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Green Bay implosion!!

Packers coach Matt LaFleur wasn't happy with Aaron Jones' decision to stay in boundsLaFleur was asked about Jordan Love's performance in the potential game-winning drive. He went straight to the costly play by Jones.
"I thought there was an opportunity to get out of bounds right there, and we didn't. That was critical because that wasted a ton of time. We would've had a couple of opportunities at the end of the game. That was like 20 seconds or so. It felt like forever," said LaFleur.

Although he's right, it was still surprising to hear LaFleur go after Jones in the press conference. While he didn't actually blame him, instead saying "we" didn't get out of bounds, he's calling out his running back. It was Jones' mistake.
And LaFleur brought it up again later in the press conference when discussing the final drive.
"Our guys got up on the ball in a timely fashion, with some urgency, but I really think the play that really hurt us obviously was wasting so much time when we checked it down to Aaron Jones," said LaFleur.
LaFleur isn't wrong. Everything has to go perfectly when you have less than a minute with no timeouts. Clock management is priority number one. That means understanding when to fight for yards and when to get out of bounds. In that situation, the latter is almost always the best option. Jones' only way to pick up yards was to make a defender miss, which he couldn't.
The Packers will take positives from this performance. They finally started fast, and Jordan Love made a bunch of impressive plays. But they will regret some costly decisions, including Jones' mistake on the final drive.

#1 · Nov 13, 7:21 AM
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I wish Green Bay an 8/9 season...

In perpetuity. 

#2 · Nov 13, 7:26 AM
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Love it. Its tough to win games in the NFL when you are inconsistent as a team. And although Jordan Love isn't garbage, he's never going to be great either. He's mid. And he throws untimely INTs. 

I never thought LaFleur was a great coach. I thought Mike McCarthy was better. 

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We need the packers to win a few more here though.  This 2-3 wins thing isn't enough.  That and Love has to show just enough to remain QB1 for them next year. 

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@"AGRforever" said: We need the packers to win a few more here though.  This 2-3 wins thing isn't enough.  That and Love has to show just enough to remain QB1 for them next year. 


I am 100% with you.

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@"AGRforever" said: We need the packers to win a few more here though.  This 2-3 wins thing isn't enough.  That and Love has to show just enough to remain QB1 for them next year. 


my thoughts exactly,  with the crop of promising young QBs coming out next spring, I really dont want them in position to land a solid replacement for Love.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"AGRforever" said: We need the packers to win a few more here though.  This 2-3 wins thing isn't enough.  That and Love has to show just enough to remain QB1 for them next year. 


my thoughts exactly,  with the crop of promising young QBs coming out next spring, I really dont want them in position to land a solid replacement for Love.


My thoughts as well. Same for Fields in Chicago. 

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I'll be pulling for the fudge Thanksgiving day.

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Packer fans have gotten spoiled with Favre and then Rodgers, hell many of them aren't old enough to remember the days of the terrible quarterbacks to wear the Packer uniforms.  They deserve Love and the inconsistence quarterback play.  I wish them many crappy seasons going forward just because I'm a Viking fan.  

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@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/KenIngalls/status/1723814498237112774
This trade has worked for the Vikings. 
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@"jargomcfargo" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"AGRforever" said: We need the packers to win a few more here though.  This 2-3 wins thing isn't enough.  That and Love has to show just enough to remain QB1 for them next year. 


my thoughts exactly,  with the crop of promising young QBs coming out next spring, I really dont want them in position to land a solid replacement for Love.


My thoughts as well. Same for Fields in Chicago. 


How fitting is it that Chicago be stuck with a crappy Fields for a few more years

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@"greediron" said:
@"jargomcfargo" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"AGRforever" said: We need the packers to win a few more here though.  This 2-3 wins thing isn't enough.  That and Love has to show just enough to remain QB1 for them next year. 


my thoughts exactly,  with the crop of promising young QBs coming out next spring, I really dont want them in position to land a solid replacement for Love.


My thoughts as well. Same for Fields in Chicago. 


How fitting is it that Chicago be stuck with a crappy Fields for a few more years



They won't be. They have the Panthers' pick as well as their own. They can take Marvin Harrison Jr. and the 2d or 3d QB in the draft. 

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@"dadevike" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"jargomcfargo" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"AGRforever" said: We need the packers to win a few more here though.  This 2-3 wins thing isn't enough.  That and Love has to show just enough to remain QB1 for them next year. 


my thoughts exactly,  with the crop of promising young QBs coming out next spring, I really dont want them in position to land a solid replacement for Love.


My thoughts as well. Same for Fields in Chicago. 


How fitting is it that Chicago be stuck with a crappy Fields for a few more years



They won't be. They have the Panthers' pick as well as their own. They can take Marvin Harrison Jr. and the 2d or 3d QB in the draft. 


I know, but can you at least appreciate the pun.

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@"dadevike" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"jargomcfargo" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"AGRforever" said: We need the packers to win a few more here though.  This 2-3 wins thing isn't enough.  That and Love has to show just enough to remain QB1 for them next year. 


my thoughts exactly,  with the crop of promising young QBs coming out next spring, I really dont want them in position to land a solid replacement for Love.


My thoughts as well. Same for Fields in Chicago. 


How fitting is it that Chicago be stuck with a crappy Fields for a few more years



They won't be. They have the Panthers' pick as well as their own. They can take Marvin Harrison Jr. and the 2d or 3d QB in the draft. 

Yeah, one of the top 2 QBs is going to Chicago.  No chance do they pass on that chance. 

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@"greediron" said:
@"dadevike" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"jargomcfargo" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"AGRforever" said: We need the packers to win a few more here though.  This 2-3 wins thing isn't enough.  That and Love has to show just enough to remain QB1 for them next year. 


my thoughts exactly,  with the crop of promising young QBs coming out next spring, I really dont want them in position to land a solid replacement for Love.


My thoughts as well. Same for Fields in Chicago. 


How fitting is it that Chicago be stuck with a crappy Fields for a few more years



They won't be. They have the Panthers' pick as well as their own. They can take Marvin Harrison Jr. and the 2d or 3d QB in the draft. 


I know, but can you at least appreciate the pun.


Yeah, I missed that completely. My most humble apologies.

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@"AGRforever" said:
@"dadevike" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"jargomcfargo" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"AGRforever" said: We need the packers to win a few more here though.  This 2-3 wins thing isn't enough.  That and Love has to show just enough to remain QB1 for them next year. 


my thoughts exactly,  with the crop of promising young QBs coming out next spring, I really dont want them in position to land a solid replacement for Love.


My thoughts as well. Same for Fields in Chicago. 


How fitting is it that Chicago be stuck with a crappy Fields for a few more years



They won't be. They have the Panthers' pick as well as their own. They can take Marvin Harrison Jr. and the 2d or 3d QB in the draft. 

Yeah, one of the top 2 QBs is going to Chicago.  No chance do they pass on that chance. 


Maybe, maybe not. They moved up for Trubisky and passed on Mahomes.

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@"wiviking" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
@"dadevike" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"jargomcfargo" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"AGRforever" said: We need the packers to win a few more here though.  This 2-3 wins thing isn't enough.  That and Love has to show just enough to remain QB1 for them next year. 


my thoughts exactly,  with the crop of promising young QBs coming out next spring, I really dont want them in position to land a solid replacement for Love.


My thoughts as well. Same for Fields in Chicago. 


How fitting is it that Chicago be stuck with a crappy Fields for a few more years



They won't be. They have the Panthers' pick as well as their own. They can take Marvin Harrison Jr. and the 2d or 3d QB in the draft. 

Yeah, one of the top 2 QBs is going to Chicago.  No chance do they pass on that chance. 


Maybe, maybe not. They moved up for Trubisky and passed on Mahomes.



It is trending that way. Of course, if they play Fields again and he starts playing like Mahomes, then all bets are off. But if they decide to shut him down and go with Bagent the rest of the year, or if they reinsert Fields and he is ineffective, they will likely take another shot at their QBOTF. 

I am agnostic on Fields. His running talent is incredible. I wonder what KOC could do with him. It has only been 2 games but you have to love Dobbs' ability to extend plays with his legs and to gain real and critical yards. We have not had that here in years. 

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@"dadevike" said:
@"wiviking" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
@"dadevike" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"jargomcfargo" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"AGRforever" said: We need the packers to win a few more here though.  This 2-3 wins thing isn't enough.  That and Love has to show just enough to remain QB1 for them next year. 


my thoughts exactly,  with the crop of promising young QBs coming out next spring, I really dont want them in position to land a solid replacement for Love.


My thoughts as well. Same for Fields in Chicago. 


How fitting is it that Chicago be stuck with a crappy Fields for a few more years



They won't be. They have the Panthers' pick as well as their own. They can take Marvin Harrison Jr. and the 2d or 3d QB in the draft. 

Yeah, one of the top 2 QBs is going to Chicago.  No chance do they pass on that chance. 


Maybe, maybe not. They moved up for Trubisky and passed on Mahomes.



It is trending that way. Of course, if they play Fields again and he starts playing like Mahomes, then all bets are off. But if they decide to shut him down and go with Bagent the rest of the year, or if they reinsert Fields and he is ineffective, they will likely take another shot at their QBOTF. 

I am agnostic on Fields. His running talent is incredible. I wonder what KOC could do with him. It has only been 2 games but you have to love Dobbs' ability to extend plays with his legs and to gain real and critical yards. We have not had that here in years. 



we need RB depth... so Fields is an option,  but we also need a QBOTF so I would prioritize QB and draft one,  Fields is not an NFL QB IMO. 

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@"AGRforever" said:
@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/KenIngalls/status/1723814498237112774
This trade has worked for the Vikings. 
Remember the freakout angst on the board from some? You'd have thought the guy was the next Randy Moss. 
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