Schedule changes for this season
Among the changes to the schedule this season:
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) May 8, 2023
🏈NFL will have a Black Friday game for the first time ever.
🏈Games don’t necessarily “belong” to networks anymore. All games are free agents.
🏈Teams can be on Thursday Night Football twice.
🏈Not all teams are guaranteed to…
You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. — Robin Williams
TNF sucks so lets throw a Friday game into the mix.
Thursday night football games suck. They should be limited to Thanksgiving or special occasions. Players hate it, most fans hate it, fantasy football dudes hate it. There's not enough rest and recovery time and most of the games are dog crap. But it's typical NFL to take something good and overextend it or ruin it in pursuit of the almighty dollar. I'm still waiting on an NFL Draft Lottery....I know it's coming
TNF games do stink, but I watch them all.
I don’t really like that teams don’t belong to Fox or CBS anymore. Most announcers will now know about half as much.
Bring it on. Saturate me in NFL games.
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1655674005263622197?t=U1pCC5KPMULuf7zHO-k-ng&s=19Putting a game on Black Friday will undoubtedly draw big advertising dollars.
For me, I like football being on Sundays. I have more intense focus on the league if it’s
concentrated. Already any non-Vikings
MNF or TNF games, just don’t exist to me, whereas I’m causally paying attention
to the games I can’t get on TV during Sundays.
Black Friday acts kind of like a holiday game for me, where there’s a
reasonable chance that I’m at one of my family members house and the game would
probably be on in the background, where we would actually watch commercials. There’s also a good chance we’d be driving
during that time and would miss it completely.
@"supafreak84" said: Thursday night football games suck. They should be limited to Thanksgiving or special occasions. Players hate it, most fans hate it, fantasy football dudes hate it. There's not enough rest and recovery time and most of the games are dog crap. But it's typical NFL to take something good and overextend it or ruin it in pursuit of the almighty dollar. I'm still waiting on an NFL Draft Lottery....I know it's coming
If the 2 teams scheduled to to play on TNF were both coming OFF a BYE all the issues get fixed.
It would also eliminate the advantage of 1 team coming off a BYE playing a team that played the weekend before.
@"Mattyman" said:@"supafreak84" said: Thursday night football games suck. They should be limited to Thanksgiving or special occasions. Players hate it, most fans hate it, fantasy football dudes hate it. There's not enough rest and recovery time and most of the games are dog crap. But it's typical NFL to take something good and overextend it or ruin it in pursuit of the almighty dollar. I'm still waiting on an NFL Draft Lottery....I know it's coming
If the 2 teams scheduled to to play on TNF were both coming OFF a BYE all the issues get fixed.
It would also eliminate the advantage of 1 team coming off a BYE playing a team that played the weekend before.
Yes although that would take some fancy scheduling. To me, Thursday nights were always for college football. Friday nights were for high school football, and I liked my NFL on Sundays, Mondays, and the occasional Saturday after the college season ended. I don't need or want the NFL four nights a week when it makes for a watered down product, increases player injury risk, and are just sloppy games due to a lack of rest time and game planning. It just goes to show the NFL will do anything to make a buck, even at the expense of their own product. Like I said, I'm just waiting for the huge televised NFL Draft Lottery to come next and the ratings and marketing the NFL would get off it. I think what they've turned the draft into is a complete joke so it would be par for the course.
@"MaroonBells" said:No doubt and money is all they care about@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1655674005263622197?t=U1pCC5KPMULuf7zHO-k-ng&s=19 Putting a game on Black Friday will undoubtedly draw big advertising dollars.
Oh for dumb. I find myself caring less each year for the NFL product as a whole. I still watch the Vikings games, but due to shit announcers, shitty game times, and other matters, I just am not as engaged as I once was, and these changes will do nothing to address that.
@"JimmyinSD" said: Oh for dumb. I find myself caring less each year for the NFL product as a whole. I still watch the Vikings games, but due to shit announcers, shitty game times, and other matters, I just am not as engaged as I once was, and these changes will do nothing to address that.I care less now as well, but its mostly because of getting older, more mature (maybe) and just having more perspective on not putting so much emotional energy into the NFL like I did 20+ years ago. As I've mentioned, I'm very fair weather now. I'll turn off a shitty Viking's game and watch Redzone Channel in a nano-second. Some of that is also due to being a jaded, long-suffering fan of the Vikings: its taken a toll.
Also the realization that you and I aren't the NFL's target demo any longer. They don't cater to us and really don't give a shit about older fans. But that can be said for all professional sports. You age out of it as far as marketing and rules changes go. You're 55+ years old and don't like something the league is doing for the NFL? Yawn. They don't care (although I think you are younger than that, jimmy, if I remember right?).
Regardless, I enjoy the Redzone Channel a ton. Its better for my attention span. But I have the gotten the NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV, so I'll be watching them.
@"StickyBun" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Oh for dumb. I find myself caring less each year for the NFL product as a whole. I still watch the Vikings games, but due to shit announcers, shitty game times, and other matters, I just am not as engaged as I once was, and these changes will do nothing to address that. I care less now as well, but its mostly because of getting older, more mature (maybe) and just having more perspective on not putting so much emotional energy into the NFL like I did 20+ years ago. As I've mentioned, I'm very fair weather now. I'll turn off a shitty Viking's game and watch Redzone Channel in a nano-second. Some of that is also due to being a jaded, long-suffering fan of the Vikings: its taken a toll.Also the realization that you and I aren't the NFL's target demo any longer. They don't cater to us and really don't give a shit about older fans. But that can be said for all professional sports. You age out of it as far as marketing and rules changes go. You're 55+ years old and don't like something the league is doing for the NFL? Yawn. They don't care (although I think you are younger than that, jimmy, if I remember right?).
Regardless, I enjoy the Redzone Channel a ton. Its better for my attention span. But I have the gotten the NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV, so I'll be watching them.
I wonder if they know who their target market even is anymore.
@"JimmyinSD" said: Oh for dumb. I find myself caring less each year for the NFL product as a whole. I still watch the Vikings games, but due to shit announcers, shitty game times, and other matters, I just am not as engaged as I once was, and these changes will do nothing to address that.Just curious, what’s wrong with the gametimes? Or do you mean TNF? I guess there’s some London games too but I sorta like having the occassional dogcrud 8:30am game to throw on.
Plus as far as football goes, CFB is way more oversaturated than NFL.
@"pattersaur" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Oh for dumb. I find myself caring less each year for the NFL product as a whole. I still watch the Vikings games, but due to shit announcers, shitty game times, and other matters, I just am not as engaged as I once was, and these changes will do nothing to address that. Just curious, what’s wrong with the gametimes? Or do you mean TNF? I guess there’s some London games too but I sorta like having the occassional dogcrud 8:30am game to throw on.Plus as far as football goes, CFB is way more oversaturated than NFL.
ive never liked primetime games, especially the opening week ones where they have a second game that starts after the first one concludes... I dont even care for 330 games on Sundays. NFL games should be played at noon on Sunday for my liking. and definitely dont care for the europe games and their fucked up start times, or Thursday games at any tme except on Thanksgiving, even then the TGday late game... eh, by then I want to decompress and go to bed, not get wrapped up in another 3 to 4 hours of football.college is a different beast, much more regional and specialized fan base IMO, but yes, its pretty much everywhere, but until bowl season its pretty much just on Saturdays. Now college Basketball, thats stupid how you can always find one of those games on TV, even if there is nobody watching it in person.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"pattersaur" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Oh for dumb. I find myself caring less each year for the NFL product as a whole. I still watch the Vikings games, but due to shit announcers, shitty game times, and other matters, I just am not as engaged as I once was, and these changes will do nothing to address that. Just curious, what’s wrong with the gametimes? Or do you mean TNF? I guess there’s some London games too but I sorta like having the occassional dogcrud 8:30am game to throw on.Plus as far as football goes, CFB is way more oversaturated than NFL.
ive never liked primetime games, especially the opening week ones where they have a second game that starts after the first one concludes... I dont even care for 330 games on Sundays. NFL games should be played at noon on Sunday for my liking. and definitely dont care for the europe games and their fucked up start times, or Thursday games at any tme except on Thanksgiving, even then the TGday late game... eh, by then I want to decompress and go to bed, not get wrapped up in another 3 to 4 hours of football.college is a different beast, much more regional and specialized fan base IMO, but yes, its pretty much everywhere, but until bowl season its pretty much just on Saturdays. Now college Basketball, thats stupid how you can always find one of those games on TV, even if there is nobody watching it in person.
Jeez! Noon only?! You are old school haha. Back in your day CFB was Notre Dame games and Army/Navy once a year :p
@"pattersaur" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"pattersaur" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Oh for dumb. I find myself caring less each year for the NFL product as a whole. I still watch the Vikings games, but due to shit announcers, shitty game times, and other matters, I just am not as engaged as I once was, and these changes will do nothing to address that. Just curious, what’s wrong with the gametimes? Or do you mean TNF? I guess there’s some London games too but I sorta like having the occassional dogcrud 8:30am game to throw on.Plus as far as football goes, CFB is way more oversaturated than NFL.
ive never liked primetime games, especially the opening week ones where they have a second game that starts after the first one concludes... I dont even care for 330 games on Sundays. NFL games should be played at noon on Sunday for my liking. and definitely dont care for the europe games and their fucked up start times, or Thursday games at any tme except on Thanksgiving, even then the TGday late game... eh, by then I want to decompress and go to bed, not get wrapped up in another 3 to 4 hours of football.college is a different beast, much more regional and specialized fan base IMO, but yes, its pretty much everywhere, but until bowl season its pretty much just on Saturdays. Now college Basketball, thats stupid how you can always find one of those games on TV, even if there is nobody watching it in person.
Jeez! Noon only?! You are old school haha. Back in your day CFB was Notre Dame games and Army/Navy once a year :p
actually before the college game went to big money, I watched a fair bit of Miami, Fl State, Georgia, of course Notre Dame, Texas, OK, Nebraska, and USC, UCLA, Stanford, maybe once in a while some Michigan, but that was about it.... back when they were still student athletes and not just a stepping stone for a couple years to the NFL, and now with transfer portals and NIL... fuck it, I actually find myself watching more of the lower tier teams now since those kids are less likely out there to showcase for the NFL and may actually be students.but yeah, Sunday noon games are my favorite, both in attendance as well as on TV.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Oh for dumb. I find myself caring less each year for the NFL product as a whole. I still watch the Vikings games, but due to shit announcers, shitty game times, and other matters, I just am not as engaged as I once was, and these changes will do nothing to address that. I care less now as well, but its mostly because of getting older, more mature (maybe) and just having more perspective on not putting so much emotional energy into the NFL like I did 20+ years ago. As I've mentioned, I'm very fair weather now. I'll turn off a shitty Viking's game and watch Redzone Channel in a nano-second. Some of that is also due to being a jaded, long-suffering fan of the Vikings: its taken a toll.Also the realization that you and I aren't the NFL's target demo any longer. They don't cater to us and really don't give a shit about older fans. But that can be said for all professional sports. You age out of it as far as marketing and rules changes go. You're 55+ years old and don't like something the league is doing for the NFL? Yawn. They don't care (although I think you are younger than that, jimmy, if I remember right?).
Regardless, I enjoy the Redzone Channel a ton. Its better for my attention span. But I have the gotten the NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV, so I'll be watching them.
I wonder if they know who their target market even is anymore.
Nope they don't care as long as it doesn't hurt their bottom line. Hope they are paying attention to the Bud Light fiasco
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Oh for dumb. I find myself caring less each year for the NFL product as a whole. I still watch the Vikings games, but due to shit announcers, shitty game times, and other matters, I just am not as engaged as I once was, and these changes will do nothing to address that. I care less now as well, but its mostly because of getting older, more mature (maybe) and just having more perspective on not putting so much emotional energy into the NFL like I did 20+ years ago. As I've mentioned, I'm very fair weather now. I'll turn off a shitty Viking's game and watch Redzone Channel in a nano-second. Some of that is also due to being a jaded, long-suffering fan of the Vikings: its taken a toll.Also the realization that you and I aren't the NFL's target demo any longer. They don't cater to us and really don't give a shit about older fans. But that can be said for all professional sports. You age out of it as far as marketing and rules changes go. You're 55+ years old and don't like something the league is doing for the NFL? Yawn. They don't care (although I think you are younger than that, jimmy, if I remember right?).
Regardless, I enjoy the Redzone Channel a ton. Its better for my attention span. But I have the gotten the NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV, so I'll be watching them.
I wonder if they know who their target market even is anymore.
The ratings and revenue are going like gangbusters. Unless that changes they will keep on the current course.
@"supafreak84" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Oh for dumb. I find myself caring less each year for the NFL product as a whole. I still watch the Vikings games, but due to shit announcers, shitty game times, and other matters, I just am not as engaged as I once was, and these changes will do nothing to address that. I care less now as well, but its mostly because of getting older, more mature (maybe) and just having more perspective on not putting so much emotional energy into the NFL like I did 20+ years ago. As I've mentioned, I'm very fair weather now. I'll turn off a shitty Viking's game and watch Redzone Channel in a nano-second. Some of that is also due to being a jaded, long-suffering fan of the Vikings: its taken a toll.Also the realization that you and I aren't the NFL's target demo any longer. They don't cater to us and really don't give a shit about older fans. But that can be said for all professional sports. You age out of it as far as marketing and rules changes go. You're 55+ years old and don't like something the league is doing for the NFL? Yawn. They don't care (although I think you are younger than that, jimmy, if I remember right?).
Regardless, I enjoy the Redzone Channel a ton. Its better for my attention span. But I have the gotten the NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV, so I'll be watching them.
I wonder if they know who their target market even is anymore.
Nope they don't care as long as it doesn't hurt their bottom line. Hope they are paying attention to the Bud Light fiasco
Thats the one I was thinking of, they make changes and do things without regards to who they might be pissing off as they try and grab a new demographic. now this is an extreme comparison, but the base is valid. The NFL will do what Nascar did 15 years ago, they were selling out everything their ratings were through the roof, but they wanted to try and add more and as a result they forgot their base and they went from being the fastest growing spectator sport in the US to something most folks dont even know is even still around. I dont see the NFL falling that far that fast, but between youth participation levels declining ( down over 10% in the last decade ) and other things drawing young people away, you may have a coming generation of kids that dont have parents or friends that love the game, and that will be when it tips over.
@"comet52" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Oh for dumb. I find myself caring less each year for the NFL product as a whole. I still watch the Vikings games, but due to shit announcers, shitty game times, and other matters, I just am not as engaged as I once was, and these changes will do nothing to address that. I care less now as well, but its mostly because of getting older, more mature (maybe) and just having more perspective on not putting so much emotional energy into the NFL like I did 20+ years ago. As I've mentioned, I'm very fair weather now. I'll turn off a shitty Viking's game and watch Redzone Channel in a nano-second. Some of that is also due to being a jaded, long-suffering fan of the Vikings: its taken a toll.Also the realization that you and I aren't the NFL's target demo any longer. They don't cater to us and really don't give a shit about older fans. But that can be said for all professional sports. You age out of it as far as marketing and rules changes go. You're 55+ years old and don't like something the league is doing for the NFL? Yawn. They don't care (although I think you are younger than that, jimmy, if I remember right?).
Regardless, I enjoy the Redzone Channel a ton. Its better for my attention span. But I have the gotten the NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV, so I'll be watching them.
I wonder if they know who their target market even is anymore.
The ratings and revenue are going like gangbusters. Unless that changes they will keep on the current course.
but they arent staying the course, they are fucking with the recipe, and while I admit I am not likely the target market and represent a tiny minority of nfl fans, there are lots of small segments and the more changes they make, the more they are apt to alienating a large segment of their fan base. I used to go along with the argument that they have teams of marketing professionals that review all this kind of shit before they jump, but I am sure AB had scores of marketing pros that greenlighted their debacle.
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