What are you willing to give up for QB of the future?

Its only worth it if you hit on it, obviously. Then almost any comp gives the juice that's worth the squeeze. Risk/reward ratio is high in the scenario of moving up to do it. You REALLY need to love a kid to get the consensus necessary internally to make the play. It could very well be that Minnesota does not feel strongly enough about any of these guys to consider it. All of these 'rumors' can be complete horseshit. And even IF they feel that way about a certain candidate, they still might not be able to pull it off. I think things would need to fall a certain way and even then, its not like the Vikings are operating in a vacuum.....other teams could feel the same and have slightly more to offer. 

The odds are against it. But the odds were also 99.8% that Minnesota was going to lose the Buffalo game. Shit can happen. 

I don't want them to give any future drafts capital.  This year's draft seems lost with so few picks.  See what we can do with what we have this year. Cook, or Hunter should be available if they can get great, not good value 

I'm not one clamoring to replace Cousins. You gotta have a QB to compete in this league, and Cousins is one of the best. Not worried about his age either. He's got another 4 or 5 years in him. 

That said, you do have to take your shot on a QB to see if you can't get lucky and land a superstar on a rookie contract. 

I would give up nothing. I think they're all crap shoots and the odds of hitting on the 5th QB are not really that much lower than hitting on one of the top 2. 

@"MaroonBells" said: I would give up nothing. I think they're all crap shoots and the odds of hitting on the 5th QB are not really that much lower than hitting on one of the top 2. 

If they move up, I hope they can hold onto all of their most valuable picks in 2025. Don’t get wiped out obviously but 2023 and 2024 picks are on the table, as are the rumored trade candidate players.

I’m only ok if the go for AR. Its for the obvious high ceiling. 

Id like to see it done for 
‘23 1st and 3rd or 4th
’24 1st and 3rd or 4th
’25 2nd

Id be willing to part with veterans for assets. 

If one of the others gets really close to #23 and we need to grease the wheels to get it done (not our 1st) with a pick from ‘24 Im ok with that as well. 

@"AGRforever" said: I’m only ok if the go for AR. Its for the obvious high ceiling. 

Id like to see it done for 
‘23 1st and 3rd or 4th
’24 1st and 3rd or 4th
’25 2nd

Id be willing to part with veterans for assets. 

If one of the others gets really close to #23 and we need to grease the wheels to get it done (not our 1st) with a pick from ‘24 Im ok with that as well. 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"AGRforever" said: I’m only ok if the go for AR. Its for the obvious high ceiling. 

Id like to see it done for 
‘23 1st and 3rd or 4th
’24 1st and 3rd or 4th
’25 2nd

Id be willing to part with veterans for assets. 

If one of the others gets really close to #23 and we need to grease the wheels to get it done (not our 1st) with a pick from ‘24 Im ok with that as well. 

I'd say Will Levis has a pretty high ceiling as well. CJ Stroud is a good looking athlete and accurate. I think you have to temper what is the highest ceiling (AR) with what is realistic and can be achieved. Its what makes this group interesting at least. AR may have the highest potential but he's also the most likely to bust out.

I would not move up into the Top 5 for this draft - too much.

But, we have enough ammo to move into around 13.  We would give up 23,87 and next year second rounder.  

So if the QB they like is still thier at 13 then I want us to strongly make that move.  I like Levis the best, I see a more accurate Josh Allen!

I totally see the value of picking up our QBOTF this year so that he can sit and marinate behind Kirk, but man, we REALLY need so much help all over this team. We went out and hired a premier D coordinator and for the life of me I cannot understand why he’d want to sign on if we aren’t going to be able to draft a couple D players high in this draft. I know we’ve got some guys coming back from injury and I really like Byron Murphy, but we need to draft D. Also, I don’t think enough can be said about how much we need somebody who will be able to provide some juice alongside JJ. I like Jordan Addison, personally.

@"prairieghost" said: I totally see the value of picking up our QBOTF this year so that he can sit and marinate behind Kirk, but man, we REALLY need so much help all over this team. We went out and hired a premier D coordinator and for the life of me I cannot understand why he’d want to sign on if we aren’t going to be able to draft a couple D players high in this draft. I know we’ve got some guys coming back from injury and I really like Byron Murphy, but we need to draft D. Also, I don’t think enough can be said about how much we need somebody who will be able to provide some juice alongside JJ. I like Jordan Addison, personally.

Trade down, get 2 second round picks
Trade Kirk, get Lance and 2 third round picks
Trade Cook for a 5th
Trade Z for a 5th

5 picks plus Lance and TJ from the first 3 rounds of the draft.  Draft CB, LB, EDGE, DT, WR.

Throw in the health of Booth and Cine, that is 7 young potential studs to see the field while you see if Lance is the guy.

If he's not, we will have a high pick and have ammo to deal up to get Caleb Williams.  

If he is, then you have a QBOTF and all of your 24' picks

This is HOW YOU RESET

@"ArizonaViking" said:

@"prairieghost" said: I totally see the value of picking up our QBOTF this year so that he can sit and marinate behind Kirk, but man, we REALLY need so much help all over this team. We went out and hired a premier D coordinator and for the life of me I cannot understand why he’d want to sign on if we aren’t going to be able to draft a couple D players high in this draft. I know we’ve got some guys coming back from injury and I really like Byron Murphy, but we need to draft D. Also, I don’t think enough can be said about how much we need somebody who will be able to provide some juice alongside JJ. I like Jordan Addison, personally.

Doesn't the fact that the Vikings' defense ranked 31st in the league raise any concerns?  I can't see the organization passing up on quality defensive players.  Even if they trade up and draft a QOTF and score lots of points, the defense if not fixed will just give up more.  Not going to win very  games with a rookie quarterback and a horrid defense.

Putting this yrs. group of QBs in any kind of historical perspective, and all I can come up with is a remarkable lack of a front runner, where even the supposed #1 QB is looked at with skepticism in terms of his slight build and long term durability. From there I see Mitch Trubisky, Jameis Winston, (minus the crabs), Marcus Mariota type players. I'm not mortgaging the future on this crop. Hard stop.

@"Skodin" said: Trade down, get 2 second round picks Trade Kirk, get Lance and 2 third round picks Trade Cook for a 5th Trade Z for a 5th

5 picks plus Lance and TJ from the first 3 rounds of the draft.  Draft CB, LB, EDGE, DT, WR.

Throw in the health of Booth and Cine, that is 7 young potential studs to see the field while you see if Lance is the guy.

If he's not, we will have a high pick and have ammo to deal up to get Caleb Williams.  

If he is, then you have a QBOTF and all of your 24' picks

This is HOW YOU RESET

I’m not a big believer in trading up a lot to get a QB.  I think the evidence is pretty clear that
there’s way too many guys that people are certain are can’t miss prospects and
they end up busting.  Also a high
percentage of the elite QBs in recent history weren’t drafted at the very top
of the draft.  I’m more a believer in
drafting higher quantities of QBs as way to raise your odds of hitting on one.  I think teams should be drafting a QB when
they have the opportunity to draft a guy they believe has sufficient potential
to be elite.  I think you should be
drafting a QB roughly every other year on average until you get an elite QB,
but there’s always draft variation, in that sometimes when you need a QB, there’s
none available, and sometimes the perfect guy falls and you don’t need them so
you pass on them, only to regret it later.

I think it’s more important that the organization focuses on
becoming a QB factory, where everything is setup to maximize the potential of
the QBs.  Far too often you draft a good QB
into a shitty situation and they bust.  I
think everything else is secondary.  Always
have good OLine and good receiving targets. 
Maintain coaching consistency on the offensive side.

I think the most I would trade is the original first, one
extra first and a third.  That feels like
a lot to me, but we’re always drafting from the middle of the draft and to get
an elite QB from here, you’re pretty much hoping that the 4th best
QB you’re drafting was missed by all the other teams.  Maybe I would have different opinions if we
sucked and could realistically trade up to #1 and get an Andrew Luck.

The QB class of 2021 are 2 years into it and  Lawrence and maybe Fields look the part, the rest don't.

I hope they pass on drafting a QB and instead trade for Lance.

@"Mattyman" said: The QB class of 2021 are 2 years into it and  Lawrence and maybe Fields look the part, the rest don't. I hope they pass on drafting a QB and instead trade for Lance.

@"Mattyman" said: The QB class of 2021 are 2 years into it and  Lawrence and maybe Fields look the part, the rest don't.

I hope they pass on drafting a QB and instead trade for Lance.

 

Lance is a bust.  I'd rather take a 3-4th rounder QB then a trade for Lance whom I suspect wouldn't be cheap if the 49ers weren't convinced he was a bust. 

I’m all in. so…  ;) :p