Chandler isn’t it.

I really like Chandler, think he is a very capable, versatile backup.  OL is garbage tonight and he is getting hit as soon as he gets the ball, but if he has any kind of opening he does a great job of slicing through it.  He has also been open in the flat consistently tonight and Mullens not looking for him at all. 

Those runs up the middle suck, there is no blocking 

@"Vikergirl" said: Those runs up the middle suck, there is no blocking 

@"kmillard" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: Those runs up the middle suck, there is no blocking 

Where have I seen that before?

Again I ask: what the hell good is preseason for? You can't tell a damn thing about anything. Its a shit show.

@"StickyBun" said: Again I ask: what the hell good is preseason for? You can't tell a damn thing about anything. Its a shit show.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Again I ask: what the hell good is preseason for? You can't tell a damn thing about anything. Its a shit show.

You can tell your back up plan isn't very good,   now just pray your primary plan is much much better.

Preseason games seem to become more and more meaningless with every passing year. A few years ago, the 3rd game was the game you could see the starters for a series or two. Now very few teams expose their starters or their schemes in any of these games. Since we're talking about 90 man rosters that means about half of the players on the field last night will not make NFL rosters. 

Cut it to two games or eliminate it entirely and do this shit in joint practices. 

Well most here have been watching football long enough to know 12 and 23 are not good.

@"MaroonBells" said: Preseason games seem to become more and more meaningless with every passing year. A few years ago, the 3rd game was the game you could see the starters for a series or two. Now very few teams expose their starters or their schemes in any of these games. Since we're talking about 90 man rosters that means about half of the players on the field last night will not make NFL rosters. 

Cut it to two games or eliminate it entirely and do this shit in joint practices. 

@"AGRforever" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Preseason games seem to become more and more meaningless with every passing year. A few years ago, the 3rd game was the game you could see the starters for a series or two. Now very few teams expose their starters or their schemes in any of these games. Since we're talking about 90 man rosters that means about half of the players on the field last night will not make NFL rosters. 

Cut it to two games or eliminate it entirely and do this shit in joint practices. 

Joint practices dont bill season ticket holders for 1-2 extra games a year. 

As a season tix holder I hate paying for pre-season. I just give the tix away, not going to give that caliber of play/player my valuable time to park, drive etc.

As far as Chandler goes, can you really tell s hit behind that OL?

I suspect he'll be just fine as a #2 behind the starters. 

Honestly, I have more question marks about MAttison bringing explosion to the running game with Cook gone. 

@"purplefaithful" said: As a season tix holder I hate paying for pre-season. I just give the tix away, not going to give that caliber of play/player my valuable time to park, drive etc.

As far as Chandler goes, can you really tell s hit behind that OL?

I suspect he'll be just fine as a #2 behind the starters. 

Honestly, I have more question marks about MAttison bringing explosion to the running game with Cook gone. 

We'll just have to wait and see on that. Vea, Gaines and Kancey week one is a tall order and will tell us a lot. 

@"StickyBun" said: Again I ask: what the hell good is preseason for? You can't tell a damn thing about anything. Its a shit show.

I barely watch any preseason most years and never really feel that I missed anything.  Hyped up guys in August mostly are looking for a job in September. 
 
The team that opens up in game one of the season never resembles what you saw in preseason in the slightest way, especially now that starters don't even take a snap before then.  Which is why people getting in a tizzy about the upcoming season based on August action is just comic relief.  We'll know what we really have around early October.

I was shocked that Mahomes and Allen actually played yesterday and that Rodgers is going to play in the Jets final preseason game.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: As a season tix holder I hate paying for pre-season. I just give the tix away, not going to give that caliber of play/player my valuable time to park, drive etc.

As far as Chandler goes, can you really tell s hit behind that OL?

I suspect he'll be just fine as a #2 behind the starters. 

Honestly, I have more question marks about MAttison bringing explosion to the running game with Cook gone. 

Agreed. We will lose the explosive factor that Cook brought. But I think what KOC also wanted was to run the ball more effectively in short yardage in order to sustain drives and keep the defense off the field, something Cook wasn't especially good at.

We'll just have to wait and see on that. Vea, Gaines and Kancey week one is a tall order and will tell us a lot. 

@"supafreak84" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: As a season tix holder I hate paying for pre-season. I just give the tix away, not going to give that caliber of play/player my valuable time to park, drive etc.

As far as Chandler goes, can you really tell s hit behind that OL?

I suspect he'll be just fine as a #2 behind the starters. 

Honestly, I have more question marks about MAttison bringing explosion to the running game with Cook gone. 

Agreed. We will lose the explosive factor that Cook brought. But I think what KOC also wanted was to run the ball more effectively in short yardage in order to sustain drives and keep the defense off the field, something Cook wasn't especially good at.

We'll just have to wait and see on that. Vea, Gaines and Kancey week one is a tall order and will tell us a lot. 

Was he not especially good at it, or in reality were we just having a lot of the same interior run problems along the offensive line that we've seen in training camp and preseason thus far? Dalvin has never been a dancer and I'd say I saw more of the latter last year. Mattison better buckle up his chin strap...

@"1VikesFan" said: I was shocked that Mahomes and Allen actually played yesterday and that Rodgers is going to play in the Jets final preseason game.

I can understand teams not wanting to play their QB, but it has gone way too far with all these marginal starters not playing as well, these guys need the reps and many are not much better if any than the guys playing.  

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: As a season tix holder I hate paying for pre-season. I just give the tix away, not going to give that caliber of play/player my valuable time to park, drive etc.

As far as Chandler goes, can you really tell s hit behind that OL?

I suspect he'll be just fine as a #2 behind the starters. 

Honestly, I have more question marks about MAttison bringing explosion to the running game with Cook gone. 

Agreed. We will lose the explosive factor that Cook brought. But I think what KOC also wanted was to run the ball more effectively in short yardage in order to sustain drives and keep the defense off the field, something Cook wasn't especially good at.

We'll just have to wait and see on that. Vea, Gaines and Kancey week one is a tall order and will tell us a lot. 

Was he not especially good at it, or in reality were we just having a lot of the same interior run problems along the offensive line that we've seen in training camp and preseason thus far? Dalvin has never been a dancer and I'd say I saw more of the latter last year. Mattison better buckle up his chin strap...

Don't know. No one has seen either Mattison or the starting line yet this year.

But if I need a yard and I'm running wide zone behind Darrisaw, I'm going to prefer a runner who doesn't spend a lot of time behind the line of scrimmage. 

@"supafreak84" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: As a season tix holder I hate paying for pre-season. I just give the tix away, not going to give that caliber of play/player my valuable time to park, drive etc.

As far as Chandler goes, can you really tell s hit behind that OL?

I suspect he'll be just fine as a #2 behind the starters. 

Honestly, I have more question marks about MAttison bringing explosion to the running game with Cook gone. 

Agreed. We will lose the explosive factor that Cook brought. But I think what KOC also wanted was to run the ball more effectively in short yardage in order to sustain drives and keep the defense off the field, something Cook wasn't especially good at.

We'll just have to wait and see on that. Vea, Gaines and Kancey week one is a tall order and will tell us a lot. 

Was he not especially good at it, or in reality were we just having a lot of the same interior run problems along the offensive line that we've seen in training camp and preseason thus far? Dalvin has never been a dancer and I'd say I saw more of the latter last year. Mattison better buckle up his chin strap...

Don't know. No one has seen either Mattison or the starting line yet this year.

But if I need a yard and I'm running wide zone behind Darrisaw, I'm going to prefer a runner who doesn't spend a lot of time behind the line of scrimmage. 

Dalvin is one of the quickest, most explosive backs in the league (and a wide zone specialist). My concern is if we are allowing penetration and Cook was getting tackled in the backfield regularly, what do you think happens to Mattison who is the more lumbering player? Going to be interesting to track the running game this year