Putting into context how bad Vikings' 2022 draft was

Love this one:

30. George Karlaftis, DE, Chiefs: 112 sacks, 2 sacks through 2 weeks

Cine and Booth were inactive the first two games.  They aren't even good enough to make ST as starters or backups.  Ingram looks to be an awful pick too.  Yep, Kwesi blew it and looks like the top 3 picks in his first draft are all busts.

We've gone over this, but again it wasn't just the terrible players we drafted. It was also draft trade compensation lost and the players we allowed our division rivals to move up into our spots and acquire. It's right up there with the worst drafts in franchise history IMO..

Looks gross no matter how you slice it. 

@"StickyBun" said: Looks gross no matter how you slice it. 

Even more disappointing when you see most of the players in the 1st two rounds have been very productive.  All we needed to do was stay on course and keep it simple, either take BPA or BPA at position of need, we were moving to a 3-4 and we passed on Davis and then passed on the best safety.  In looking at the videos from that draft Kwesi seemed to be obsessed with trading and it seems like he feels his experience as a stock trader somehow gives him an edge there and seems to pride himself on being a gambler.  Would not want him handling my money!

13. Jordan Davis, DT, Eagles: Monster on the interior D-line
14. Kyle Hamilton, S, Ravens: No. 1 rated safety in NFL by PFF as a rookie

@"JR44" said: Even more disappointing when you see most of the players in the 1st two rounds have been very productive.  All we needed to do was stay on course and keep it simple, either take BPA or BPA at position of need, we were moving to a 3-4 and we passed on Davis and then passed on the best safety.  In looking at the videos from that draft Kwesi seemed to be obsessed with trading and it seems like he feels his experience as a stock trader somehow gives him an edge there and seems to pride himself on being a gambler.  Would not want him handling my money!

13. Jordan Davis, DT, Eagles: Monster on the interior D-line
14. Kyle Hamilton, S, Ravens: No. 1 rated safety in NFL by PFF as a rookie

We had a bottom ranked defense and Kwesi skipped the best safety (and probably safest pick in the draft) and a known monster defensive lineman. 
It was at this moment I knew we were in trouble moving forward. In my opinion, if you trade your 1st round pick anything more than 1 or 2 spots, you are probably in the wrong line of work. There should be several guys you “have” to have if you’re worth anything as an evaluator. 

@"JR44" said: Even more disappointing when you see most of the players in the 1st two rounds have been very productive.  All we needed to do was stay on course and keep it simple, either take BPA or BPA at position of need, we were moving to a 3-4 and we passed on Davis and then passed on the best safety.  In looking at the videos from that draft Kwesi seemed to be obsessed with trading and it seems like he feels his experience as a stock trader somehow gives him an edge there and seems to pride himself on being a gambler.  Would not want him handling my money!

13. Jordan Davis, DT, Eagles: Monster on the interior D-line
14. Kyle Hamilton, S, Ravens: No. 1 rated safety in NFL by PFF as a rookie

At the time I wanted Jordan Davis but would have been content with HamiltonOr we could have even traded up from 12 to 4 for Sauce.
There will be no praise for KAM unless he lands a franchise QB soon.

What might have been? I too was on the Davis train. But we don't need DTs and especially not dominant ones.

Hamilton had me all up his caboose. How we skipped him for Cine will never make sense. 

It seems as if all of these GM's and their staffs have some sort of rules they follow when it comes to the draft. They are also trying to find players to fit their concept of what their team " could " be.
If you pass on players like Davis or Hamilton, you better get compensation for moving down, and hit on your choices.
High draft choices should contribute every year. I support Kwesi, but he is going to have to stop looking for value picks in rounds one and two and try to take the blessing of an early pick.

I honestly believe Kwesi's analytics didn't explain to him that inner division trades are a no-no, especially at the Top of the draft.  

18 months later Kwesi got fleeced in both of his trades.

People are hyperfocusing on a small sample set.

A draft pick is more like a gradient, where they have some
amount of chance of busting, some amount chance of being a contributor, some amount
of chance of being a starter, and some amount chance of being a star.  Every GM draft busts, and any GM that is
around long enough has draft classes that look horrible, but you are hoping
that over many draft picks, your GM is getting more value and more contribution
than all the other GMs. 

Kwesi’s first draft doesn’t look great in hindsight, and it
sucks that his top two picks both had catastrophic season ending injuries early,
but we’re still looking at a very small sample size and his second draft looks
much better.

@"medaille" said: People are hyperfocusing on a small sample set.

A draft pick is more like a gradient, where they have some
amount of chance of busting, some amount chance of being a contributor, some amount
of chance of being a starter, and some amount chance of being a star.  Every GM draft busts, and any GM that is
around long enough has draft classes that look horrible, but you are hoping
that over many draft picks, your GM is getting more value and more contribution
than all the other GMs. 

Kwesi’s first draft doesn’t look great in hindsight, and it
sucks that his top two picks both had catastrophic season ending injuries early,
but we’re still looking at a very small sample size and his second draft looks
much better.

Even if Cine and Booth were fair or average players, how does a team trade up 20 picks in the first round without giving an additional first round pick? I guarantee if we wanted to move up just 10 spots in the first round the price would be double what we got for allowing the Lions to move up 20.

@"FLVike" said:

@"medaille" said: People are hyperfocusing on a small sample set.

A draft pick is more like a gradient, where they have some
amount of chance of busting, some amount chance of being a contributor, some amount
of chance of being a starter, and some amount chance of being a star.  Every GM draft busts, and any GM that is
around long enough has draft classes that look horrible, but you are hoping
that over many draft picks, your GM is getting more value and more contribution
than all the other GMs. 

Kwesi’s first draft doesn’t look great in hindsight, and it
sucks that his top two picks both had catastrophic season ending injuries early,
but we’re still looking at a very small sample size and his second draft looks
much better.

Even if Cine and Booth were fair or average players, how does a team trade up 20 picks in the first round without giving an additional first round pick? I guarantee if we wanted to move up just 10 spots in the first round the price would be double what we got for allowing the Lions to move up 20.

Obviously this is a talker but it’s still early to say this draft is a bust.  in my view Cine, Ingram and Asamoah are the keys and they are all still yet to make a positive impact relative to their draft position 

@"AGRforever" said: Hamilton had me all up his caboose.  

This is year two and we are still waiting. The picks we passed on are contributing on other teams. I understand its a gradient and we have to give it at least three years but man its really hard to hold out hope while seeing players we could have had having an impact on other teams. I wonder how much those players would have developed in year three too.

And then there are the trades…

@"mblack" said: This is year two and we are still waiting. The picks we passed on are contributing on other teams. I understand its a gradient and we have to give it at least three years but man its really hard to hold out hope while seeing players we could have had having an impact on other teams. I wonder how much those players would have developed in year three too.

And then there are the trades…