OT: Legal Weed in MN - Coming Soon?
This should be an interesting day in Minnesota. I really hope it passes, and not just because I like it every now and then. B) It's just ridiculous that humans are going to prison for pot, but guzzeling gallons of Busch Light (or any other forms of booze) is perfectly legal. I think it has a real chance this time.
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/recreational-marijuana-minnesota-house-set-to-vote-on-legalization-bill-monday/
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— ☠️Daddy Bones☠️ (@UpBeatSkeletor) December 8, 2023
@"MaroonBells" said: https://twitter.com/UpBeatSkeletor/status/1732987767976505428?s=20
He forgot the part where the pot heads flock to legalized places and hard drug use skyrockets and people shit on the streets.
I tend to agree on pot being relatively harmless, but if the shit show that seems to follow legalization in other states is the result, I will keep voting against legalization here and not complain a bit about cops looking the other way on its use, which many do as long as people aren't being stupid with it or getting into harder shit.
I dont think it's really been stigmatized in my area in decades, as long as people aren't abusing it publicly and then it's no worse than somebody shit faced, and certainly not difficult to get if you know anybody.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"MaroonBells" said: https://twitter.com/UpBeatSkeletor/status/1732987767976505428?s=20
He forgot the part where the pot heads flock to legalized places and hard drug use skyrockets and people shit on the streets.I tend to agree on pot being relatively harmless, but if the shit show that seems to follow legalization in other states is the result, I will keep voting against legalization here and not complain a bit about cops looking the other way on its use, which many do as long as people aren't being stupid with it or getting into harder shit.
I dont think it's really been stigmatized in my area in decades, as long as people aren't abusing it publicly and then it's no worse than somebody shit faced, and certainly not difficult to get if you know anybody.
Personally, I couldn't care less if it were legal or not.Don't know what you mean by shitting on the streets or the "shit show that follows," but as far as hard drug use goes, studies have shown there doesn't appear to be a signifiant correlation.
@"MaroonBells" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"MaroonBells" said: https://twitter.com/UpBeatSkeletor/status/1732987767976505428?s=20
He forgot the part where the pot heads flock to legalized places and hard drug use skyrockets and people shit on the streets.I tend to agree on pot being relatively harmless, but if the shit show that seems to follow legalization in other states is the result, I will keep voting against legalization here and not complain a bit about cops looking the other way on its use, which many do as long as people aren't being stupid with it or getting into harder shit.
I dont think it's really been stigmatized in my area in decades, as long as people aren't abusing it publicly and then it's no worse than somebody shit faced, and certainly not difficult to get if you know anybody.
Personally, I couldn't care less if it were legal or not.Don't know what you mean by shitting on the streets or the "shit show that follows," but as far as hard drug use goes, studies have shown there doesn't appear to be a signifiant correlation.
im not talking about the casual user going to harder drugs, I am referring to the appearance of hard core drug users showing up in states that have legalized weed. its likely always been the same %, but I have heard from Denver residents that there is a "shit" element that has appeared in the last decade that wasnt present prior to the legalization. ( and also talking about Denver seeing similar actual SHIT on their sidewalks and alleyways, similar to what is happening in more herbal understanding cities on the west coast.I know there are parts of Denver that were re-invented in the 90s and early 2000s that made that place a destination for people our age, I also know ( from people that I trust, that also happen to be of the nature to imbibe) that some of those areas are no longer places to visit due to the hard core drug use and its side effects that has infested the area.
Studies also show ( from Colorado) that the legalization, and subsequent tax revenue increase, dont offset the financial and social costs associated with legalization.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8672945/#:~:text=Medical%20and%20recreational%20marijuana%20legalization,of%20the%202021%20state%20budget.
Like I have said, I am not against or really give a shit about pot use, honestly... if i ever got to the point in life that it just doesnt matter and I need the reported benefits of its use, I would likely venture down that road, but I would much prefer to see it stay illegal and deal with our status quo, vs what I am reading and hearing out the effects of legalization. We have legalized it for medical use, which I support as long as we dont have witch doctors giving out "prescriptions" like its candy, but talking to one of the few licensed growers in the state, it will only be a matter of months before he is given "an offer he cant refuse" from a cartel or other unsavory organization that wants to establish a foothold in this market.
Hmmm, I smoke weed, It’s never once made me aggressive, violent, or given me the urge to shit ihe street… ;) B)
@"Kentis" said: Hmmm, I smoke weed, It’s never once made me aggressive, violent, or given me the urge to shit ihe street… ;) B)You mean it didn't make you want to shoot smack and rob a liquor store? I smoke every now and then and all I ever want to do is eat Funyuns and listen to Pink Floyd. And I HATE Pink Floyd. B)
@"Kentis" said: Hmmm, I smoke weed, It’s never once made me aggressive, violent, or given me the urge to shit ihe street… ;) B)Same here. Aggressive toward a Costco-sized bag of Cool Ranch Doritos? Guilty.
I'll probably have a gummy before today's NFL lineup. I'll try my best to not shit in the driveway.
@"StickyBun" said:@"Kentis" said: Hmmm, I smoke weed, It’s never once made me aggressive, violent, or given me the urge to shit ihe street… ;) B) Same here. Aggressive toward a Costco-sized bag of Cool Ranch Doritos? Guilty.I'll probably have a gummy before today's NFL lineup. I'll try my best to not shit in the driveway.
Lol, it's that new strain of weed called "Shart Bud", isn't it? B)
I could care less if its legal or not anymore.
Hell, I've had my black mkt sources literally for decades and was fine running with that for a long while.
Having some regulation will have its +/-, but going into a store to buy something will be novel, at least for a little while.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"MaroonBells" said: https://twitter.com/UpBeatSkeletor/status/1732987767976505428?s=20
He forgot the part where the pot heads flock to legalized places and hard drug use skyrockets and people shit on the streets.I tend to agree on pot being relatively harmless, but if the shit show that seems to follow legalization in other states is the result, I will keep voting against legalization here and not complain a bit about cops looking the other way on its use, which many do as long as people aren't being stupid with it or getting into harder shit.
I dont think it's really been stigmatized in my area in decades, as long as people aren't abusing it publicly and then it's no worse than somebody shit faced, and certainly not difficult to get if you know anybody.
I've worked in social work/mental healthcare for the last 20 plus years. Needless to say there is a massive connection between mental health, drug abuse and homelessness. The last two being direct results of the first. The idea that places that legalize weed saw an increase in hardcore drug use and shitting in the streets statistically may be accurate. However your assumption that it's due to weed legalization is anecdotal.
Historically, the first places to legalize weed were incredibly liberal. That extends to how they view and treat the homeless population. Where as less liberal states politicians are more likely to send them packing rather than spending any real money trying to lessen the problem.
The conservative states saw the legalization off weed in other states as an opportunity to decrease their homeless population. There wasn't some great migration of hardcore drug users choosing to pay out of pocket to relocate simply because weed was legal.
What happened is the more conservative states and cities will literally pay homeless people to relocate."Here's X number of dollars and a list of cities out of the region we will pay for a bus ticket to. You agree to take this deal then you waive your right to any assistance if you choose to return. Sign on the dotted line"
The cities on that list are liberal and unlikely to return the favor by paying off homeless to go back to where they came. There are literally cities in the country who have bus lines dedicated to nothing but shipping their homeless out west to liberal states
@"MaroonBells" said:How can you hate Pink Floyd? WTF!@"Kentis" said: Hmmm, I smoke weed, It’s never once made me aggressive, violent, or given me the urge to shit ihe street… ;) B) You mean it didn't make you want to shoot smack and rob a liquor store? I smoke every now and then and all I ever want to do is eat Funyuns and listen to Pink Floyd. And I HATE Pink Floyd. B)Great Gig In The Sky is amazing...death, heaven and afterlife
https://youtu.be/vWZ6hmHj2MA?si=vUcAExo2fi-jWu7C
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