GBN updated Mock Draft

yes it would. Or a trade down to the 20s or lower.

Shedeur in Vegas !?!

Almost want to see how THAT plays out

This is going to be one of the guys that might move into the top 10. All the signs of a classic, in-season riser heading into the Draft:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4360423/michael-penix-jr

@"Vanguard83" said: Shedeur in Vegas !?!

Almost want to see how THAT plays out

Coach SubPrime already said he wants his boys playing in Atlanta.

@"StickyBun" said: This is going to be one of the guys that might move into the top 10. All the signs of a classic, in-season riser heading into the Draft:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4360423/michael-penix-jr

Have the Vikings ever even tried a lefty? 

If Caleb Williams is gone we would do well to pick either Penix, McCarthy, or Maye

@"FLVike" said: If Caleb Williams is gone we would do well to pick either Penix, McCarthy, or Maye

Maye hasnt impressed me much, Penix arrow pointing up. 

Penix's injury history scares me. Talented, but seems to get nicked too often, can't imagine him lasting an NFL season...especially behind a suspect line.

Give me Maye or McCarthy. Either one of those two and I'll be happy. 

Under the radar pick - Ewers. Kid has as much talent as anyone else in the draft, just needs more games under his belt and consistency.

Kiper updated his top 25 big board a few days ago. Still has Williams at 1, Maye at 2, and Shaduer Sanders at 5. Otherwise he doesn't have another quarterback on his list. Heavy on offensive and defensive lineman (strong group), and receivers, which has been the trend. 

Just my hunch at this point, but Ive always said we aren't a bad enough team to be drafting top 10. We likely extend Cousins and probably draft a defensive lineman with that becoming a heavy favorite if we do in fact trade Hunter in the coming weeks. Same old Vikings...wash, rinse, repeat...

@"supafreak84" said: Kiper updated his top 25 big board a few days ago. Still has Williams at 1, Maye at 2, and Shaduer Sanders at 5. Otherwise he doesn't have another quarterback on his list. Heavy on offensive and defensive lineman (strong group), and receivers, which has been the trend. 

Just my hunch at this point, but Ive always said we aren't a bad enough team to be drafting top 10. We likely extend Cousins and probably draft a defensive lineman with that becoming a heavy favorite if we do in fact trade Hunter in the coming weeks. Same old Vikings...wash, rinse, repeat...

I think my head would explode,  I would definitely be needing Maroons tv repair guys number.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Kiper updated his top 25 big board a few days ago. Still has Williams at 1, Maye at 2, and Shaduer Sanders at 5. Otherwise he doesn't have another quarterback on his list. Heavy on offensive and defensive lineman (strong group), and receivers, which has been the trend. 

Just my hunch at this point, but Ive always said we aren't a bad enough team to be drafting top 10. We likely extend Cousins and probably draft a defensive lineman with that becoming a heavy favorite if we do in fact trade Hunter in the coming weeks. Same old Vikings...wash, rinse, repeat...

I think my head would explode,  I would definitely be needing Maroons tv repair guys number.

@"supafreak84" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Kiper updated his top 25 big board a few days ago. Still has Williams at 1, Maye at 2, and Shaduer Sanders at 5. Otherwise he doesn't have another quarterback on his list. Heavy on offensive and defensive lineman (strong group), and receivers, which has been the trend. 

Just my hunch at this point, but Ive always said we aren't a bad enough team to be drafting top 10. We likely extend Cousins and probably draft a defensive lineman with that becoming a heavy favorite if we do in fact trade Hunter in the coming weeks. Same old Vikings...wash, rinse, repeat...

I think my head would explode,  I would definitely be needing Maroons tv repair guys number.

Brace yourself because we are probably going on a run after this 49ers game. We'll end up with 7 or 8 wins when all is said and done and the front office will have reached their competitive mandate. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Kiper updated his top 25 big board a few days ago. Still has Williams at 1, Maye at 2, and Shaduer Sanders at 5. Otherwise he doesn't have another quarterback on his list. Heavy on offensive and defensive lineman (strong group), and receivers, which has been the trend. 

Just my hunch at this point, but Ive always said we aren't a bad enough team to be drafting top 10. We likely extend Cousins and probably draft a defensive lineman with that becoming a heavy favorite if we do in fact trade Hunter in the coming weeks. Same old Vikings...wash, rinse, repeat...

I think my head would explode,  I would definitely be needing Maroons tv repair guys number.

Brace yourself because we are probably going on a run after this 49ers game. We'll end up with 7 or 8 wins when all is said and done and the front office will have reached their competitive mandate. 

that would be the worst definition of "competitive" in the history of bad definitions.

purgatory sucks and I said as much in another thread...

That said, w/out JJ? The wins will be harder to come by 
Addison is a rookie
Mattison has looked pedestrian
KJ/TJ - both are just not on their "A games" this year

 If I recall right, the Chiefs made a big move up to top 10/12 to get Mahomes? So nice things can happen to those with the balls to make a move. 

@"purplefaithful" said: purgatory sucks and I said as much in another thread...

That said, w/out JJ? The wins will be harder to come by 
Addison is a rookie
Mattison has looked pedestrian
KJ/TJ - both are just not on their "A games" this year

 If I recall right, the Chiefs made a big move up to top 10/12 to get Mahomes? So nice things can happen to those with the balls to make a move. 

I can almost guarantee the Wilfs will look at it as if we can get an immediate impact player and improve on a deficiency, re-sign Kirk, it puts us right into the contender conversation. Kwesi's seat should be getting warm by that point and he will also be needing immediate impact on the field. The clear defenciencies are along both lines. I could easily see us winning 7 or 8 games, bringing Cousins back on a short extension, and once again taking a swing on a mid round quarterback. I would bet money that's the most likely scenario at this point 

@"supafreak84" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: purgatory sucks and I said as much in another thread...

That said, w/out JJ? The wins will be harder to come by 
Addison is a rookie
Mattison has looked pedestrian
KJ/TJ - both are just not on their "A games" this year

 If I recall right, the Chiefs made a big move up to top 10/12 to get Mahomes? So nice things can happen to those with the balls to make a move. 

I can almost guarantee the Wilfs will look at it as if we can get an immediate impact player and improve on a deficiency, re-sign Kirk, it puts us right into the contender conversation. Kwesi's seat should be getting warm by that point and he will also be needing immediate impact on the field. The clear defenciencies are along both lines. I could easily see us winning 7 or 8 games, bringing Cousins back on a short extension, and once again taking a swing on a mid round quarterback. I would bet money that's the most likely scenario at this point 

@"supafreak84" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: purgatory sucks and I said as much in another thread...

That said, w/out JJ? The wins will be harder to come by 
Addison is a rookie
Mattison has looked pedestrian
KJ/TJ - both are just not on their "A games" this year

 If I recall right, the Chiefs made a big move up to top 10/12 to get Mahomes? So nice things can happen to those with the balls to make a move. 

I can almost guarantee the Wilfs will look at it as if we can get an immediate impact player and improve on a deficiency, re-sign Kirk, it puts us right into the contender conversation. Kwesi's seat should be getting warm by that point and he will also be needing immediate impact on the field. The clear defenciencies are along both lines. I could easily see us winning 7 or 8 games, bringing Cousins back on a short extension, and once again taking a swing on a mid round quarterback. I would bet money that's the most likely scenario at this point 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: purgatory sucks and I said as much in another thread...

That said, w/out JJ? The wins will be harder to come by 
Addison is a rookie
Mattison has looked pedestrian
KJ/TJ - both are just not on their "A games" this year

 If I recall right, the Chiefs made a big move up to top 10/12 to get Mahomes? So nice things can happen to those with the balls to make a move. 

I can almost guarantee the Wilfs will look at it as if we can get an immediate impact player and improve on a deficiency, re-sign Kirk, it puts us right into the contender conversation. Kwesi's seat should be getting warm by that point and he will also be needing immediate impact on the field. The clear defenciencies are along both lines. I could easily see us winning 7 or 8 games, bringing Cousins back on a short extension, and once again taking a swing on a mid round quarterback. I would bet money that's the most likely scenario at this point 

I'm not sure as fans we can continue to put the OL in the same conversation as the DL?

Look at the thread @StickyBun started on OL pff scores. Those guys are really improving - most of them anyhow. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: purgatory sucks and I said as much in another thread...

That said, w/out JJ? The wins will be harder to come by 
Addison is a rookie
Mattison has looked pedestrian
KJ/TJ - both are just not on their "A games" this year

 If I recall right, the Chiefs made a big move up to top 10/12 to get Mahomes? So nice things can happen to those with the balls to make a move. 

I can almost guarantee the Wilfs will look at it as if we can get an immediate impact player and improve on a deficiency, re-sign Kirk, it puts us right into the contender conversation. Kwesi's seat should be getting warm by that point and he will also be needing immediate impact on the field. The clear defenciencies are along both lines. I could easily see us winning 7 or 8 games, bringing Cousins back on a short extension, and once again taking a swing on a mid round quarterback. I would bet money that's the most likely scenario at this point 

I'm not sure as fans we can continue to put the OL in the same conversation as the DL?

Look at the thread @StickyBun started on OL pff scores. Those guys are really improving - most of them anyhow. 

so if we cant blame the OL for the shitty O performances anymore.... now whats the excuse going to be, because the O was shit yesterday.