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CB-Deonte Banks
WR-Smith-Njigba
I'm seeing these two as the most consistent mocked to the Vikings. I'm concerned that Smith-Njigba will get snatched up before we pick. 
Banks is the more likely of the two to be there at 23 but I'm still hoping for a trade down. 

Outside of these two, who do you think we end up if we stay put?

#1 · Mar 10, 1:03 AM
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in my view Booth, Needle, and Evans all need to play. Resign P2 and Shelly. 

Same on the DL with Pat Jones.l, although we should draft another edge at some point. 

 I am all for Smith Njigba as this NFL is about scoring. If there is an opportunity o trade down for 2 seconds or to move up in Rd3, I see our priority needs as Mike, C, and QB. 

#2 · Mar 10, 6:02 PM
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I could also see this being the draft that KAM trades a 3rd and a 4th for a second next year trying  to position for QBOTF. 

#3 · Mar 10, 6:07 PM
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@"Bullazin" said:
I could also see this being the draft that KAM trades a 3rd and a 4th for a second next year trying  to position for QBOTF. 
On the Mock Draft Compiler sites, Banks is Mocked to us the most at 23, but I have a feeling we won't be staying there. 
#4 · Mar 10, 8:33 PM
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I think we talk Jason Kelce into playing one more year in Minnesota. We then add a 1st tier free agent LB (Edmunds) and a 2nd-tier CB (Sutton), then trade down from 23 into the 30-40 range and draft QB Hendon Hooker. With our three 3rd rounders acquired in the trade down, we draft RB Tyjae Spears, WR Jayden Reed, and C/G Olusegun Oluwatimi.

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@"MaroonBells" said: I think we talk Jason Kelce into playing one more year in Minnesota. We then add a 1st tier free agent LB (Edmunds) and a 2nd-tier CB (Sutton), then trade down from 23 into the 30-40 range and draft QB Hendon Hooker. With our three 3rd rounders acquired in the trade down, we draft RB Tyjae Spears, WR Jayden Reed, and C/G Olusegun Oluwatimi.
Soinds like an offseason plan to me. Lets get Kwesi on the line. Hooker is a wild card in this draft.  I saw him against Howell last year and he was the best player on the field
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Anyone know about Sewell?  He is very intriguing to me, coild he last to 3rd round?  I think we could use a masher in the middle of this D. 

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@"Bullazin" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: I think we talk Jason Kelce into playing one more year in Minnesota. We then add a 1st tier free agent LB (Edmunds) and a 2nd-tier CB (Sutton), then trade down from 23 into the 30-40 range and draft QB Hendon Hooker. With our three 3rd rounders acquired in the trade down, we draft RB Tyjae Spears, WR Jayden Reed, and C/G Olusegun Oluwatimi.
Soinds like an offseason plan to me. Lets get Kwesi on the line. Hooker is a wild card in this draft.  I saw him against Howell last year and he was the best player on the field
I dismissed him early on because of the offense he came from. No longer. I still think Levis is the best QB in this draft and it looks like he could drop into the teens, but I'm beginning to think Hooker in the 30s or 40s might be the best QB value in this draft. 
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@"Bullazin" said: Anyone know about Sewell?  He is very intriguing to me, coild he last to 3rd round?  I think we could use a masher in the middle of this D. 
Sewell would be good about 30 years ago. He can't move like LB needs to move these days. He should put on 75 lbs and play O-Line. 
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@"Bullazin" said: Anyone know about Sewell?  He is very intriguing to me, coild he last to 3rd round?  I think we could use a masher in the middle of this D. 
@supafreak84 is in love with him. I think he's like a Manti Teo, a good college ILB who may not have the range or coverage chops for the NFL. Could be wrong though. HIs combine numbers weren't that bad. Either way, from the rankings I'm seeing by draft analysts I trust, he should be available in the 3rd round. 

I have a hunch what Flores wants next to Asamoah is an ILB who has the beef to stop the inside run and the length to rush the passer off the edge. There's one in free agency (Tremaine Edmunds) and two in the draft (Drew Sanders, Jack Campbell). Just seems like based on his comments about players having versatility and playing different roles, this kind of LB would appeal to him. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"Bullazin" said: Anyone know about Sewell?  He is very intriguing to me, coild he last to 3rd round?  I think we could use a masher in the middle of this D. 
@supafreak84 is in love with him. I think he's like a Manti Teo, a good college ILB who may not have the range or coverage chops for the NFL. Could be wrong though. HIs combine numbers weren't that bad. Either way, from the rankings I'm seeing by draft analysts I trust, he should be available in the 3rd round. 

I have a hunch what Flores wants next to Asamoah is an ILB who has the beef to stop the inside run and the length to rush the passer off the edge. There's one in free agency (Tremaine Edmunds) and two in the draft (Drew Sanders, Jack Campbell). Just seems like based on his comments about players having versatility and playing different roles, this kind of LB would appeal to him. 



I think Sewell is a really good player. Instinctive, twitchy, and he's a thumper. I think we need a bigger LB that can hold up in run support and he would fit the bill. His ability as a pass rusher and blitzer would really fit in with what Flores wants to do. If he is available in the 3rd, that's a steal for some team IMO

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I'd love Sanders, Sewell, or Simpson for us. I'm not as big on the Iowa kid 

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After releasing Thielen and Dantzler yesterday, I still think WR and C are the biggest needs we have right now. That could change if they end up trading Z. Smith but I still feel like we really don't know what we have in some of our defensive players until we see them under Flores' Coaching and Scheme, especially if Cine and Booth can come back and stay healthy. Patrick Jones is another guy I'm very interested in seeing develop under Flores. 

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@"TBro" said: After releasing Thielen and Dantzler yesterday, I still think WR and C are the biggest needs we have right now. That could change if they end up trading Z. Smith but I still feel like we really don't know what we have in some of our defensive players until we see them under Flores' Coaching and Scheme, especially if Cine and Booth can come back and stay healthy. Patrick Jones is another guy I'm very interested in seeing develop under Flores. 
I cross Booth off any plans,  the story on him coming out was cant stay healthy,  he lived up to that reputation year one,  if he contributes great,  but you have to look at FA and the draft as if he isnt even on the roster.  Sadly same goes for Cine,  that was a pretty traumatic injury,  those short little videos are encouraging,  but until he can go hard enough and long enough,  cutting, pushing, hitting, jumping etc... you cant trust that he will be the guy.  Jones,  now that kids a player.
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"TBro" said: After releasing Thielen and Dantzler yesterday, I still think WR and C are the biggest needs we have right now. That could change if they end up trading Z. Smith but I still feel like we really don't know what we have in some of our defensive players until we see them under Flores' Coaching and Scheme, especially if Cine and Booth can come back and stay healthy. Patrick Jones is another guy I'm very interested in seeing develop under Flores. 
I cross Booth off any plans,  the story on him coming out was cant stay healthy,  he lived up to that reputation year one,  if he contributes great,  but you have to look at FA and the draft as if he isnt even on the roster.  Sadly same goes for Cine,  that was a pretty traumatic injury,  those short little videos are encouraging,  but until he can go hard enough and long enough,  cutting, pushing, hitting, jumping etc... you cant trust that he will be the guy.  Jones,  now that kids a player.
I understand your thinking, but I guess I have more hope, at least for Cine to be fully recovered and ready to go by Training Camp. I think Booth will be Healthy, but will he stay Healthy? Hopefully he has a string of good luck for a change and we benefit from it. 
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@"TBro" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"TBro" said: After releasing Thielen and Dantzler yesterday, I still think WR and C are the biggest needs we have right now. That could change if they end up trading Z. Smith but I still feel like we really don't know what we have in some of our defensive players until we see them under Flores' Coaching and Scheme, especially if Cine and Booth can come back and stay healthy. Patrick Jones is another guy I'm very interested in seeing develop under Flores. 
I cross Booth off any plans,  the story on him coming out was cant stay healthy,  he lived up to that reputation year one,  if he contributes great,  but you have to look at FA and the draft as if he isnt even on the roster.  Sadly same goes for Cine,  that was a pretty traumatic injury,  those short little videos are encouraging,  but until he can go hard enough and long enough,  cutting, pushing, hitting, jumping etc... you cant trust that he will be the guy.  Jones,  now that kids a player.
I understand your thinking, but I guess I have more hope, at least for Cine to be fully recovered and ready to go by Training Camp. I think Booth will be Healthy, but will he stay Healthy? Hopefully he has a string of good luck for a change and we benefit from it. 
You still have to fill a starting CB role like he isn't in the equation,  kinda like assuming you will need a 1B RB along with Dalvin,  due to him getting dinged as often as he had in the past.
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@"TBro" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"TBro" said: After releasing Thielen and Dantzler yesterday, I still think WR and C are the biggest needs we have right now. That could change if they end up trading Z. Smith but I still feel like we really don't know what we have in some of our defensive players until we see them under Flores' Coaching and Scheme, especially if Cine and Booth can come back and stay healthy. Patrick Jones is another guy I'm very interested in seeing develop under Flores. 
I cross Booth off any plans,  the story on him coming out was cant stay healthy,  he lived up to that reputation year one,  if he contributes great,  but you have to look at FA and the draft as if he isnt even on the roster.  Sadly same goes for Cine,  that was a pretty traumatic injury,  those short little videos are encouraging,  but until he can go hard enough and long enough,  cutting, pushing, hitting, jumping etc... you cant trust that he will be the guy.  Jones,  now that kids a player.
I understand your thinking, but I guess I have more hope, at least for Cine to be fully recovered and ready to go by Training Camp. I think Booth will be Healthy, but will he stay Healthy? Hopefully he has a string of good luck for a change and we benefit from it. 
The selection of Lewis Cine and how that all played out was beyond ridiculous and now we have no idea what we have in him due to the injury. If he's lost a step or two it's a problem because speed was supposed to be his calling card. 
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"TBro" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"TBro" said: After releasing Thielen and Dantzler yesterday, I still think WR and C are the biggest needs we have right now. That could change if they end up trading Z. Smith but I still feel like we really don't know what we have in some of our defensive players until we see them under Flores' Coaching and Scheme, especially if Cine and Booth can come back and stay healthy. Patrick Jones is another guy I'm very interested in seeing develop under Flores. 
I cross Booth off any plans,  the story on him coming out was cant stay healthy,  he lived up to that reputation year one,  if he contributes great,  but you have to look at FA and the draft as if he isnt even on the roster.  Sadly same goes for Cine,  that was a pretty traumatic injury,  those short little videos are encouraging,  but until he can go hard enough and long enough,  cutting, pushing, hitting, jumping etc... you cant trust that he will be the guy.  Jones,  now that kids a player.
I understand your thinking, but I guess I have more hope, at least for Cine to be fully recovered and ready to go by Training Camp. I think Booth will be Healthy, but will he stay Healthy? Hopefully he has a string of good luck for a change and we benefit from it. 
You still have to fill a starting CB role like he isn't in the equation,  kinda like assuming you will need a 1B RB along with Dalvin,  due to him getting dinged as often as he had in the past.
I think the Dalvin-always-hurt narrative is overblown. He's one of I think just two RBs in the NFL who's had over 1,000 yards each of the last 4 seasons. Did he get dinged occasionally? Yes, he's a RB. They all do. 

But I agree that we have to approach the CB position as if we're expecting nothing from Booth. Is it likely he'll get hurt again? No, but nor has he proven yet that he can play in the NFL. To me, that's more a reason to add a player than the injury thing. 

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