OMG. We did it. We just drafted our QBOTF

@"TBro" said: Jaren Hall-BYU  :#

I like this pick. Good value at #164. 

that is a good pick at this point

At this point, it's a crap shoot drafting a 5th Round QB. Hall's arm strength is a concern so hopefully he can work on that with the trainers while he is bulking up the rest of this body. There were better developmental prospects we could have taken than Hall, but it's what I've come to expect with a Kwesi run draft. 

“Could develop into a career backup,” sounds promising…!  ;) B)

would have perfered dtr

You knew when they didn't go QB early that DTR and Jaren Hall would be real possibilities later in the draft as theyve been linked to the Vikings. I like Hall. Russell Wilson comparisons and he has some talent to work with and develop. 

Neat pick. Love to see if he can get better. 

He's got a chance. Conflicting reviews of his arm. Some love it and some think it's below average. Either way I like his motion. Throws a pretty pass. I like that he can run. Scored really high on the S2. Agree with the Russell Wilson comp. Even looks like him. 

JAREN HALL, Brigham Young (6-0, 206, 4.64, 6-7): Replaced Zach Wilson at the throttle in 2021 and had a prolific two-year run. “Not much less arm talent than Zach,” one scout said. “More mature. Character-wise, he’s all positive. You’re not going to get the crazy stories that you had with Zach. Just a different person, but he definitely has at least No. 2 quarterback traits. He can throw. Different arm slots, all that stuff.” Ran an impressive 40 and his short shuttle of 4.19 paced the quarterbacks (the top six didn’t participate at the combine or pro day). Finished with a passer rating of 110.0; rushed for 800 and nine TDs. His extensive injury history might knock him off some draft boards. “His was all system,” said a second scout. “He’s got one read and he knows where to go with the ball, and if he can get it there he’s good. But a small guy with an average arm. If it’s not on timing out of the pocket he just really struggles. No upside. Looks like he’s got enough to be a backup.” Turned 25 last month. Wonderlic of 24. Hands were 9 ½. From Spanish Fork, Utah.

I like the pick at this point in the draft.  Little back-story on him, he actually beat out Zach Wilson a few years back for starting QB, but got injured, so the team rolled with Wilson and he got the hot hand and they kept him around.  Was a stud baseball player and chose football.  Time will tell if he develops into a good pro player, but I can tell you that there is nothing wrong with his arm.  I saw several of his games live (I am a BYU alum) and he has a great mix of strength, accuracy and touch.  The "system" he ran was pro-style, so not sure the beefs from scouts saying he was a one-read type of guy.  He is great at pocket presence and scrambles very effectively when needed to buy time for receivers to break open.  Honestly, watching some of his games reminded me quite a bit of being a kid and watching another Viking QB that was undersized and quick, running around like crazy looking for open receivers in the 70's.  Not saying he is the 2nd coming of Tarkenton, just saying he has some similar traits. The injury history is the only thing worrisome to me, but should become a good back-up within a couple of years at a minimum, but maybe more.

Would have gone with Duggan

@"mgobluevikes" said: Would have gone with Duggan

Just tell me he doesnt weigh 175

Nobody is concerned about him being 25?  Thats seemed to be a hang up for some on Hooker. 

I think some of these “scouts” smoke crack on the road lol! On tape he has a good arm. Not elite strength but a “good” arm for the NFL. He threw a ball 70 yards a few years back and watching tape I saw one at about 58 air yards and off center completed in stride for a TD. There are NFL QB’s borderline on doing that. The comps with Wilson are spot on. I don’t see his footwork as polished as Wilson’s was coming out, but otherwise they are close. I suspect he would have been talked about at the top of the draft if he wasn’t old at 25 (Mormon missionary time loss) and smaller than typically desired.
His speed is excellent. He’s much faster on tape compared to his 40 time. On tape he’s right in that 4.4 to 4.5 range. In my opinion, he plays at Wilson’s speed if not slightly faster. He’ll give defensive coordinators heartburn if he develops that ability further. 
Lastly, his greatest strength in my opinion is his accuracy. He so often throws into contested coverage at an angle where only his guy can get it. He seems to have a natural feel for it. The ball gets there quick and “comfortably” (best word I could think of to describe his touch). 
So there’s a lot to work with. His troubles are his footwork and too many off base throws relying solely on his arm strength. It works fine in college because he can dial up the velocity, but it will be a problem facing NFL speed. 
Although he seems at times to have pretty decent pocket presence, it is inconsistent and pressure is a big problem with his decision making. He seems fearless, but also seems to freeze a bit when it’s coming on him. 
Can he put it together? I hope so as the talent is definitely there. He’ll be a capable 2nd stringer quickly. The rest will be up to the coaches and him. 

Well, at least he's not (word of the day) - spindly!

I like him. Could surprise, thought he was more of a 3rd round talent.