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Some more info on the “World Saving” vaccine.

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#1 · Mar 28, 10:47 PM
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lol zerohedge is your source?
Want me to post Fauci propaganda that says the vaccine was 110% effective?

#3 · Mar 29, 12:24 PM
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@"AGRforever" said: lol zerohedge is your source?
Want me to post Fauci propaganda that says the vaccine was 110% effective?



Sure, that will help your point.

#4 · Mar 29, 3:50 PM
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@"AGRforever" said: lol zerohedge is your source?
Want me to post Fauci propaganda that says the vaccine was 110% effective?



Well, you can do so, but "science" has already proven Fauci wrong on most every assertion he's made, hasn't it?  There is cluelessness, arrogance, collusion, lying, conspiracy, and something just short of or even more than murder.  I think the messiah is culpable on nearly every one.   He admits that masks do no good, then calls to enforce mask mandates.  Two weeks to flatten the curve?  Nope, more like two years. Wuhan open market versus Wuhan Lab. If you're that gullible, ahh there's just no words.  Vaccine prevents Covid?  That's what he asserted up front.  There was never a study that showed that in any way.  He LIED so that he could make his decision for you.  Gain of Research function.  Not happening, right?  It sure seems like there was a lot of money funneled to and through Fauci to China that was doing just that.  How many meetings with subordinates did Fauci conduct with people who had one view one day and a totally different view the next?  It was a vaccine.  The vaccines I've seen in the past were at least somewhat effective.  This one has taken on the form of an annual booster shot for life.  My, that's a nice outcome for Big Pharma.  Oh, btw, let' now include it on the list of required vaccines for children to enter school and let's also coordinate a booster with the annual flu shot.  Let's also downplay any side effects by colluding with the federal branch, social media and the Mainstream media.  Yeah, I think the Fauci propaganda has been overtaken by people that actually have had time to reflect and see that he's a pathological liar.  I believe the guy sometimes believes himself, which is why he can totally contradict himself on every major level and still believe he's right.   So, yeah, I think you can post that crap to your hearts content.  Unlike the battle that some of us have fought and gained significant ground and credibility with over the last two years, your side can go down with the ship if you choose.   

#5 · Mar 29, 5:16 PM
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So you want to hear the bad news waterboy?

#6 · Mar 29, 5:36 PM
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@"AGRforever" said: So you want to hear the bad news waterboy?
Sure, but I suspect we may not agree on your take or if we do that it’s really bad news.  :)
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@"AGRforever" said: So you want to hear the bad news waterboy?
Ukraine is a giant money laundering pit?
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Fauci made millions at the expense of people around the world. Him, Gates, WEF leaders need to be dealt with.

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@"Waterboy" said:
@"AGRforever" said: So you want to hear the bad news waterboy?
Sure, but I suspect we may not agree on your take or if we do that it’s really bad news.  :)
Your study best I can tell didn’t factor in any positives from vaccinations. 

If we take the study entirely at face value, it loses all credibility by not factoring in lives saved, recoevery times shortened and the economic impact on the flip side of the coin. 

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@"VikingOracle" said: Not Gateway Pundit or Zero Hedge, but interesting read:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/03/03/the-changing-political-geography-of-covid-19-over-the-last-two-years/


So, the point of the article is that the contagious virus in its strongest state attacked urban centers first and killed off the most vulnerable?  It took longer to reach the more rural Republican areas?  Man, that’s hard to figure out.  Lol The articles whole premise is that the “vaxx” was the assignable cause to your data.   Who woulda thunk? Amazing..  I immediately must conclude that you accept the spiraling all death rates in each and every highly vaxxed country in the world is due to the vaccine then, correct?   Also, it’s fun to note the timing of the study.  Your data is a year old and despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of people are not getting boosted, we still see a dramatic decrease in Covid deaths.  They’re just dying of heart attacks and leukemia now.  And, the most vulnerable have already been killed off.  And, the numbers weren’t artificially inflated by the “funding” element where hospitals received cash influxes if they had large numbers of Covid deaths. That wasn’t also the case.  SMH…
 The article makes the assumption that people are not acquiring a natural immunity to the virus which is what happens.  Viruses learn to live in their hosts and not kill them, because that would kill off the virus all together.  If you care to study up on viruses, that’s what viruses do.  They become less deadly over time as their hosts develop real immunity.  Still, the righteous among you wanted the govt to make the call to put their needle in people who wanted nothing to do with it.   This study was conducted only shortly and certainly contained data from a time when Joe and Lord Fauci were telling us that you get the jab, you don’t get Covid.  
If you want me to agree that more initial exposure to the virus occurred in urban centers, you’ve got me.  The rest of this is simply spinning numbers to say what they want them to say and ignores any reliable causation.  
How are the crime, poverty, and overall life expectancy numbers doing in these same urban centers?  It’s crazy that a virus attacked them improportionately early on.  So hard to figure out that the most vulnerable were the ones most affected early on….  Can you find an article on the latest trends?  I sincerely haven’t seen any of late, mostly because the virus and its potency seems to have died down significantly.  I’m sure it has nothing to do with a virus running its course, though.

I also must wonder why the same jab that parents were shoving down their five year olds arms are being told by the WHO that children and teens probably don’t need the vaxx.  It was essential for them just one year ago because people like Fauci said so.  

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lol. Unreal. 

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@"Waterboy" said:
@"VikingOracle" said: Not Gateway Pundit or Zero Hedge, but interesting read:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/03/03/the-changing-political-geography-of-covid-19-over-the-last-two-years/


  Also, it’s fun to note the timing of the study.  Your data is a year old and despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of people are not getting boosted, we still see a dramatic decrease in Covid deaths. 

Did you miss 5th grade science class?

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Here this should help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8uKDw_YCjo&t=87s

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You guys always show so much thought and introspection in your replies.  The government loves your type, just let them tell you how your life should be run.  Some, but not all of my information comes from a guy who recently resigned as the lead investigator on the Moderna vaccine trial.  He gave up hundreds of thousands of dollars because ethically he couldn't comply with what they're hiding.  Namely heart conditions and cancers, particularly leukemias.  But, you guys just keep getting jabbed.  It's working out quite well, and you've been right all along. lol

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@"AGRforever" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"VikingOracle" said: Not Gateway Pundit or Zero Hedge, but interesting read:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/03/03/the-changing-political-geography-of-covid-19-over-the-last-two-years/


  Also, it’s fun to note the timing of the study.  Your data is a year old and despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of people are not getting boosted, we still see a dramatic decrease in Covid deaths. 

Did you miss 5th grade science class?



Is that the one teaching that windmills will save us all except for the Whales and the people that actually want their homes electricity to work more than 50% of the time?

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@"Waterboy" said: You guys always show so much thought and introspection in your replies.  The government loves your type, just let them tell you how your life should be run.  Some, but not all of my information comes from a guy who recently resigned as the lead investigator on the Moderna vaccine trial.  He gave up hundreds of thousands of dollars because ethically he couldn't comply with what they're hiding.  Namely heart conditions and cancers, particularly leukemias.  But, you guys just keep getting jabbed.  It's working out quite well, and you've been right all along. lol

I'm as libertarian as you're going to find. But I also know when to trust people smarter then me.  My BIL is an epidemiologist.  Probably the smartest guy I know, especially when it comes to his field. I've had many long conversations with him regarding covid and vaccinations.  I had not qualms getting vaccinated nor did we have any vaccinating our children. 

Please educate yourself on mrna before you spread misinformation about cancer/leukemia being caused by them. The ironic thing here is that mrna certainly seems to be the next big step in cancer treatment. 

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@"Waterboy" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"VikingOracle" said: Not Gateway Pundit or Zero Hedge, but interesting read:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/03/03/the-changing-political-geography-of-covid-19-over-the-last-two-years/


  Also, it’s fun to note the timing of the study.  Your data is a year old and despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of people are not getting boosted, we still see a dramatic decrease in Covid deaths. 

Did you miss 5th grade science class?



Is that the one teaching that windmills will save us all except for the Whales and the people that actually want their homes electricity to work more than 50% of the time?

I'm not sure what you're talking about?  Windmills are windmills.  They're not very effective in low wind environments.  Heck, they're not very effective in high wind environments.  Unless you're dramatically younger then I am there wasn't a windmill section in any of science classes?

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@"AGRforever" said:
@"Waterboy" said: You guys always show so much thought and introspection in your replies.  The government loves your type, just let them tell you how your life should be run.  Some, but not all of my information comes from a guy who recently resigned as the lead investigator on the Moderna vaccine trial.  He gave up hundreds of thousands of dollars because ethically he couldn't comply with what they're hiding.  Namely heart conditions and cancers, particularly leukemias.  But, you guys just keep getting jabbed.  It's working out quite well, and you've been right all along. lol

I'm as libertarian as you're going to find. But I also know when to trust people smarter then me.  My BIL is an epidemiologist.  Probably the smartest guy I know, especially when it comes to his field. I've had many long conversations with him regarding covid and vaccinations.  I had not qualms getting vaccinated nor did we have any vaccinating our children. 

Please educate yourself on mrna before you spread misinformation about cancer/leukemia being caused by them. The ironic thing here is that mrna certainly seems to be the next big step in cancer treatment. 



Your brother-in-law who would most likely lose his license for going against any of the covid protocols advised you to get the vaccine?  I'm startled by that.  I guess I stand corrected.  My  wife's lifelong acquaintance leading the investigation arm of Moderna testing doesn't hold a candle to your brother-in-law.  I have a friend of 20+ years who is an MD that at the beginning of 2022 told me he had no concerns about the vaccine at all.  His best friend (49 yrs old) recently died due to cancer that had been in remission for 3 years reappearing within 3 months after the vaccine.  He has changed his viewpoint.  Believe it or not, many MD's simply have not had the amount of time to do their own research on effective treatments and don't bother to because they want to keep their jobs.  I told my own doctor he would no longer be my doctor if he spewed AMA bs at me during my check-up.  He told me off the record that he has taken the vaccine, but his entire family has not and will not. 

AI may also be the future.  I'm scared by that too.  The vaccine was an experiment with the largest sample size in medical history and still yet to be determined results.  I sincerely don't wish against it's success, but any of you that question other people's right to refuse it are and have been totally on the wrong side of the debate.  Fauci hasn't been right on one thing and the vaxx at best is a break even proposition at this point with a lifetime of implications still tbd.  

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