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I have zero idea how this will go, but it's up to Minnesota. It's not like Murderer's Row is upcoming. Contender or Pretender time:

 https://twitter.com/WillRagatz/status/1716671084026638578

#1 · Oct 24, 12:41 PM
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The team will need more of this:

#2 · Oct 24, 12:59 PM
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Viking are +2 TO ratio the last two games, -7.0 the previous ones.

Who the hell knows which team will show-up the rest of the way?

The one that beat a good 9'er team? Or the one capable of looking like the 3 stooges @ LAmblow?

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@"StickyBun" said: The team will need more of this:


He definitely called his best game of the year but where has this creativity been? This is the first time we've seen Kirko Chains make an appearance all season. We have been so conservative and predictable up until this game. Take the leash off of Kirk and let him rip it. We can use the run to set-up the pass, but we are not a run first team just because we signed Oliver in the offseason. 

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@"TBro" said:
@"StickyBun" said: The team will need more of this:


He definitely called his best game of the year but where has this creativity been? This is the first time we've seen Kirko Chains make an appearance all season. We have been so conservative and predictable up until this game. Take the leash off of Kirk and let him rip it. We can use the run to set-up the pass, but we are not a run first team just because we signed Oliver in the offseason. 


Can I get an AMEN!!

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@"TBro" said:
@"StickyBun" said: The team will need more of this:

 This is the first time we've seen Kirko Chains make an appearance all season. We have been so conservative and predictable up until this game. Take the leash off of Kirk and let him rip it.. 


Kirko needs to eat, baby! Let him cook, KOC!!

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@"TBro" said:
@"StickyBun" said: The team will need more of this:


He definitely called his best game of the year but where has this creativity been? This is the first time we've seen Kirko Chains make an appearance all season. We have been so conservative and predictable up until this game. Take the leash off of Kirk and let him rip it. We can use the run to set-up the pass, but we are not a run first team just because we signed Oliver in the offseason. 


I tend to agree on the pass to set up the run,  but it was early on that our run game was at its best,  AM got some damn nice carries in that first quarter before they even tried to establish a passing game... didnt take long to get back to the pass though IIRC,  I think I saw they ended up over double the amount of pass plays to runs.

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Just imagine if KOC was creative/successful in short yardage situations and the red zone.  The team is still terribly inefficient in both categories and it's killed us in 3 of the 4 losses.  What should have been a "beating" was a one score game.

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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"TBro" said:
@"StickyBun" said: The team will need more of this:


He definitely called his best game of the year but where has this creativity been? This is the first time we've seen Kirko Chains make an appearance all season. We have been so conservative and predictable up until this game. Take the leash off of Kirk and let him rip it. We can use the run to set-up the pass, but we are not a run first team just because we signed Oliver in the offseason. 


Can I get an AMEN!!


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I have seen all this before. YAWN!!!

#10 · Oct 24, 9:17 PM
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just hang on to the ball. catch the ball

#11 · Oct 24, 10:03 PM
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Like the players said last night, gotta get in the mindset for the Pukers, one win means nothing one game later.

I'd like to think that the Vikings are finally gelling, after looking very "off" to start the season. I was expecting teething problems with the new defense, but the turnovers and drops...yeah, that needed attending.

Hopefully, that's getting handled.

IF it is, then the Vikings should be in good shape going forward: our offense can produce while awaiting JJ's return, our defense gets better each week, and our coaching staff is growing into their (still fairly new) roles nicely.  I have to believe that we're up to the Green Bay/Love challenge.

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Okay all the gelling and coming together is great, but is there some sub-media schism things going on?  Any speculation with the Chris Rumph PTO on Saturday?  Don't think he was a Brian Flores choice.

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@"BigAl99" said: Okay all the gelling and coming together is great, but is there some sub-media schism things going on?  Any speculation with the Chris Rumph PTO on Saturday?  Don't think he was a Brian Flores choice.


what was that about?

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@"StickyBun" said: The team will need more of this:


That was kind of the revelation for me last night.   He had the right plan to attack the Niners D and the team executed it.   A really smart, effective strategy in fact.   I don't know if this is just some lucky outlier or the start of some improvement because up until now, his calls and decisions have had me thinking he's the wrong guy at h.c.   I guess we'll see what happens going forward.   I'm reluctant to take one good game and jump on a drunken bandwagon of oh boy we're comin' now but if he called that good of a game every week we'd win 10 games or more even with the slow start.

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@"kmillard" said:
@"BigAl99" said: Okay all the gelling and coming together is great, but is there some sub-media schism things going on?  Any speculation with the Chris Rumph PTO on Saturday?  Don't think he was a Brian Flores choice.


what was that about?

Defensive line coach to sudden personal time off two days before the game.
https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/kevin-oconnell-chris-rumph-nfl/

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@"comet52" said:
@"StickyBun" said: The team will need more of this:


That was kind of the revelation for me last night.   He had the right plan to attack the Niners D and the team executed it.   A really smart, effective strategy in fact.   I don't know if this is just some lucky outlier or the start of some improvement because up until now, his calls and decisions have had me thinking he's the wrong guy at h.c.   I guess we'll see what happens going forward.   I'm reluctant to take one good game and jump on a drunken bandwagon of oh boy we're comin' now but if he called that good of a game every week we'd win 10 games or more even with the slow start.


But keep in mind the only difference betwen the 49ers game and the games against the Chiefs, Chargers and Eagles was that the Vikings didn't shoot themselves in the foot more than the other team. 

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@"BigAl99" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"BigAl99" said: Okay all the gelling and coming together is great, but is there some sub-media schism things going on?  Any speculation with the Chris Rumph PTO on Saturday?  Don't think he was a Brian Flores choice.


what was that about?

Defensive line coach to sudden personal time off two days before the game.
https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/kevin-oconnell-chris-rumph-nfl/



That's two assistants on the same side of the ball...

Something aint right, way too coincidental.

 Been watching this league since the 70's and never seen that b4 .

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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"BigAl99" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"BigAl99" said: Okay all the gelling and coming together is great, but is there some sub-media schism things going on?  Any speculation with the Chris Rumph PTO on Saturday?  Don't think he was a Brian Flores choice.


what was that about?

Defensive line coach to sudden personal time off two days before the game.
https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/kevin-oconnell-chris-rumph-nfl/



That's two assistants on the same side of the ball...

Something aint right, way too coincidental.

 Been watching this league since the 70's and never seen that b4 .


Not sure either, just wondering if there is any speculation going on in the motherland.  I expected a more aggressive defense this year, they are improved but not what I anticipated.  Kind of a disheartening, actually, thought they were just under performing last year, but that may have just been playing closer to their potential. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"StickyBun" said: The team will need more of this:


That was kind of the revelation for me last night.   He had the right plan to attack the Niners D and the team executed it.   A really smart, effective strategy in fact.   I don't know if this is just some lucky outlier or the start of some improvement because up until now, his calls and decisions have had me thinking he's the wrong guy at h.c.   I guess we'll see what happens going forward.   I'm reluctant to take one good game and jump on a drunken bandwagon of oh boy we're comin' now but if he called that good of a game every week we'd win 10 games or more even with the slow start.


But keep in mind the only difference betwen the 49ers game and the games against the Chiefs, Chargers and Eagles was that the Vikings didn't shoot themselves in the foot more than the other team. 


Ahhh, no.   KOC was not calling great games in those contests, he was looking like he didn't know what he was doing.  There was a clear difference last night.  Also Kirk pretty much played the game of his life.

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@"comet52" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"StickyBun" said: The team will need more of this:


That was kind of the revelation for me last night.   He had the right plan to attack the Niners D and the team executed it.   A really smart, effective strategy in fact.   I don't know if this is just some lucky outlier or the start of some improvement because up until now, his calls and decisions have had me thinking he's the wrong guy at h.c.   I guess we'll see what happens going forward.   I'm reluctant to take one good game and jump on a drunken bandwagon of oh boy we're comin' now but if he called that good of a game every week we'd win 10 games or more even with the slow start.


But keep in mind the only difference betwen the 49ers game and the games against the Chiefs, Chargers and Eagles was that the Vikings didn't shoot themselves in the foot more than the other team. 


Ahhh, no.   KOC was not calling great games in those contests, he was looking like he didn't know what he was doing.  There was a clear difference last night.  Also Kirk pretty much played the game of his life.


OK, but do you only see wins and losses? it's not like Cousins didn't play well until the 49er game. No QB in the NFL threw more TDs than Kirk Cousins before the 49er game even began, despite playing one of the NFL's toughest early schedules. 

And it's not like the Vikings were blown out by the Eagles, Chargers and Chiefs. They played three very good teams to the whistle despite an NFL record number of turnovers. And an argument could be made that without Hockenson's fumble against the Chargers, JJ's bizarro fumble into the end zone against the Eagles, and a totally blown DPI call against the Chiefs, the Vikings may have won all three. 

Now, yes, you can play what ifs until your face is purple, but you don't play those teams to the wire by calling crap games and having a crap QB. 

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