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Smith-Njigba Anyone?

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Latest CBS mock has him going to us at 23. 

Can he make the transition from the slot to the outside?

Would he help free up JJ?

Can he stay healthy at the NFL level?

All great questions. If he can demonstrate flexibilty to be more than a slot receiver, than I would have no problem taking him at 23. 

#1 · Feb 9, 5:06 PM
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Depends on what we do in free agency, but I'm definitely open to taking WR in the 1st. He looked slow the first time I watched him. Combine might be a big deal for him, but this hammy injury might keep him out. Is it real? Or is he avoiding all stopwatches this spring? 

He played mostly in the slot, but so did JJ.  

#2 · Feb 9, 5:28 PM
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If we are going to stick with KC for the near term,  23 with a likely 2 year extension through 25,  then IMO we need to proceed like its truly an all in thing,  pass on question marks for guys that are more likely to make immediate impacts,  KC is not a long term solution,  so IMO use FA and the draft to make a legit run.    If they arent willing to commit to the now,  then they need to be looking at QB of the future and focusing on improving OL an DL this year and then worry about skill positions in coming drafts and FA.

IMO enough trying to play both sides of the coin,  pick one and do it right instead of trying to spread limited resources over multiple paths forward.

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I agree with Maroon that he isn't the fastest guy, but he runs great routes and if you need to move the chains on 3rd down he's your guy. To me, Jalin Hyatt is the best receiver in this draft. After that, it will be interesting to see how teams rank Smith-Njigba, Addison, Johnson, and Zay Flowers 

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@"supafreak84" said: I agree with Maroon that he isn't the fasteIst guy, but he runs great routes and if you need to move the chains on 3rd down he's your guy. To me, Jalin Hyatt is the best receiver in this draft. After that, it will be interesting to see how teams rank Smith-Njigba, Addison, Johnson, and Zay Flowers 
Both have their question marks including a limited sample size. He beats Smith-Njigba in speed, but he ran a very limited route tree at TN. Smith-Njigba is a great route runner and that probably is his best attribute along with his soft hands.  I think teams will get enamored at Hyatt's speed if the runs at the combine or his Pro Day which will push him up the board where we won't have a shot at drafting him.  

I would much rather take a chance with one of these at 23 than select another first round CB when there is plenty of Corner value available on Day 2. 

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I think the odds of KAM making a pick at 23 are around 25%, and I'm good with that. I don't mind spending a high pick on a WR, but I would be cautious with JS-N considering his injury history. 

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JSN's measurables and combine performance is going to matter. I don't necessarily think he is limited to the slot like many draft analysts think. There is this weird connotation that if you are not a box-out receiver or taking the top off, you can't play outside. The Vikings honestly don't run down the field all that much which kind of suits JSN in many ways. I could see them liking him due to the fit in this offense on the outside. He honestly has a lot of similarities to Thielen/Robert Woods. 

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I think the Vikings are looking more for a guy that can stretch the field. 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said: JSN's measurables and combine performance is going to matter. I don't necessarily think he is limited to the slot like many draft analysts think. There is this weird connotation that if you are not a box-out receiver or taking the top off, you can't play outside. The Vikings honestly don't run down the field all that much which kind of suits JSN in many ways. I could see them liking him due to the fit in this offense on the outside. He honestly has a lot of similarities to Thielen/Robert Woods. 
Is our not running down field on deep routes mostly by design or do we not have the horses or "deep threats" to get down field? I don't think Thielen or KJ are real down field threats and that's why they took a failed shot at Reagor prior to the season starting. It was a problem prior to the season and becomes even more problematic if we lose Thielen. We CAN NOT allow teams to simply double team Jefferson at leisure and not make them pay. Adding another big play receiver needs to be a priority for this team regardless of Thielen and that doesn't mean bringing in DJ Chark or someone of that caliber. 

I agree on your Smith-Njigba take and comp. I think he will be a really good player and I'd have no issue if we drafted him at #23, but think Hyatt has more of the type of skill set that we lack. 

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@"supafreak84" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said: JSN's measurables and combine performance is going to matter. I don't necessarily think he is limited to the slot like many draft analysts think. There is this weird connotation that if you are not a box-out receiver or taking the top off, you can't play outside. The Vikings honestly don't run down the field all that much which kind of suits JSN in many ways. I could see them liking him due to the fit in this offense on the outside. He honestly has a lot of similarities to Thielen/Robert Woods. 
Is our not running down field on deep routes mostly by design or do we not have the horses or "deep threats" to get down field? I don't think Thielen or KJ are real down field threats and that's why they took a failed shot at Reagor prior to the season starting. It was a problem prior to the season and becomes even more problematic if we lose Thielen. We CAN NOT allow teams to simply double team Jefferson at leisure and not make them pay. Adding another big play receiver needs to be a priority for this team regardless of Thielen and that doesn't mean bringing in DJ Chark or someone of that caliber. 

I agree on your Smith-Njigba take and comp. I think he will be a really good player and I'd have no issue if we drafted him at #23, but think Hyatt has more of the type of skill set that we lack. 



Agree all-around. Don't necessarily know if I like JSN's Vikings fit either since getting someone to break teams trying to play 2-high will do them more good. When it comes to KJ I am a little surprised they didn't run him deeper out of the slot much. He actually is rather good in that role, they just didn't do it. 

#10 · Feb 13, 2:47 PM
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@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said: JSN's measurables and combine performance is going to matter. I don't necessarily think he is limited to the slot like many draft analysts think. There is this weird connotation that if you are not a box-out receiver or taking the top off, you can't play outside. The Vikings honestly don't run down the field all that much which kind of suits JSN in many ways. I could see them liking him due to the fit in this offense on the outside. He honestly has a lot of similarities to Thielen/Robert Woods. 
Is our not running down field on deep routes mostly by design or do we not have the horses or "deep threats" to get down field? I don't think Thielen or KJ are real down field threats and that's why they took a failed shot at Reagor prior to the season starting. It was a problem prior to the season and becomes even more problematic if we lose Thielen. We CAN NOT allow teams to simply double team Jefferson at leisure and not make them pay. Adding another big play receiver needs to be a priority for this team regardless of Thielen and that doesn't mean bringing in DJ Chark or someone of that caliber. 

I agree on your Smith-Njigba take and comp. I think he will be a really good player and I'd have no issue if we drafted him at #23, but think Hyatt has more of the type of skill set that we lack. 



Agree all-around. Don't necessarily know if I like JSN's Vikings fit either since getting someone to break teams trying to play 2-high will do them more good. When it comes to KJ I am a little surprised they didn't run him deeper out of the slot much. He actually is rather good in that role, they just didn't do it. 


KJ's and Thielen's role seemed very ambiguous to me throughout the season. Also, those two seemed to struggle with gaining separation the most of any of our pass catchers. Not sure if that was due to route design, or other factors. Thielen may have lost a step, but he is an excellent route runner. KJ is also praised for his route running so not sure why both of them didn't flash open more in the passing attack. Maybe they were open more than we thought and Kirk didn't look their way. Maybe Geoff can shed some light on that since he has film access. Regardless, I'm all in favor of drafting another pass catcher in the first round depending on who falls to us at 23, or if we can trade down to the end of the 1st and get another pick or two. Even if the Vikings and Thielen can work out a new deal you can never have enough weapons. 

We will need to diversify the passing attack beyond JJ and Hockenson and I'm banking on Flores improving the talent we have in the Secondary without investing in another 1st Round Corner. 

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