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This defense is the worst I have ever seen. Simply pathetic.

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#1 · Jan 15, 3:22 PM
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@"1VikesFan" said:
@"Vanguard83" said:
@"1VikesFan" said: If KOC brings him back I might be done. I have been a diehard Vikings fan since the '60's but this is downright embarrassing. 
you said that after the missed kick against Seattle.

The Vikings are like that stripper that you think likes you, bumping, grinding, blowing her breath on your neck, flipping her hail around......then leaves you penniless and pssyless.

youll be back, we all will - we are all too stupid to pull the plug



I did, show me that quote


Just messing with you

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#62 · Jan 15, 9:31 PM
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The D was the issue from Day 1. Period. Never got better. And when they tried tweaks, gameplan changes, etc. and nothing worked, you knew we'd be stuck with it all year. 

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What's with all the Harrison Smith hate?  Like I've read more than a couple posts saying he needs to go... It started in the off-season and now pops back up. Like WTF?  Guy has been a hell of a leader in his time here and played well this season.  I think it's kind of shitty to lump him in with other underperforming vets.

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@"Wetlander" said: What's with all the Harrison Smith hate?  Like I've read more than a couple posts saying he needs to go... It started in the off-season and now pops back up. Like WTF?  Guy has been a hell of a leader in his time here and played well this season.  I think it's kind of shitty to lump him in with other underperforming vets.
I think @MB nailed it in another thread - with the question marks on Cine, they will want to keep Smith, but probably on a re-worked deal. 

IF he wants to continue playing, which he hasn't said anything about. 

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#65 · Jan 16, 9:57 AM
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@"Wetlander" said: What's with all the Harrison Smith hate?  Like I've read more than a couple posts saying he needs to go... It started in the off-season and now pops back up. Like WTF?  Guy has been a hell of a leader in his time here and played well this season.  I think it's kind of shitty to lump him in with other underperforming vets.
i dont think its hate,  just the fact that he is older, has a big cap number, and is not playing at a level that we have expected from him.... but given how insanely stupid our D scheme was... is that on Smith or the nearly departed donatel?
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#67 · Jan 16, 10:20 AM
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My response last night on Twitter 
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#68 · Jan 16, 10:26 AM
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@"MaroonBells" said: https://twitter.com/PurpleForTheWin/status/1614813481680642048?s=20&t=l6aJOL2cLbZ0jZgzp_29zw
This is what stink eye looks like...
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@"Wetlander" said: What's with all the Harrison Smith hate?  Like I've read more than a couple posts saying he needs to go... It started in the off-season and now pops back up. Like WTF?  Guy has been a hell of a leader in his time here and played well this season.  I think it's kind of shitty to lump him in with other underperforming vets.
Agreed. He was stuck as a deep safety all year long, rarely used as a blitzer, and the results showed. Let him play his game as he always has and you'll get a better version of Harry.

Sad thing is, the same could be said for a couple of other players as well.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Wetlander" said: What's with all the Harrison Smith hate?  Like I've read more than a couple posts saying he needs to go... It started in the off-season and now pops back up. Like WTF?  Guy has been a hell of a leader in his time here and played well this season.  I think it's kind of shitty to lump him in with other underperforming vets.
i dont think its hate,  just the fact that he is older, has a big cap number, and is not playing at a level that we have expected from him.... but given how insanely stupid our D scheme was... is that on Smith or the nearly departed donatel?
What was wrong with his play this year?  5 INTs (tied his career high and this is the 4th time he's had 5 INTs in a season), 10 PDs, and a FF.

He's a versatile defender and can play deep and make plays behind the line of scrimmage.  

Like I'm fine if you want to argue age and cap number, but his play hasn't dropped off from past seasons.

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@"Wetlander" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Wetlander" said: What's with all the Harrison Smith hate?  Like I've read more than a couple posts saying he needs to go... It started in the off-season and now pops back up. Like WTF?  Guy has been a hell of a leader in his time here and played well this season.  I think it's kind of shitty to lump him in with other underperforming vets.
i dont think its hate,  just the fact that he is older, has a big cap number, and is not playing at a level that we have expected from him.... but given how insanely stupid our D scheme was... is that on Smith or the nearly departed donatel?
What was wrong with his play this year?  5 INTs (tied his career high and this is the 4th time he's had 5 INTs in a season), 10 PDs, and a FF.

He's a versatile defender and can play deep and make plays behind the line of scrimmage.  

Like I'm fine if you want to argue age and cap number, but his play hasn't dropped off from past seasons.



he is getting a step slow,  he is still a good center field safety on deep pass plays,  but getting to the sidelines on passes as well as his play at the LOS has slipped IMO... I am a huge fan of Harry,  but even I will admit that he isnt the player he was a couple years ago from a speed and strength standpoint.  still a damn good player,  but if you are going to a youth movement and are over the cap anyway,  how much can one afford to pay for a player in their twilight years of their career?  Once the field gets condensed ( red zone) and he doesnt have to range as much and can rely on experience and instincts... IMO there are few better,  but he isnt covering ground like he once did.

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#72 · Jan 16, 10:58 AM
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@"1VikesFan" said: This defense is the worst I have ever seen. Simply pathetic.
Hopefully you posted this in the first quarter.
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#73 · Jan 16, 11:54 AM
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@"greediron" said:
@"1VikesFan" said: This defense is the worst I have ever seen. Simply pathetic.
Hopefully you posted this in the first quarter.
Definitely did, should have posted it Week 2.
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a couple of interesting stats...  our D was only .3 PPG worse this year than last year, and while the O was lauded all year for their efforts,  they are actually .1 PPG WORSE in 22 than they were in 21.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game

both sides of the ball averaged about 25 points per game

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#75 · Jan 16, 1:22 PM
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@"JimmyinSD" said: a couple of interesting stats...  our D was only .3 PPG worse this year than last year, and while the O was lauded all year for their efforts,  they are actually .1 PPG WORSE in 22 than they were in 21.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game

both sides of the ball averaged about 25 points per game


Well, 

Somebody is responsible for 

13/4 vs 8/9

Most likely not _onatell though  :p

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should just be a matter of time…

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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: a couple of interesting stats...  our D was only .3 PPG worse this year than last year, and while the O was lauded all year for their efforts,  they are actually .1 PPG WORSE in 22 than they were in 21.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game

both sides of the ball averaged about 25 points per game


Well, 

Somebody is responsible for 

13/4 vs 8/9

Most likely not _onatell though  :p



its an odd shaped ball,  it bounces in funny ways,  some days those bounces work for you,  some days they dont. 

also,  players had pretty much given up on zim last year,  but this year everybody had a fresh spring in their step,  the smallest of changes resulted in a big shift in results... however I dont think small changes are going to fix some of the bigger issues we faced this season.

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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: a couple of interesting stats...  our D was only .3 PPG worse this year than last year, and while the O was lauded all year for their efforts,  they are actually .1 PPG WORSE in 22 than they were in 21.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game

both sides of the ball averaged about 25 points per game


Well, 

Somebody is responsible for 

13/4 vs 8/9

Most likely not _onatell though  :p



Oh, he definitely had a hand in the 4.

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