converting 50% of red zone trips into TDs. That's 19th in the league. Not atrocious but not good either. Sprinkle in some missed FGs and a heap of turnovers, it's actually a wonder that we rank 11th in the league in PPG. Further proves the argument that many fans hold their own team up to a higher standard than what's realistic.

The closer we get to the goal line the more KOC seems to lose his shit calling plays.  I don't know why.

Less field ro work with,  we cant run the ball for shit in short yardage situations as our IOL generates negative yards themselves and they don't open holes very often either.  So that says we are going to need to pass which doesn't allow the LBs and DBs to be moved vertically only horizontally which is harder to create pass lanes and give the QB enough time to get away from what is typically a free rusher.  

If we can upgrade our IOL with some power guys, that can pass protect,  I think we turn another corner in O,  like adding the element of mobility to the QB position has raised the bar and opened up more play design options.

I just hate it on short yardage situations when they run sideways down the line of scrimmage. It only takes one defender to penetrate the line get a tackle for a loss. Shame they don't seem to have one single road grader in the middle of the line they can run North and South behind.

@"MaroonBells" said:

Thanks Alex, I'll go with "What is the definition of insanity?"

Paul Charchian

@PaulCharchian

Alexander Mattison's 11 runs inside the 10-yard line have netted 0 touchdowns and -5 yards.

@"MaroonBells" said:

Thanks Alex, I'll go with "What is the definition of insanity?"

Paul Charchian

@PaulCharchian

Alexander Mattison's 11 runs inside the 10-yard line have netted 0 touchdowns and -5 yards.

@"MaroonBells" said:

Thanks Alex, I'll go with "What is the definition of insanity?"

Paul Charchian

@PaulCharchian

Alexander Mattison's 11 runs inside the 10-yard line have netted 0 touchdowns and -5 yards.

@"JR44" said: The two things that bugged me the most about the game were the last two drives of the game.  Turnovers are part of the game that you have to overcome and we should have been able to win the game despite them. The last defensive stand was a complete joke, after playing aggressive defense all game, we went into a shell, rushed 3 guys and gave them the entire middle of the field wide open. Anyone could have gone down and scored against that scheme, it was as if we were up by two scores.  And then getting the ball with 1:03 and 3 timeouts, I don't see any excuse to not get yourself in FG position, instead we lost 4 yards on the drive. The game was there for us and we completely fell apart and choked it away.