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Potential candidates for new D Coordinator

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I'll start:  "Hello DeMeco?  This is Kevin O'Connell calling"

#1 · Jan 17, 2:16 PM
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Flores would make a good hire in my mind.  He improved a Steelers defense without its best player (Watt).  Regardless if he took us from 32 to 10-15th ranked, he wouldn't be considered a NFL HC candidate so he could stick around awhile.

A little more proven than the current crop of potential DCs

#22 · Jan 21, 5:09 PM
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@"JR44" said:
@"TBro" said: I like Brian Flores. I think his lawsuit stuff and the cloud surrounding him has dissipated. He is a brilliant defensive mind and an excellent teacher. 
All the reports from Miami is that he was a completely horrible person to work with, that he had an enormous ego and he consistently belittled others including trashing Tua every day in practice.  Great teachers teach others with respect and that is not Flores.  In addition, his lawsuit is completely bogus, with no merit and hypocritical.  If you are going to sue the NFL for racism, maybe you shouldn't hire a law firm with an all white team and walk in with your white wife.  
The fact that he has a white wife and can hire an all white firm (your words) should tell you he is not bound by color. if color was a determinant of who he marries or works with that would make him biased. So this is kind of contradicting yourself. 
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@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1616981545021046784?t=yczkJHTSZnF9T7Cbjm9NMg&s=19
I like this. Saints are always very stingy on defense.
#25 · Jan 21, 8:07 PM
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@"mblack" said:
@"JR44" said:
@"TBro" said: I like Brian Flores. I think his lawsuit stuff and the cloud surrounding him has dissipated. He is a brilliant defensive mind and an excellent teacher. 
All the reports from Miami is that he was a completely horrible person to work with, that he had an enormous ego and he consistently belittled others including trashing Tua every day in practice.  Great teachers teach others with respect and that is not Flores.  In addition, his lawsuit is completely bogus, with no merit and hypocritical.  If you are going to sue the NFL for racism, maybe you shouldn't hire a law firm with an all white team and walk in with your white wife.  
The fact that he has a white wife and can hire an all white firm (your words) should tell you he is not bound by color. if color was a determinant of who he marries or works with that would make him biased. So this is kind of contradicting yourself. 
You are the one contradicting yourself, if he is not bound by color then why is he suing the NFL for racism in their hiring, if it doesn't matter to him what color people are then why does he take issue with what color anyone in the NFL hires.  
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@"supafreak84" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1616981545021046784?t=yczkJHTSZnF9T7Cbjm9NMg&s=19
I like this. Saints are always very stingy on defense.
I also like that he was responsible for coaching the Saints Defensive Line. Since 2017, they have the 3rd most sacks in the NFL. He knows how to pressure and get after the QB. Something we rarely saw with Donatell. 
#27 · Jan 22, 5:51 AM
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@"TBro" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1616981545021046784?t=yczkJHTSZnF9T7Cbjm9NMg&s=19
I like this. Saints are always very stingy on defense.
I also like that he was responsible for coaching the Saints Defensive Line. Since 2017, they have the 3rd most sacks in the NFL. He knows how to pressure and get after the QB. Something we rarely saw with Donatell. 
Hes also had one of the best DL in Cam Jordan all that time.  If there is one player out there that you just press play its him.  I'm not saying he isn't a good coach,   just that it's easier with players like Jordan to work with.
#28 · Jan 22, 6:04 AM
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@"JR44" said:
@"mblack" said:
@"JR44" said:
@"TBro" said: I like Brian Flores. I think his lawsuit stuff and the cloud surrounding him has dissipated. He is a brilliant defensive mind and an excellent teacher. 
All the reports from Miami is that he was a completely horrible person to work with, that he had an enormous ego and he consistently belittled others including trashing Tua every day in practice.  Great teachers teach others with respect and that is not Flores.  In addition, his lawsuit is completely bogus, with no merit and hypocritical.  If you are going to sue the NFL for racism, maybe you shouldn't hire a law firm with an all white team and walk in with your white wife.  
The fact that he has a white wife and can hire an all white firm (your words) should tell you he is not bound by color. if color was a determinant of who he marries or works with that would make him biased. So this is kind of contradicting yourself. 
You are the one contradicting yourself, if he is not bound by color then why is he suing the NFL for racism in their hiring, if it doesn't matter to him what color people are then why does he take issue with what color anyone in the NFL hires.  
The Rooney Rule is a Scam which he claims in his lawsuit. NFL owners are a Good ol' Boys Club. Only 2 owners are of Color and neither one is Black. Kim Pegula(Co-Owner of the Bills and Sabres with her Husband), and Shahid Kahn. I don't believe in affirmative action. The best person should get the job and the Rooney Rule is nothing more than a virtue signaling form of Affirmative Action.  

The Court Case is still on hold pending a Judges decision to allow a public trial in Federal Court which the NFL desperately is fighting against, or move it to arbitration so the case will remain private and away from public view and scrutiny. By the way, Flores has two other Coaches that joined the lawsuit for their claimed discrimination against the Cardinals and Titans so he isn't all by himself in this fight. 

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"TBro" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1616981545021046784?t=yczkJHTSZnF9T7Cbjm9NMg&s=19
I like this. Saints are always very stingy on defense.
I also like that he was responsible for coaching the Saints Defensive Line. Since 2017, they have the 3rd most sacks in the NFL. He knows how to pressure and get after the QB. Something we rarely saw with Donatell. 
Hes also had one of the best DL in Cam Jordan all that time.  If there is one player out there that you just press play its him.  I'm not saying he isn't a good coach,   just that it's easier with players like Jordan to work with.
True, but you could also make that same argument against Donatell who had Hunter and virtually did nothing with him most of the season. A good coach takes what he has to work with and gets the most out of them so it will be nice to see that happen for the Vikings Defense next season. 
#30 · Jan 22, 6:35 AM
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@"TBro" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"TBro" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1616981545021046784?t=yczkJHTSZnF9T7Cbjm9NMg&s=19
I like this. Saints are always very stingy on defense.
I also like that he was responsible for coaching the Saints Defensive Line. Since 2017, they have the 3rd most sacks in the NFL. He knows how to pressure and get after the QB. Something we rarely saw with Donatell. 
Hes also had one of the best DL in Cam Jordan all that time.  If there is one player out there that you just press play its him.  I'm not saying he isn't a good coach,   just that it's easier with players like Jordan to work with.
True, but you could also make that same argument against Donatell who had Hunter and virtually did nothing with him most of the season. A good coach takes what he has to work with and gets the most out of them so it will be nice to see that happen for the Vikings Defense next season. 
Beat me to it - he had Hunter AND Z

Z had like 9 sacks 10 games in, then barely any the back 1/2 of the season.

That contusion was certainly part of it, but so was _onatell

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@"TBro" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"TBro" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1616981545021046784?t=yczkJHTSZnF9T7Cbjm9NMg&s=19
I like this. Saints are always very stingy on defense.
I also like that he was responsible for coaching the Saints Defensive Line. Since 2017, they have the 3rd most sacks in the NFL. He knows how to pressure and get after the QB. Something we rarely saw with Donatell. 
Hes also had one of the best DL in Cam Jordan all that time.  If there is one player out there that you just press play its him.  I'm not saying he isn't a good coach,   just that it's easier with players like Jordan to work with.
True, but you could also make that same argument against Donatell who had Hunter and virtually did nothing with him most of the season. A good coach takes what he has to work with and gets the most out of them so it will be nice to see that happen for the Vikings Defense next season. 
Donatel is just inept.  
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Would be worth looking at someone from this Bengals defensive coaching staff. They are playing great football against the Bills so far and getting after Allen. Seeing an active front four brings a tear to my eye 

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#34 · Jan 22, 2:34 PM
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I second the notion of raiding that Bengals defensive staff. Very underrated and play well when the big lights come on two years in a row.

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3rd. That Bengals defense is not a star-studded team, but they seem to get a lot out of what they have. In fact, their whole team seems to overachieve. Their offensive line is in shambles but it doesn't seem to affect them much. 

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@"MaroonBells" said: 3rd. That Bengals defense is not a star-studded team, but they seem to get a lot out of what they have. In fact, their whole team seems to overachieve. Their offensive line is in shambles but it doesn't seem to affect them much. 
I was thinking the same to myself yesterday, its a real team defense vs. a star-studded unit. They have the pieces to make it work, but they definitely over-achieve. 
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@"supafreak84" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1616981545021046784?t=yczkJHTSZnF9T7Cbjm9NMg&s=19
I like this. Saints are always very stingy on defense.
While I do think Nielsen is a good under the radar candidate based on the Saints results, I wonder if this is more information gathering than anything else. Nielsen is widely regarded as a top 3 D-line coach in the NFL. Wonder if they want his opinion on which front the Vikings should be running with their personnel. Basically could be getting an expert opinion, or more. He is worth consideration. 
#38 · Jan 23, 7:26 AM
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@"MaroonBells" said: 3rd. That Bengals defense is not a star-studded team, but they seem to get a lot out of what they have. In fact, their whole team seems to overachieve. Their offensive line is in shambles but it doesn't seem to affect them much. 
Which goes to show that it doesn't have to be star-studded to work. Maybe looking at that kind of approach is something to think about 
#39 · Jan 23, 7:32 AM
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@"MaroonBells" said: 3rd. That Bengals defense is not a star-studded team, but they seem to get a lot out of what they have. In fact, their whole team seems to overachieve. Their offensive line is in shambles but it doesn't seem to affect them much. 
Their HC on down was not getting enough cred most of the year...

On the flip side, something aint right with the Bills - Allen was sacked like 7 times vs Miami. Now Diggs is acting like a Richard again too. 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1616981545021046784?t=yczkJHTSZnF9T7Cbjm9NMg&s=19
I like this. Saints are always very stingy on defense.
While I do think Nielsen is a good under the radar candidate based on the Saints results, I wonder if this is more information gathering than anything else. Nielsen is widely regarded as a top 3 D-line coach in the NFL. Wonder if they want his opinion on which front the Vikings should be running with their personnel. Basically could be getting an expert opinion, or more. He is worth consideration. 
You have to wonder if KOC took notice of these defenses that were playing this weekend and what they were doing. The Giants were the last 3-4 team remaining and they got dominated. Bengals, Eagles, 49ers, and Chiefs all running 4-3 fronts with aggressive defensive lines. Even Dallas was impressive as hell and Jacksonville had their moments. The Vikings defense is just so far off from these other teams and it starts with scheme, so I can only hope that KOC was watching and gives this guy from New Orleans serious consideration. No idea why he is so married to this 3-4 scheme other then it worked in Los Angeles while he was there for one season. 
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