Richardson

We'll see what happens with his rankings between now and the draft...Its not absurd to think if the Vikings want him to sit on their roster for 2 years they will have to move up to get him. 

Not easy to do with only 4 picks this year. 

He's an intriguing talent. I would not be opposed to drafting him if the cost to do so (the trade up terms) are not too high. For example, probably not at 10, but if he's there in the mid-to-late teens, he starts to get real interesting.

He's going to be selected top 7, watch and see. He's going to impress in workouts, etc. 

One of these years the Vikings are going to have to pull the trigger on a guy. Whether that's trading up (Lance, Fields recently) or "calling your shot" on a guy who is maybe a fringe 1st/2nd rounder (Lamar, Hurts), the likelihood of us ever being in position to draft Luck or Lawrence or even a Herbert or Allen, under this ownership group, is slim.
The list of QB busts is very long but same goes for any position. Didn't we draft Treadwell at or around 23? I hope the new regime isn't too content or too afraid or too-whatever-the-heck-else to at least TRY to find Kirk's successor. Be it this year or next.

saw a mock with him #1 yesterday Mcshay i think 

@"Bullazin" said: saw a mock with him #1 yesterday Mcshay i think 

https://www.gatorsports.com/story/football/2023/02/17/anthony-richardson-draft-nfl-experts-predictions-florida-gators-quarterback-uf/69912654007/ This list of about 20 "experts" has him going anywhere from 3-29. Carolina is the most popular destination, either at #9 or via a trade up. Carolina makes a lot of sense. Defense that's good enough, no QB, a new HC whose rep says he's good at molding QBs, and an owner who probably regrets passing on Justin Fields.

@"pattersaur" said:

@"Bullazin" said: saw a mock with him #1 yesterday Mcshay i think 

https://www.gatorsports.com/story/football/2023/02/17/anthony-richardson-draft-nfl-experts-predictions-florida-gators-quarterback-uf/69912654007/ This list of about 20 "experts" has him going anywhere from 3-29. Carolina is the most popular destination, either at #9 or via a trade up. Carolina makes a lot of sense. Defense that's good enough, no QB, a new HC whose rep says he's good at molding QBs, and an owner who probably regrets passing on Justin Fields.

Every year a QB comes out of nowhere and will be way over drafted. With his stats, how he possibly gets a 7.5 as his lowest grade is absurd. Picking anyone in the top 10 with the idea that they'll be sitting for 2 years in the hopes that you can straighten out their faults, and teach them the position which they've barely played (13 college starts) is stupid.

In a weak crop of QBs, scouts/his agent want him to be good in the worst way.

@"mgobluevikes" said: Every year a QB comes out of nowhere and will be way over drafted. With his stats, how he possibly gets a 7.5 as his lowest grade is absurd. Picking anyone in the top 10 with the idea that they'll be sitting for 2 years in the hopes that you can straighten out their faults, and teach them the position which they've barely played (13 college starts) is stupid.

In a weak crop of QBs, scouts/his agent want him to be good in the worst way.

Kind of sounds like you were talking about Lance there,  at least thats how I felt about him,  and mostly still do.

He's so raw that he may need more than one season on the bench before he's ready to be the starter. Whoever drafts him will need to have a vet QB already on the roster who they're comfortable with as a starter until AR is ready to take over. That's going to narrow the field a bit.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said: Every year a QB comes out of nowhere and will be way over drafted. With his stats, how he possibly gets a 7.5 as his lowest grade is absurd. Picking anyone in the top 10 with the idea that they'll be sitting for 2 years in the hopes that you can straighten out their faults, and teach them the position which they've barely played (13 college starts) is stupid.

In a weak crop of QBs, scouts/his agent want him to be good in the worst way.

Kind of sounds like you were talking about Lance there,  at least thats how I felt about him,  and mostly still do.

@"Knucklehead" said: He's so raw that he may need more than one season on the bench before he's ready to be the starter. Whoever drafts him will need to have a vet QB already on the roster who they're comfortable with as a starter until AR is ready to take over. That's going to narrow the field a bit.

I think only 4 draft picks is what is going to narrow the field.  I find it very likely that they extend Cousins,  and if they are going to do that then they damn well better focus on improving our IOL and D with the limited resources we have left,  not really room for a developmental QB if you arent willing to struggle a bit with a rebuild.

Richardson is an intriguing athlete, but he needs a lot of development as a pocket passer and is going to really need to land in the right situation to develop. The completion percentage worries me a lot. You just don't know if he is going to develop and be Cam Newton or another player he reminds me of on film in Logan Thomas coming out of Virgina Tech. With all that said, the Vikings would be an ideal development destination for someone like him. It would be an interesting conversation to have if he were still on the board at #23

I've watched a lot of Richardson and think he is worth taking anywhere outside of the top-5. Sure, there is a lot of inconsistency to his game but if you look at arm talent, size, and athletic ability he does what a lot of NFL QBs can't do. That is worth something. Accuracy is the common concern but he has some Josh Allen to that. Allen struggled with accuracy because of his base and his inability to layer the ball (E.G threw everything on a line). Richardson, same problem. He lives on his arm too much and will sacrifice resetting. That doesn't mean he will improve, but there is at least a chance. On the field he processes' surprisingly quickly and some of his flashes moving in the pocket are insane. 

There is a lot of bad/unknown. But if you just take draft range and look at say Kenny Pickett a year ago and Richardson, the floors are very different. You're talking serviceable low-end starter (Pickett) vs straight-up unplayable (Richardson). But speaking upside Pickett is a good top 15ish QB. Richardson if he hits his ceiling easily is a top 10 QB with the potential to go higher. Albeit I don't see much of a middle ground. 

I’m a big no thanks on Richardson. 54.7% pass completion isn’t good and I think the Vikings have other things to address early. If they can get a few more picks somehow and take a shot at someone later I’m all for drafting a QB.

read somewhere that 2024 QB class is much better, any thoughts…? 

@"Kentis" said: read somewhere that 2024 QB class is much better, any thoughts…? 

isnt the greatest QB class of all time just 1 or 2 years away

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Kentis" said: read somewhere that 2024 QB class is much better, any thoughts…? 

isnt the greatest QB class of all time just 1 or 2 years away

@"Kentis" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Kentis" said: read somewhere that 2024 QB class is much better, any thoughts…? 

isnt the greatest QB class of all time just 1 or 2 years away

Well for us it is…  B) 

@"Geoff Nichols" said: I've watched a lot of Richardson and think he is worth taking anywhere outside of the top-5. Sure, there is a lot of inconsistency to his game but if you look at arm talent, size, and athletic ability he does what a lot of NFL QBs can't do. That is worth something. Accuracy is the common concern but he has some Josh Allen to that. Allen struggled with accuracy because of his base and his inability to layer the ball (E.G threw everything on a line). Richardson, same problem. He lives on his arm too much and will sacrifice resetting. That doesn't mean he will improve, but there is at least a chance. On the field he processes' surprisingly quickly and some of his flashes moving in the pocket are insane. 

There is a lot of bad/unknown. But if you just take draft range and look at say Kenny Pickett a year ago and Richardson, the floors are very different. You're talking serviceable low-end starter (Pickett) vs straight-up unplayable (Richardson). But speaking upside Pickett is a good top 15ish QB. Richardson if he hits his ceiling easily is a top 10 QB with the potential to go higher. Albeit I don't see much of a middle ground. 

I would sacrifice a few percentage points of accuracy for mobility.   I think extending plays and not having to take quick check downs or throw aways and sacks will make up for a missed throw a couple times a game,  as long as the kid learns where to miss at so they don't become interceptions.   Again,  not looking for a running QB,   just somebody that can make people miss and move out of the pocket while looking down field.  The actual rush yardage isn't import,   just the threat that you will take those yards if the D isn't playing honest.