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Cam Bynum

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Is this guy the best safety in football? If not, I don't know who is. He is having an absolutely incredible season and to me he's the biggest cog in what's turned out to be a really good, scrappy secondary. Definitely one of my favorite players on the team. Huge feather in Rick's cap having identified Bynum (4th round) and Metellus (6th round) in back to back drafts. Spielmans thumbprint still looms LARGE on this team 

#1 · Nov 16, 3:12 AM
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lol. 

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I agree both of those picks are proving to be awesome, but without Flores coaching them, it'd be different for both.  I not only think our safety play is really good, but the CBs too.  Kwesi's picks of Evans, Blackmon, and Booth (seeing the field now and doing well) are making plays as well.  The FA addition of Murphy is a noticeable upgrade of PP.Flores is proving to the DB whisperer that Zimmer never lived up to, IMO.
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Everyone is right lol!

Bynum was a great pick-up and this staff is coaching him up as good as any...

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Coaching is bringing out the best of these two.  Metellus was a special team  guy until Flores found out what he could do in his defense.  Lol that no other team in the league understands the brillance of Rick Speilman.

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@"Greylock" said: Coaching is bringing out the best of these two.  Metellus was a special team  guy until Flores found out what he could do in his defense.  Lol that no other team in the league understands the brillance of Rick Speilman.
Generally a 6th round pick is going to take some time to develop, he played quite a bit and flashed last year and also he beat out the Golden Boy's first round pick for playing time before he got hurt =)
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@"JR44" said:
@"Greylock" said: Coaching is bringing out the best of these two.  Metellus was a special team  guy until Flores found out what he could do in his defense.  Lol that no other team in the league understands the brillance of Rick Speilman.
Generally a 6th round pick is going to take some time to develop, he played quite a bit and flashed last year and also he beat out the Golden Boy's first round pick for playing time before he got hurt =)
I wish I knew what the deal is with this guy. Seriously. I mean he smells like a bust, unfortunately. He's been declared inactive a bunch. Yikes.

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@"StickyBun" said:
I wish I knew what the deal is with this guy. Seriously. I mean he smells like a bust, unfortunately. He's been declared inactive a bunch. Yikes.
It makes no sense, he looks like a physical freak and basically played in a NFL defense in college with 4 other guys who all went in the 1st round as well.  It has to be his ability to pick up the schemes and maybe at Georgia the safeties played more of a free roaming position, because they were so dominant up front. 
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@"HappyViking" said:
I agree both of those picks are proving to be awesome, but without Flores coaching them, it'd be different for both.  I not only think our safety play is really good, but the CBs too.  Kwesi's picks of Evans, Blackmon, and Booth (seeing the field now and doing well) are making plays as well.  The FA addition of Murphy is a noticeable upgrade of PP.Flores is proving to the DB whisperer that Zimmer never lived up to, IMO.
I think both guys have been on the uptick since their rookie seasons. Bynum certainly flashed, which to me, made the Cine pick even more of a headscratcher. 
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@"JR44" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
I wish I knew what the deal is with this guy. Seriously. I mean he smells like a bust, unfortunately. He's been declared inactive a bunch. Yikes.
It makes no sense, he looks like a physical freak and basically played in a NFL defense in college with 4 other guys who all went in the 1st round as well.  It has to be his ability to pick up the schemes and maybe at Georgia the safeties played more of a free roaming position, because they were so dominant up front. 
players from teams that are stacked always give me pause,  are they really that good,  or are they never really tested because the rest of the unit is so dominant, especially backs that play behind dominant DL and LBs,  they really dont have to do much after the first few seconds as the QB is usually under duress and not likely to make a very accurate pass.
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@"Greylock" said: Coaching is bringing out the best of these two.  Metellus was a special team  guy until Flores found out what he could do in his defense.  Lol that no other team in the league understands the brillance of Rick Speilman.
Here's the deal on GM's and this was talked about on NFL Radio recently. Coaches routinely get second and sometimes third chances in the NFL while GM's do not. Just the nature of the business. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised to see Spielman get another shot somewhere in the next couple years. 
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@"StickyBun" said: lol. 
Are you not a Bynum fan, Sticky?
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@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said: lol. 
Are you not a Bynum fan, Sticky?
I love Bynum. And its very cool that he finally got his wife over here. Its a mooovieeee! 
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@"HappyViking" said:
I agree both of those picks are proving to be awesome, but without Flores coaching them, it'd be different for both.  I not only think our safety play is really good, but the CBs too.  Kwesi's picks of Evans, Blackmon, and Booth (seeing the field now and doing well) are making plays as well.  The FA addition of Murphy is a noticeable upgrade of PP.Flores is proving to the DB whisperer that Zimmer never lived up to, IMO.
THIS!!

Zimmer inherited Harry and Rhodes, and while he had some impact as their coach...none of "his" guys really are to be found on the team. Waynes? Hughes? Dantzler?

Oh, and for insisting to start Breeland all those times, his credibility as any kind of secondary coach was destroyed forever.

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@"HappyViking" said:
I agree both of those picks are proving to be awesome, but without Flores coaching them, it'd be different for both.  I not only think our safety play is really good, but the CBs too.  Kwesi's picks of Evans, Blackmon, and Booth (seeing the field now and doing well) are making plays as well.  The FA addition of Murphy is a noticeable upgrade of PP.Flores is proving to the DB whisperer that Zimmer never lived up to, IMO.
Agree. Bynum and Metellus have been great. But so have Evans and Blackmon. Rick drafted Hunter, JJ, 4/5ths of our OL and brought in Cousins. Kwesi drafted Ingram who has been playing great. He also drafted Addison, Evans and Blackmon, traded for Hockenson and brought in Dobbs. His moves to shed big salaries in Thielen, Cook, Z, Kendricks and P2 all look like good moves in retrospect. Rick drafted Treadwell. Kwesi drafted Cine. 

Bottom line is that there just isn't a narrative out there that supports any kind of pro or anti Rick or Kwesi narrative. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"HappyViking" said:
I agree both of those picks are proving to be awesome, but without Flores coaching them, it'd be different for both.  I not only think our safety play is really good, but the CBs too.  Kwesi's picks of Evans, Blackmon, and Booth (seeing the field now and doing well) are making plays as well.  The FA addition of Murphy is a noticeable upgrade of PP.Flores is proving to the DB whisperer that Zimmer never lived up to, IMO.

Bottom line is that there just isn't a narrative out there that supports any kind of pro or anti Rick or Kwesi narrative. 



'Hi, I'm Sticky.....first day to the board?'

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"HappyViking" said:
I agree both of those picks are proving to be awesome, but without Flores coaching them, it'd be different for both.  I not only think our safety play is really good, but the CBs too.  Kwesi's picks of Evans, Blackmon, and Booth (seeing the field now and doing well) are making plays as well.  The FA addition of Murphy is a noticeable upgrade of PP.Flores is proving to the DB whisperer that Zimmer never lived up to, IMO.
Agree. Bynum and Metellus have been great. But so have Evans and Blackmon. Rick drafted Hunter, JJ, 4/5ths of our OL and brought in Cousins. Kwesi drafted Ingram who has been playing great. He also drafted Addison, Evans and Blackmon, traded for Hockenson and brought in Dobbs. His moves to shed big salaries in Thielen, Cook, Z, Kendricks and P2 all look like good moves in retrospect. Rick drafted Treadwell. Kwesi drafted Cine. 

Bottom line is that there just isn't a narrative out there that supports any kind of pro or anti Rick or Kwesi narrative. 



Nice post, Bells, but wanted to point out the OL has noticably improved after Kwesi brought in Reisner.  While Rick did draft Bradbury, it was Kwesi that kept him here.  I actually was surprised, but it's worked out very well.  Bradbury is playing way better than I thought he could.

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@"HappyViking" said:
I agree both of those picks are proving to be awesome, but without Flores coaching them, it'd be different for both.  I not only think our safety play is really good, but the CBs too.  Kwesi's picks of Evans, Blackmon, and Booth (seeing the field now and doing well) are making plays as well.  The FA addition of Murphy is a noticeable upgrade of PP.Flores is proving to the DB whisperer that Zimmer never lived up to, IMO.
I agree except that last line.  When Zimmer had DBs that weren't from the 7-11 or the scrapheap, and a pass rush, they flourished.
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@"HappyViking" said: Nice post, Bells, but wanted to point out the OL has noticably improved after Kwesi brought in Reisner.  While Rick did draft Bradbury, it was Kwesi that kept him here.  I actually was surprised, but it's worked out very well.  Bradbury is playing way better than I thought he could.


The OL has been playing pretty well since Bradbury returned and has been healthier.  Kwesi had Risner in for a visit August 1st and didn't sign him until we were 0-2, so if Risner has truly made that big of a difference then I guess we can say that Kwesi may have messed up by not signing him when we were in training camp like most here wanted us to. 

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said: lol. 
Are you not a Bynum fan, Sticky?
I love Bynum. And its very cool that he finally got his wife over here. Its a mooovieeee! 
Yeah that  was cool.  But to the OP, I think the lol was more of a "see through the agenda" post.
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@"JR44" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
I wish I knew what the deal is with this guy. Seriously. I mean he smells like a bust, unfortunately. He's been declared inactive a bunch. Yikes.
It makes no sense, he looks like a physical freak and basically played in a NFL defense in college with 4 other guys who all went in the 1st round as well.  It has to be his ability to pick up the schemes and maybe at Georgia the safeties played more of a free roaming position, because they were so dominant up front. 
He had a major injury just a year ago.  The tib-fib used to be a career ending injury.  Perhaps he is still overcoming the mental side of trusting his body.  

Not making excuses because seeing a 1st rounder in street clothes isn't normal.  But it is a possibility.

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