Vikes wanted Bryce Young
...or so it sounds, according to Pelissero. If this is true, I think it's good news for a few reasons: It wasn't for CJ Stroud (bullet dodged IMO); they weren't swayed by Richardson's HWS (too boom or bust); they value character very highly; and they won't hesitate to move up big and get their guy next year.
The #Vikings were making calls about moving up "very high" in the draft and had the idea to do so if Bryce Young didn't get selected with the first overall pick, according to @TomPelissero.
— vikesinsider (@vikesinsider) May 9, 2023
"My understanding is that it was for one player, and that was Bryce Young.” pic.twitter.com/zMTFrmF5SS
I would love to know what they were prepared to give up to go that high.
How bad could their intel be after the Panthers spent a boatload to move up to #1 a few weeks before the draft and pretty much telegraphed their intent to take him? "Oh they don't really mean it, let's make some calls!"
I thought the media river of pure b.s. about what the Vikings would do in the draft would cease flowing once the draft took place, but apparently that cow can be milked even after it's left the barn.
I think this is majorly overblown. They weren't moving up to the top 2 or 3 pick to get him. No way. If he fell a bit more, then maybe. But I'm sure a ton of other teams 'liked' him as well.
Is there anyone involved in the draft or the NFL that didn't know the Panthers were taking Young? I don't see any way this could be true and if it was it would be extremely worrisome that Kwesi was that clueless.
Let's do this all again next year as Kirko will have presumably not been resigned & sports media will be linking the Vikes to all the hot QB draft prospects.
I think everyone's missing the point here. The point is that the Vikings wanted Bryce Young and only Bryce Young. And not Anthony Richardson who was the rumored target.
And yes, of course it was possible the Panthers took another guy.
@"Knucklehead" said: Let's do this all again next year as Kirko will have presumably not been resigned & sports media will be linking the Vikes to all the hot QB draft prospects.Vikes will be linked to all the hot QB prospects until they find one, whether they extend Kirk or not.
@"MaroonBells" said: I think everyone's missing the point here. The point is that the Vikings wanted Bryce Young and only Bryce Young. And not Anthony Richardson who was the rumored target.And yes, of course it was possible the Panthers took another guy.
Yeah, I get that but at the same time, that doesn't mean they were/are right about Richardson. Or Stroud. I think Young was everyone's consensus #1 QB prospect. Moving up from #23 to say #2 if Carolina passed was a pipe dream anyway. IMO, its just a garbage sports story.
@"StickyBun" said:@"MaroonBells" said: I think everyone's missing the point here. The point is that the Vikings wanted Bryce Young and only Bryce Young. And not Anthony Richardson who was the rumored target.And yes, of course it was possible the Panthers took another guy.
Yeah, I get that but at the same time, that doesn't mean they were/are right about Richardson. Or Stroud. I think Young was everyone's consensus #1 QB prospect. Moving up from #23 to say #2 if Carolina passed was a pipe dream anyway. IMO, its just a garbage sports story.
I think it's possible they knew Houston was all in on Stroud. And if the Panthers took Richardson, which was rumored late, the Vikings could trade up with the Cards at #3, who they knew wanted to trade down, and actually did.No, of course it's not a major story. Just some behind the scenes draft intel. But for folks like me who follow the draft, and the Vikings, it's fascinating. And for someone who's also moderately convinced that both Richardson and Stroud will be busts, more than just a little bit encouraging.
I’m glad the Vikings liked Young I guess, but so did almost every other team?
If the Vikings are serious about wanting the #1 prospect in the draft, then winning 13 games isn’t the way to go about it. Not saying that’s a bad thing at all— winning is great— but having our cake and getting to eat it too seems unlikely.
@"pattersaur" said: I’m glad the Vikings liked Young I guess, but so did almost every other team?If the Vikings are serious about wanting the #1 prospect in the draft, then winning 13 games isn’t the way to go about it. Not saying that’s a bad thing at all— winning is great— but having our cake and getting to eat it too seems unlikely.
they dont have to tank a season, but they could start making some moves for the future that would make it easier to make the move up on draft day when they do decide who they want to take a shot with. keeping aging veterans until they are over paid and no longer in demand is not working, they need to face the reality of the roster they have and be moving players while they still have value, but will likely be past their prime in the next year or two.
@"StickyBun" said:@"MaroonBells" said: I think everyone's missing the point here. The point is that the Vikings wanted Bryce Young and only Bryce Young. And not Anthony Richardson who was the rumored target.And yes, of course it was possible the Panthers took another guy.
Yeah, I get that but at the same time, that doesn't mean they were/are right about Richardson. Or Stroud. I think Young was everyone's consensus #1 QB prospect. Moving up from #23 to say #2 if Carolina passed was a pipe dream anyway. IMO, its just a garbage sports story.
It could be a false report. TCO p.r. to sooth fans upset that they didn't take Levis. "Oh we only wanted the very best, dear fans". Nevermind his large bust potential lol. Makes more sense than leaking out implausible trade concepts 2 weeks after the draft.
I knew Young was the best when he SHREDDED UGA's top ranked D 2 yrs ago.
Man, the talent on the field in this game.
https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcQdcvu6YfQ
@"comet52" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"MaroonBells" said: I think everyone's missing the point here. The point is that the Vikings wanted Bryce Young and only Bryce Young. And not Anthony Richardson who was the rumored target.And yes, of course it was possible the Panthers took another guy.
Yeah, I get that but at the same time, that doesn't mean they were/are right about Richardson. Or Stroud. I think Young was everyone's consensus #1 QB prospect. Moving up from #23 to say #2 if Carolina passed was a pipe dream anyway. IMO, its just a garbage sports story.
It could be a false report. TCO p.r. to sooth fans upset that they didn't take Levis. "Oh we only wanted the very best, dear fans". Nevermind his large bust potential lol. Makes more sense than leaking out implausible trade concepts 2 weeks after the draft.
Maybe but if Levis is a good/great pro than fans will and should be annoyed, regardless.
I’m guessing the whole thing was subterfuge (from the
pre-draft reports to this one). I feel
like there was way too much smoke out there for it to have been an organic
leak. Somebody was pushing for it to be
out there. I think this is just a way of
saying, “Hey we tried to get a QB” in a way that no one can really fact check
nor is likely to blow up in their face.
They can pretend that they were really invested in the process of
getting a top QB, but it just didn’t work out, and they can fall back on their
still really good QB.
That said, this seems kind of worthless reporting to me. It was far too unrealistic for them to
actually trade up to 3ish and also depending on their only preferred player dropping
(which often is also at the top of other teams boards). I think they were more likely targeting whatever
they could reach by giving up the 2024 first and a day 2-3 pick, if one of the
top tier QBs fell, and if that didn’t work out you try to sooth the unhappy fans
who wanted to move on (regardless of how unrealistic it was).
Getting a QB while also being in the 2nd half of
the draft is always going to depend on some luck of players dropping, and that’s
ok, but this is just weird marketing.
@"pattersaur" said:@"comet52" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"MaroonBells" said: I think everyone's missing the point here. The point is that the Vikings wanted Bryce Young and only Bryce Young. And not Anthony Richardson who was the rumored target.And yes, of course it was possible the Panthers took another guy.
Yeah, I get that but at the same time, that doesn't mean they were/are right about Richardson. Or Stroud. I think Young was everyone's consensus #1 QB prospect. Moving up from #23 to say #2 if Carolina passed was a pipe dream anyway. IMO, its just a garbage sports story.
It could be a false report. TCO p.r. to sooth fans upset that they didn't take Levis. "Oh we only wanted the very best, dear fans". Nevermind his large bust potential lol. Makes more sense than leaking out implausible trade concepts 2 weeks after the draft.
Maybe but if Levis is a good/great pro than fans will and should be annoyed, regardless.
You can’t eat bananas whole and be a good quarterback in the NFL don’t you know that
@"Knucklehead" said: Let's do this all again next year as Kirko will have presumably not been resigned & sports media will be linking the Vikes to all the hot QB draft prospects.
If we trade D. Cook then we can take that pick along with our pick which could be around 15-20 and move up for once.
@"FLVike" said:@"Knucklehead" said: Let's do this all again next year as Kirko will have presumably not been resigned & sports media will be linking the Vikes to all the hot QB draft prospects.If we trade D. Cook then we can take that pick along with our pick which could be around 15-20 and move up for once.
you arent going to get shit for Cook, late day 2 at best most likely day 3. If you want draft capital you need to be willing to move pieces that are more in demand, Hunter is likely our best trade bait at this point without going into the OL or WR rooms. ( of course there is always that one guy, but heads explode when you mention trading him, and he is already on the last year of his contract which would make any compensation lower as he would have to agree to a new contract with who ever he would accept a trade to. )
What if Malik Willis could be part of a deal for Cook, would that make a day 2 or 3 pick look better. With Tannehill and Levis on board have heard some speculation that Willis may be available.
@"BigAl99" said: What if Malik Willis could be part of a deal for Cook, would that make a day 2 or 3 pick look better. With Tannehill and Levis on board have heard some speculation that Willis may be available.
Jaren Hall is probably a better prospect at this point than Willis. (IMO)
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