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Last year at this time the Vikings made a couple of trades involving Jalen Reagor and Ross Blacklock. I suspect we'll make a couple of moves this year as well. 

There are two spots in particular that make me nervous. RB and CB. At RB I think we're fine with Mattison and Chandler. But Kene is hurt and McBride just hasn't shown much IMO. Wouldn't surprise me to see the Vikings add an experienced RB for depth. I think we only keep 4 because we're likely going to want to keep 6 WRs. 

The starting three CBs are set with Murphy, Evans and Blackmon. After that it gets a little dicey. Now, the 4th and 5th corners on most NFL teams are typically not great players, but Joejuan and Booth have been especially bad. Love to see the Vikings add some experience here. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"bigbone62" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"supafreak84" said: Last year's 5th round pick Otomewo...cut
Last year's class looking a little 'eww'. I see the Broncos cut their 4th round LB from last year. 
Crazy as it sounds, there are some on here that will try to sell you it might be one of the best draft classes we've ever had.
Like who says that?

The voices in his head that keep telling him things to reassure him he is a victim and everyone are a bunch of dumb dumbs who pick on him. 



Just because he's paranoid doesn't mean we're not picking on him. 


Can always count on you to pipe up with some dumb shit and you never disappoint Maroon. Just go back to schmoozing us all on how great the 2022 draft class was. That's working out real well for ya


Just don't forget it was ME who said that, Supafriend. So a year or two from now when various internet twatwaffles say "Jiminy Crickets! Nobody could've foreseen..." you'll be there to correct them. "Well..." you'll say with crushing shame and diffidence, "one guy did."  Skol Bruvva.


And that steak dinner bet is still on the table Bruvva...

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"supafreak84" said: Last year's 5th round pick Otomewo...cut
Last year's class looking a little 'eww'. I see the Broncos cut their 4th round LB from last year. 
Crazy as it sounds, there are some on here that will try to sell you it might be one of the best draft classes we've ever had.
Like who says that?
I think it's a helluva lot better than the fucktards give it credit for. According the Daniel Jeremiah, three eventual starters is a successful draft. Four is a home run. Ingram, Asamoah and Evans are all starters this year, with Ty Chandler and Jalen Nailor looking like impactful contributors. 6th rounder Vederian Lowe has a future (albeit on another team now). For a 7th rounder, Nick Muse looks like a decent pick. And this doesn't even count Cine, who will almost certainly be our starting safety when Harry hangs it up. 

If you think that's a bad draft, you need to look around the NFL. Hell, just look at the year before with Mond, Surratt and Wyatt Davis all taken in round three. 



i think by those metrics it should be by say the end of year 3 or 4. ( some positions and players take longer to develop, and ideally you would be drafting to replace guys on your roster that are set to make a huge hit on your cap that you either trade at the end of year 3 for a nice return,  or you let them walk for that comp pick commensurate to their contract)   ,  and that should be actual starters for the team that drafted them.  I dont think a player that is released by the team that drafted him should count as a win for the GM that took him though,  to me that says it was a failed pick because he either didnt need him,  or didnt have the coaching staff in place to develop his talent,  that pick would have been better used on improving a different pick to target a higher rated player,  or used on a player that better fit your team.  I see Vederian as a loss,  we bought him for a 6,  invested a years worth of time and resources into him,  and have a 6 to show for our efforts. sure it was nice to get a pick for a player we were likely to cut,  but lets not lose focus on the fact that he was likely to be cut and once again,  should be viewed as a failed draft pick IMO.

to early to make any declarative statements on last years draft IMO,  except for passing on Hamilton,  mother fucker really screwed the pooch there.  you know how to replace a ring of honor ND safety.... you draft another future ring of honor ND safety. :#  but my therapist says I am going to get past this too.

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@"MaroonBells" said: Braun nails it....


Luke Braun looks like he's 15 years old which explains a lot.  But give him props for calling Thompson. 

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@"supafreak84" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"bigbone62" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"supafreak84" said: Last year's 5th round pick Otomewo...cut
Last year's class looking a little 'eww'. I see the Broncos cut their 4th round LB from last year. 
Crazy as it sounds, there are some on here that will try to sell you it might be one of the best draft classes we've ever had.
Like who says that?

The voices in his head that keep telling him things to reassure him he is a victim and everyone are a bunch of dumb dumbs who pick on him. 



Just because he's paranoid doesn't mean we're not picking on him. 


Can always count on you to pipe up with some dumb shit and you never disappoint Maroon. Just go back to schmoozing us all on how great the 2022 draft class was. That's working out real well for ya


Just don't forget it was ME who said that, Supafriend. So a year or two from now when various internet twatwaffles say "Jiminy Crickets! Nobody could've foreseen..." you'll be there to correct them. "Well..." you'll say with crushing shame and diffidence, "one guy did."  Skol Bruvva.


And that steak dinner bet is still on the table Bruvva...


No, your undying love and admiration is all I need. 

#85 · Aug 29, 4:36 PM
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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"bigbone62" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"supafreak84" said: Last year's 5th round pick Otomewo...cut
Last year's class looking a little 'eww'. I see the Broncos cut their 4th round LB from last year. 
Crazy as it sounds, there are some on here that will try to sell you it might be one of the best draft classes we've ever had.
Like who says that?

The voices in his head that keep telling him things to reassure him he is a victim and everyone are a bunch of dumb dumbs who pick on him. 



Just because he's paranoid doesn't mean we're not picking on him. 


Can always count on you to pipe up with some dumb shit and you never disappoint Maroon. Just go back to schmoozing us all on how great the 2022 draft class was. That's working out real well for ya


Just don't forget it was ME who said that, Supafriend. So a year or two from now when various internet twatwaffles say "Jiminy Crickets! Nobody could've foreseen..." you'll be there to correct them. "Well..." you'll say with crushing shame and diffidence, "one guy did."  Skol Bruvva.


And that steak dinner bet is still on the table Bruvva...


No, your undying love and admiration is all I need. 


You need to find a better steak house....

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"bigbone62" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"supafreak84" said: Last year's 5th round pick Otomewo...cut
Last year's class looking a little 'eww'. I see the Broncos cut their 4th round LB from last year. 
Crazy as it sounds, there are some on here that will try to sell you it might be one of the best draft classes we've ever had.
Like who says that?

The voices in his head that keep telling him things to reassure him he is a victim and everyone are a bunch of dumb dumbs who pick on him. 



Just because he's paranoid doesn't mean we're not picking on him. 


Can always count on you to pipe up with some dumb shit and you never disappoint Maroon. Just go back to schmoozing us all on how great the 2022 draft class was. That's working out real well for ya


Just don't forget it was ME who said that, Supafriend. So a year or two from now when various internet twatwaffles say "Jiminy Crickets! Nobody could've foreseen..." you'll be there to correct them. "Well..." you'll say with crushing shame and diffidence, "one guy did."  Skol Bruvva.


And that steak dinner bet is still on the table Bruvva...


No, your undying love and admiration is all I need. 


...and that's what I thought.

For someone so positive our 2022 draft class is littered with future all-pro's and reminds us every chance he gets, you sure don't sound very confident

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"supafreak84" said: Last year's 5th round pick Otomewo...cut
Last year's class looking a little 'eww'. I see the Broncos cut their 4th round LB from last year. 
Crazy as it sounds, there are some on here that will try to sell you it might be one of the best draft classes we've ever had.
Like who says that?
I think it's a helluva lot better than the fucktards give it credit for. According the Daniel Jeremiah, three eventual starters is a successful draft. Four is a home run. Ingram, Asamoah and Evans are all starters this year, with Ty Chandler and Jalen Nailor looking like impactful contributors. 6th rounder Vederian Lowe has a future (albeit on another team now). For a 7th rounder, Nick Muse looks like a decent pick. And this doesn't even count Cine, who will almost certainly be our starting safety when Harry hangs it up. 

If you think that's a bad draft, you need to look around the NFL. Hell, just look at the year before with Mond, Surratt and Wyatt Davis all taken in round three. 


to early to make any declarative statements on last years draft IMO,  except for passing on Hamilton,  mother fucker really screwed the pooch there.  you know how to replace a ring of honor ND safety.... you draft another future ring of honor ND safety. :#  but my therapist says I am going to get past this too.


I thought the draft broke perfectly for us with Hamilton, Jordan Davis, and Jameson Williams still on the board. I didn't think we could have gone wrong with any of them. Then seeing us trade all the way down....with the fucking Lions...inexplicable 

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Are we getting old draft gripes out of the way? 

Treadwell over my table-pounder Hunter Henry. 
Bradbury over my table-pounder DK Metcalf.
Trade-down over my table-pounder Jordan Davis.
(check the tape)
J-Jets, we agreed. 
     Hallelujah!   (Kanye)  

I feel better.  

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"medaille" said: I'm kind of curious as to how often we'll plan on going big nickel.  It seems like we're much more set at safety than corner.
Agree. I think we'll see big nickel a lot, given the downhill styles of safeties like Harry and Cine. While I like our top two corners, there's little doubt our 3rd and 4th safeties are better than our 3rd and 4th corners. 
Don't you think Flores has a plan for that? After all, I think a gifted coach can see the talent he has and find the best way to use it. I think Flores could be that special coach. But I also would not underestimate the potential the cornerbacks have. Still concerned about pass rush, without the blitz. But I think the back end will be up and down for the first part of the season. I see the offensive and defensive lines as the weak spot once again. If I'm wrong, they could be a pretty good team by playoff time!
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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"bigbone62" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"supafreak84" said: Last year's 5th round pick Otomewo...cut
Last year's class looking a little 'eww'. I see the Broncos cut their 4th round LB from last year. 
Crazy as it sounds, there are some on here that will try to sell you it might be one of the best draft classes we've ever had.
Like who says that?

The voices in his head that keep telling him things to reassure him he is a victim and everyone are a bunch of dumb dumbs who pick on him. 



Just because he's paranoid doesn't mean we're not picking on him. 


Can always count on you to pipe up with some dumb shit and you never disappoint Maroon. Just go back to schmoozing us all on how great the 2022 draft class was. That's working out real well for ya


Just don't forget it was ME who said that, Supafriend. So a year or two from now when various internet twatwaffles say "Jiminy Crickets! Nobody could've foreseen..." you'll be there to correct them. "Well..." you'll say with crushing shame and diffidence, "one guy did."  Skol Bruvva.


And that steak dinner bet is still on the table Bruvva...


No, your undying love and admiration is all I need. 


You guys realize that 4 years from now, or shorter, $50 is going to buy you a goat steak from a food truck!
I enjoy both of you guys here. Unbridled optimism, vs Persistent pessimism. I know that's not necessarily true, but you both research what you post, and you aren't uniformed posters.
I have much more to say on this, but for now, we all want the Vikings to win! So we all have that in common.

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@"BigAl99" said:
@"minny65" said: Cuts from CBS Minnesota Vikings
  • LB William Kwenkeu
  • TE Zach Ojile
  • K Jack Podlesny
  • LB William Kwenkeu (injured)
  • OT Jacky Chen (signed by Texans)
  • T Bobby Evans (signed by Jaguars)
  • WR Cephus Johnson III (signed by Buccaneers)
  • LB Curtis Weaver
  • DT Calvin Avery
  • QB Jordan Ta'amu
  • CB Calen Barnes
  • CB C.J. Coldon Jr.
  • RB Abram Smith
  • CB James Houston
  • TE Colin Thompson
  • LB Wilson Huber
  • G Josh Sokol
  • T Christian DiLauro
  • T Jarrid Williams
  • WR Garett Maag
  • CB Tay Gowan (injured)
  • S Jake Gervase
  • LB Tanner Vallejo
  • WR N'Keal Harry
  • DL Sheldon Day
  • DL Ross Blacklock
  • OL Josh Sokol
  • OT Chim Okorafor

Man our OL is really bad, they cut Josh Sokol twice!



I was sad to see Jackie Chan go.

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@"1VikesFan" said: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1696564209692168540?t=31cmzp7nF5a1z-KAlawu4Q&s=19

Crossing fingers and toes that we get Luiji Vilain through to the PS.

So... what about Nwangwu?  About to get stashed on IR?

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Interesting that there were no moves last night/overnight. Usually there's a bit more tweaking. They going to ride with this roster as is? But really, when you look at what is out there, maybe this is for the best. Pretty yucky leftovers.

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@"StickyBun" said: Interesting that there were no moves last night/overnight. Usually there's a bit more tweaking. They going to ride with this roster as is? But really, when you look at what is out there, maybe this is for the best. Pretty yucky leftovers.


I'm a little surprised by that too. But it still may happen today once the team figures out who clears waivers and who will be on the PS, IR, etc. Team still seems a little thin at RB and CB. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Interesting that there were no moves last night/overnight. Usually there's a bit more tweaking. They going to ride with this roster as is? But really, when you look at what is out there, maybe this is for the best. Pretty yucky leftovers.


I'm a little surprised by that too. But it still may happen today once the team figures out who clears waivers and who will be on the PS, IR, etc. Team still seems a little thin at RB and CB. 


Yes sir, and that was just addressed. Good call out.

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@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1696880451481223324
By all earlier reports regarding a trade option, they could at least got a 6th or 7th draft pick for him?
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@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1696880451481223324
Further proof preseason games barely matter. I guess the trade interest Kwesi probably fabricated didn’t pan out  :s.
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@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1696880451481223324
Further proof preseason games barely matter. I guess the trade interest Kwesi probably fabricated didn’t pan out  :s.
I think that's exactly it. When it's reported by Ian Rapoport it's meant to go league wide. 
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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"pattersaur" said:
@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1696880451481223324
Further proof preseason games barely matter. I guess the trade interest Kwesi probably fabricated didn’t pan out  :s.
I think that's exactly it. When it's reported by Ian Rapoport it's meant to go league wide. 
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