Burnt out or leaving a sinking ship?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35401376/sources-sean-mcvay-future-los-angeles-rams-coach-limbo
A case of too much too soon for a man of his age to able to be comfortable with. A lot of moving parts in his life at the moment, if he isn't burnt out, he's certainly on the path.
He's only 36 and at the top of his craft relative to other NFL coaches...But I can see where these guys can burn out really quickly.
I was thinking about the year KOC has had with moving, new job, new babies, new team - yikes!
I feel badly for Stefanski too - he's had a brutal year.
Back to McVay -- if he's fried and burned out he needs to take some time off. These jobs pay a ton of $ but at what price can you put on proper mental health and longer life?
@"BigAl99" said: A case of too much too soon for a man of his age to able to be comfortable with. A lot of moving parts in his life at the moment, if he isn't burnt out, he's certainly on the path.
The thing is Al he's a hardcore red ass. All-in and burning the candle at both ends. Life happens, I don't buy into the other stuff being an issue, I think the dude is needing a 2 year sabbatical to return to some starved franchise where he is offered a shitload of money to return (remember, he's still very young). The Rams are on the precipice of oblivion for the next 5 years and he knows this. Why burn as hard as he burns to achieve very little with this franchise my guess is what he's asking himself.
Maybe both. He got success early and now he is seeing the other side
@"StickyBun" said:@"BigAl99" said: A case of too much too soon for a man of his age to able to be comfortable with. A lot of moving parts in his life at the moment, if he isn't burnt out, he's certainly on the path.
The thing is Al he's a hardcore red ass. All-in and burning the candle at both ends. Life happens, I don't buy into the other stuff being an issue, I think the dude is needing a 2 year sabbatical to return to some starved franchise where he is offered a shitload of money to return (remember, he's still very young). The Rams are on the precipice of oblivion for the next 5 years and he knows this. Why burn as hard as he burns to achieve very little with this franchise my guess is what he's asking himself.
Totally agree, except about all the other things not being an issue. Loosing a close family member, mentor perhaps. New wife, that on it's own can be stressful, let alone her families situation. I don't know, I just look at it through my eyes and those issues are important.
I think ego is a factor too. There is no glory when the team is trash
He and his family may only want to live fulltime in LA—according to The Herd.
@"BStads" said: He and his family may only want to live fulltime in LA—according to The Herd.Ugh. Even people that live in LA don't want to be living there.
He is a talented guy that has a lot of other options especially living in LA which contrary to those who don't live here is one of the best cities to live in. He has had the networks recruiting him for sometime now for announcing jobs and also probably some other media and potentially film opportunities. Why put up with the grind and day to day of the NFL when you already won a Super Bowl and you can make the same money or more with an easier schedule and workload.
@"JR44" said: He is a talented guy that has a lot of other options especially living in LA which contrary to those who don't live here is one of the best cities to live in. He has had the networks recruiting him for sometime now for announcing jobs and also probably some other media and potentially film opportunities. Why put up with the grind and day to day of the NFL when you already won a Super Bowl and you can make the same money or more with an easier schedule and workload.I'm not saying LA sucks because I don't live there, I take it from people that now live in San Diego and USED to live there that I know and are friends of mine. The narrative is the place lacks any kind of soul. Superficial. Congested and overpopulated. Smoggy. I know you live there and Im certain it has very nice qualities, but many people bag on it.
This is the coaching wave of the future and McVay is a McBitch. Started with another bitch in Sean Payton. They will want these organizations to go all in for them and their success, and once the window closes and its time to pay the piper, these coaches want to hit the eject button because they lack the balls to go through a rebuild and have their precious legacies tarnished. They'll pin it on "burnout" but thats just an excuse. Say what you will about Belichick, but I have more respect for that guy sticking it out after Brady left then these guys hitting eject on their organizations when tough times come a calling. It's the spoiled LeBron James mentality and it's seeped it's way into professional coaching
I think this is just the nature of the NFL in this soft salary cap era. You steal cap space from some years to maximize your ability in other years. Time is a precious commodity. I think you'll see more elite players trying to force their way out because their teams don't have the cap space to surround them with a championship level roster. If you have 10 years to make all your dreams happen, your best option might be switching teams if your team can't make a legit run in the next couple years.
For coaches, I think that pressure is obviously a lot less, because coaching is a career that lasts as long as you want it. I think it's tougher to restart than it is go through a rebuild, but these coaches definitely have unsustainable lifestyles and I can see how if you are facing the challenges that McVay is given that he's used all his future draft capital and he's lost a lot of his coaches, that it would be a convenient time to take a break and start over with fresh energy and an unrestricted roster situation.
@"StickyBun" said:Not trying to hijack the thread here but I lived in LA for a long time too. It's great. Yes San Diego is nicer and so is Maui hah but that hardly mean LA sucks. Compared to many other NFL cities, since that's what McVay would be choosing from, LA and the surrounding area has a lot to like for a rich ~36 year-old IMO.@"JR44" said: He is a talented guy that has a lot of other options especially living in LA which contrary to those who don't live here is one of the best cities to live in. He has had the networks recruiting him for sometime now for announcing jobs and also probably some other media and potentially film opportunities. Why put up with the grind and day to day of the NFL when you already won a Super Bowl and you can make the same money or more with an easier schedule and workload. I'm not saying LA sucks because I don't live there, I take it from people that now live in San Diego and USED to live there that I know and are friends of mine. The narrative is the place lacks any kind of soul. Superficial. Congested and overpopulated. Smoggy. I know you live there and Im certain it has very nice qualities, but many people bag on it.
@"pattersaur" said:Yah, not to get too far down the rabbit hole...@"StickyBun" said:Not trying to hijack the thread here but I lived in LA for a long time too. It's great. Yes San Diego is nicer and so is Maui hah but that hardly mean LA sucks. Compared to many other NFL cities, since that's what McVay would be choosing from, LA and the surrounding area has a lot to like for a rich ~36 year-old IMO.@"JR44" said: He is a talented guy that has a lot of other options especially living in LA which contrary to those who don't live here is one of the best cities to live in. He has had the networks recruiting him for sometime now for announcing jobs and also probably some other media and potentially film opportunities. Why put up with the grind and day to day of the NFL when you already won a Super Bowl and you can make the same money or more with an easier schedule and workload. I'm not saying LA sucks because I don't live there, I take it from people that now live in San Diego and USED to live there that I know and are friends of mine. The narrative is the place lacks any kind of soul. Superficial. Congested and overpopulated. Smoggy. I know you live there and Im certain it has very nice qualities, but many people bag on it.Our daughter has lived in LA for almost 8 years now and it sure has a seemy side and the traffic is ridiculous 24/7. But what big city doesnt really struggle with those things?
We were thinking of packing up, leaving the midwest and relocating to Pasadena - till we got serious about housing and started internalizing the costs of buying anything there vs here.
I love the palm trees, restaurants, ocean, mountains etc...But the COL is just crazy vs what we're used to.
@"StickyBun" said:I didn't take any offense, you are right in that is how most people view it. I think most people think of the city and the tourist areas when they think of LA which are areas that many who live here avoid going to. However, there are amazing areas like the South Bay, all along the coast, some areas in the valley and Orange County, which are incredible areas to live, that are super clean and definitely have some soul to it. Regarding San Diego, it is definitely my favorite city and if I didn't have family in LA, would probably live there. I think it is a great sports city and that the NFL should have protected them with the Chargers, look at how well the Padres are doing in their new stadium, was no reason to move them.@"JR44" said: He is a talented guy that has a lot of other options especially living in LA which contrary to those who don't live here is one of the best cities to live in. He has had the networks recruiting him for sometime now for announcing jobs and also probably some other media and potentially film opportunities. Why put up with the grind and day to day of the NFL when you already won a Super Bowl and you can make the same money or more with an easier schedule and workload. I'm not saying LA sucks because I don't live there, I take it from people that now live in San Diego and USED to live there that I know and are friends of mine. The narrative is the place lacks any kind of soul. Superficial. Congested and overpopulated. Smoggy. I know you live there and Im certain it has very nice qualities, but many people bag on it.
@"JR44" said:I've been to L.A. several times, but of course never lived there. My wife and I spent 3 days at the Ritz-Carlton in Marina Del Rey, had a great time.@"StickyBun" said:I didn't take any offense, you are right in that is how most people view it. I think most people think of the city and the tourist areas when they think of LA which are areas that many who live here avoid going to. However, there are amazing areas like the South Bay, all along the coast, some areas in the valley and Orange County, which are incredible areas to live, that are super clean and definitely have some soul to it. Regarding San Diego, it is definitely my favorite city and if I didn't have family in LA, would probably live there. I think it is a great sports city and that the NFL should have protected them with the Chargers, look at how well the Padres are doing in their new stadium, was no reason to move them.@"JR44" said: He is a talented guy that has a lot of other options especially living in LA which contrary to those who don't live here is one of the best cities to live in. He has had the networks recruiting him for sometime now for announcing jobs and also probably some other media and potentially film opportunities. Why put up with the grind and day to day of the NFL when you already won a Super Bowl and you can make the same money or more with an easier schedule and workload. I'm not saying LA sucks because I don't live there, I take it from people that now live in San Diego and USED to live there that I know and are friends of mine. The narrative is the place lacks any kind of soul. Superficial. Congested and overpopulated. Smoggy. I know you live there and Im certain it has very nice qualities, but many people bag on it.
#Rams coach Sean McVay, whose future is in limbo, has permitted his coaching staff to search for other jobs without resistance, per sources. McVay said in a staff meeting that he doesn’t know what he will do next year and won’t block those who want to explore opportunities
— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) January 10, 2023
Teams can no longer block position coaches from interviewing for coordinator jobs, but they can block lateral moves. The Rams won't do that in this case.
— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) January 10, 2023
@"Vikergirl" said: I think ego is a factor too. There is no glory when the team is trashI don't agree with this at all. Within 24 hours of reaching the pinnacle of his craft he was ready to move on. It took a full court press from Stafford, Kupp and the owner to get him to commit. McVey had this to say after the SB win; “I want to have a family. … I’ve always had a dream about being a father,’’ he said. “I can’t predict the future. I know I love football, and I’m so invested in this thing. I’m in the moment right now. “But at some point, if you said, ‘What do you want to do?’ I want to be able to have a family, and I also want to be able to spend time with them, and I know how much time is being taken away during this time of year, and I saw that growing up.”
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