Dalvin Cook going to Chiefs
could still happen, you never know… ;) B)
They dont need Cook and they certainly dont need his salary.
This looked funkie the minute I read the OP
@"purplefaithful" said: They dont need Cook and they certainly dont need his salary.This looked funkie the minute I read the OP
Yeah, didn't seem like a fit.
Maybe it was Adam Schetfer
Was listening to Soloman Wilcots and Shane Vareen on NFL Radio this morning talking about the NFC North. Both said who they favor in the division has a lot to do if Dalvin Cook is on the Vikings or not. Said it would be a huge mistake to get rid of the second biggest weapon on our offense and starting the season with "one hand tied behind our backs" makes zero sense if we are aspiring to win the division again. Said it's foolish to think Maddison, Chandler or anybody in our backfield is capable of doing the same things Cook does and he is a consensus top 5 running back.
Basically saying what I've been saying since this talk of getting rid of him started. Hope it doesn't happen but it sounds like a forgone conclusion
@"supafreak84" said: Was listening to Soloman Wilcots and Shane Vareen on NFL Radio this morning talking about the NFC North. Both said who they favor in the division has a lot to do if Dalvin Cook is on the Vikings or not. Said it would be a huge mistake to get rid of the second biggest weapon on our offense and starting the season with "one hand tied behind our backs" makes zero sense if we are aspiring to win the division again. Said it's foolish to think Maddison, Chandler or anybody in our backfield is capable of doing the same things Cook does and he is a consensus top 5 running back.Basically saying what I've been saying since this talk of getting rid of him started. Hope it doesn't happen but it sounds like a forgone conclusion
He's the best RB on this team, so to your point to those that think we won't miss Cook: not true. To what degree remains to be seen. Tough decision for the Vikings, but he's gone for sure.
@"StickyBun" said:@"supafreak84" said: Was listening to Soloman Wilcots and Shane Vareen on NFL Radio this morning talking about the NFC North. Both said who they favor in the division has a lot to do if Dalvin Cook is on the Vikings or not. Said it would be a huge mistake to get rid of the second biggest weapon on our offense and starting the season with "one hand tied behind our backs" makes zero sense if we are aspiring to win the division again. Said it's foolish to think Maddison, Chandler or anybody in our backfield is capable of doing the same things Cook does and he is a consensus top 5 running back.Basically saying what I've been saying since this talk of getting rid of him started. Hope it doesn't happen but it sounds like a forgone conclusion
He's the best RB on this team, so to your point to those that think we won't miss Cook: not true. To what degree remains to be seen. Tough decision for the Vikings, but he's gone for sure.
Yeah, I don't get all this "if" talk. Cook will be traded or released after June 1st and the Vikings will go to more of a committee backfield with Mattison, Chandler and McBride.I'm not one of these "Mattison is better than Cook" dupes. I was all for giving Cook his money. The timing was right and it wasn't likely he'd see the end of it. Well here we are, and no he's not. I don't know whether it was his shoulder or what, but he did seem to lose a little juice last year.
It's just time to move on. RBs just aren't what they used to be. You can get one for a bag of peanuts these days. Kareem Hunt is still out there. So is Ezekiel Elliot.
Not happy to lose Cook either, I think he was injured last year and will bounce back. Unfortunately with another team.
@"purplefaithful" said: Not happy to lose Cook either, I think he was injured last year and will bounce back. Unfortunately with another team.Agree....depends on where he ends up, but he could explode. Some team is going to get a steal.
Dalvin did look a bit off last year but he definitely still has juice. Plus an "off" year for him was still 1,400 yards I believe. I know the odds are slim but I'd still like to see him back if the plan is to make another run for a division title. The other guys we have are just big question marks to me.
@"StickyBun" said:@"supafreak84" said: Was listening to Soloman Wilcots and Shane Vareen on NFL Radio this morning talking about the NFC North. Both said who they favor in the division has a lot to do if Dalvin Cook is on the Vikings or not. Said it would be a huge mistake to get rid of the second biggest weapon on our offense and starting the season with "one hand tied behind our backs" makes zero sense if we are aspiring to win the division again. Said it's foolish to think Maddison, Chandler or anybody in our backfield is capable of doing the same things Cook does and he is a consensus top 5 running back.Basically saying what I've been saying since this talk of getting rid of him started. Hope it doesn't happen but it sounds like a forgone conclusion
He's the best RB on this team, so to your point to those that think we won't miss Cook: not true. To what degree remains to be seen. Tough decision for the Vikings, but he's gone for sure.
I just don't get it. We bring in Josh Oliver to help us run the football better and KOC talks about wanting to run the ball more, so why are we getting rid of our best runner and one of the best runners in the game still in his prime? I understand the money aspect, but if we are legitimately trying to win the division, then you find a way to keep a guy like Cook.
@"supafreak84" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"supafreak84" said: Was listening to Soloman Wilcots and Shane Vareen on NFL Radio this morning talking about the NFC North. Both said who they favor in the division has a lot to do if Dalvin Cook is on the Vikings or not. Said it would be a huge mistake to get rid of the second biggest weapon on our offense and starting the season with "one hand tied behind our backs" makes zero sense if we are aspiring to win the division again. Said it's foolish to think Maddison, Chandler or anybody in our backfield is capable of doing the same things Cook does and he is a consensus top 5 running back.Basically saying what I've been saying since this talk of getting rid of him started. Hope it doesn't happen but it sounds like a forgone conclusion
He's the best RB on this team, so to your point to those that think we won't miss Cook: not true. To what degree remains to be seen. Tough decision for the Vikings, but he's gone for sure.
I just don't get it. We bring in Josh Oliver to help us run the football better and KOC talks about wanting to run the ball more, so why are we getting rid of our best runner and one of the best runners in the game still in his prime? I understand the money aspect, but if we are legitimately trying to win the division, then you find a way to keep a guy like Cook.
Not sure about that. Like I said, we'll miss Cook for sure, but to what degree. At the same time we'll miss his home runs, Mattison will blast for more 1st downs on short yardage and wear down a defense hammering their ass all day. He's not the RB Cook is, but at least he brings a few differences.
I suspect Cookies shoulder is damaged and will never be the same. If true, his YAContact will nit improve much.
We need to get positive yards in our run game, 2nd and ten and 3rd and 8 put too much pressure on the passing game.
@"Bullazin" said: I suspect Cookies shoulder is damaged and will never be the same. If true, his YAContact will nit improve much.We need to get positive yards in our run game, 2nd and ten and 3rd and 8 put too much pressure on the passing game.
If it's a shoulder concern this does make sense. 100%. If it's a moneyball approach of, "we can replace him by committee" then I'm skeptical. For years this board has said Mattison could start for other teams-- what teams, exactly? He stayed in MIN for a cheap deal. That tells me that NFL teams see him the same way I do. Fine player but not in any way a difference maker. JJ and Hock better be ready to go BIG big if Cook is gone (I do think they are).
@"StickyBun" said:@"supafreak84" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"supafreak84" said: Was listening to Soloman Wilcots and Shane Vareen on NFL Radio this morning talking about the NFC North. Both said who they favor in the division has a lot to do if Dalvin Cook is on the Vikings or not. Said it would be a huge mistake to get rid of the second biggest weapon on our offense and starting the season with "one hand tied behind our backs" makes zero sense if we are aspiring to win the division again. Said it's foolish to think Maddison, Chandler or anybody in our backfield is capable of doing the same things Cook does and he is a consensus top 5 running back.Basically saying what I've been saying since this talk of getting rid of him started. Hope it doesn't happen but it sounds like a forgone conclusion
He's the best RB on this team, so to your point to those that think we won't miss Cook: not true. To what degree remains to be seen. Tough decision for the Vikings, but he's gone for sure.
I just don't get it. We bring in Josh Oliver to help us run the football better and KOC talks about wanting to run the ball more, so why are we getting rid of our best runner and one of the best runners in the game still in his prime? I understand the money aspect, but if we are legitimately trying to win the division, then you find a way to keep a guy like Cook.
Not sure about that. Like I said, we'll miss Cook for sure, but to what degree. At the same time we'll miss his home runs, Mattison will blast for more 1st downs on short yardage and wear down a defense hammering their ass all day. He's not the RB Cook is, but at least he brings a few differences.
In a perfect world, you keep Cook and Mattison. But we have to cut somewhere and RB is the best option to gain savings at the least loss of production.
@"StickyBun" said:@"supafreak84" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"supafreak84" said: Was listening to Soloman Wilcots and Shane Vareen on NFL Radio this morning talking about the NFC North. Both said who they favor in the division has a lot to do if Dalvin Cook is on the Vikings or not. Said it would be a huge mistake to get rid of the second biggest weapon on our offense and starting the season with "one hand tied behind our backs" makes zero sense if we are aspiring to win the division again. Said it's foolish to think Maddison, Chandler or anybody in our backfield is capable of doing the same things Cook does and he is a consensus top 5 running back.Basically saying what I've been saying since this talk of getting rid of him started. Hope it doesn't happen but it sounds like a forgone conclusion
He's the best RB on this team, so to your point to those that think we won't miss Cook: not true. To what degree remains to be seen. Tough decision for the Vikings, but he's gone for sure.
I just don't get it. We bring in Josh Oliver to help us run the football better and KOC talks about wanting to run the ball more, so why are we getting rid of our best runner and one of the best runners in the game still in his prime? I understand the money aspect, but if we are legitimately trying to win the division, then you find a way to keep a guy like Cook.
Not sure about that. Like I said, we'll miss Cook for sure, but to what degree. At the same time we'll miss his home runs, Mattison will blast for more 1st downs on short yardage and wear down a defense hammering their ass all day. He's not the RB Cook is, but at least he brings a few differences.
We don't know what Mattison is in a full time roll, however we know Cook is an elite running back who is going to get upwards of 1500 yards in total offense every season and double digit touchdowns. Cook is an excellent pass catcher and a home run threat. Mattison isn't any of those. Our offense becomes much less worrisome for opposing defenses without Davin Cook, which was the point being discussed by Wilcots and Vareen and why they would favor the Lions to win the division over a Cook-less Vikings team.If he is "damaged goods" that's one thing, but by most accounts that doesn't seem to be the case. If KOC wants to continue transforming us into the Midwest Rams and throw the ball all over the field with running the ball being an afterthought, then fine. But you bring in Oliver specifically to play more big boy ball and run the football, so again, how does moving on from your best runner and second best weapon on offense make any sense? Wilcots was completely befuddled how getting rid of Cook was even a conversation, much less a reality.
Saw a rumor regarding Diggs saying he wouldn’t mind a return to Minnesota now that Zimmer is gone.
Post-June 1st, the money would work for a Cook-Diggs swap. I don’t care who the running back is if we’re watching Jefferson, Diggs, Hockenson, and Addison in the passing game.
Obviously it isn’t going to happen for any number of reasons, but we can dream.
@"claykenny" said: Saw a rumor regarding Diggs saying he wouldn’t mind a return to Minnesota now that Zimmer is gone.Post-June 1st, the money would work for a Cook-Diggs swap. I don’t care who the running back is if we’re watching Jefferson, Diggs, Hockenson, and Addison in the passing game.
Obviously it isn’t going to happen for any number of reasons, but we can dream.
Wouldn't that be interesting... B)
Hold the phone....
Dalvin Cook may be softening on his unwillingness to take a pay cut, in order to stay with the #Vikings. https://t.co/xRtg2ie5vI
— Minnesota Sports Fan (@realmnsportsfan) May 26, 2023
Word is he really loves Minnesota.
@"StickyBun" said: Hold the phone....Dalvin Cook may be softening on his unwillingness to take a pay cut, in order to stay with the #Vikings. https://t.co/xRtg2ie5vI
— Minnesota Sports Fan (@realmnsportsfan) May 26, 2023Word is he really loves Minnesota.
Love to have him back. Money's there. And if he's willing to take a pay cut, even better.
But I think it's unlikely. Vikings are already paying Mattison low-end starter money. And the Vikings could use the cash to either sign another defender, or give them slack in the numerous extensions pending.
its time to move on, this team isnt a contender this year, and DC is at the end of his shelf life. He may still have a bright spot or two left in his career, but as a bell cow back IMO his days are over. better to get rid of him a year early than a year to late.
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