I remember the Mac Jones lovefest here....

Jones, the most NFL-ready of all the 1st round QBs, also had the lowest upside. He went to the ideal team, who gave him a rookie's diet and didn't ask him to do much. It wasn't hard to predict a decline in year two. 

NE is another team that will be looking for their QBOTF in 2023 or 2024.

@"Knucklehead" said: NE is another team that will be looking for their QBOTF in 2023 or 2024.

Yeah I remember that. I remember some people being pissed we didn't pick him. Eh whatever 

I remember one or two posters who were pissed we passed on Mac Jones.  I didn't see a lovefest on here for him.  On the other hand, I was in Love with Wilson who is flopping although he went to the worst situation of all the QB's.  

Our Kirk contract situation really prohibited us from using high draft capital on a QB of the future two years ago.  We are locked into to Kirk through next year, so this draft is a perfect time to be proactive and look to the future.  I am no college draft guy but their seems to be a good number of QB's coming out with 3 going top 10 easily.  

@"minny65" said: I remember one or two posters who were pissed we passed on Mac Jones.  I didn't see a lovefest on here for him.  On the other hand, I was in Love with Wilson who is flopping although he went to the worst situation of all the QB's.  

Our Kirk contract situation really prohibited us from using high draft capital on a QB of the future two years ago.  We are locked into to Kirk through next year, so this draft is a perfect time to be proactive and look to the future.  I am no college draft guy but their seems to be a good number of QB's coming out with 3 going top 10 easily.  

@"AGRforever" said:

@"minny65" said: I remember one or two posters who were pissed we passed on Mac Jones.  I didn't see a lovefest on here for him.  On the other hand, I was in Love with Wilson who is flopping although he went to the worst situation of all the QB's.  

Our Kirk contract situation really prohibited us from using high draft capital on a QB of the future two years ago.  We are locked into to Kirk through next year, so this draft is a perfect time to be proactive and look to the future.  I am no college draft guy but their seems to be a good number of QB's coming out with 3 going top 10 easily.  

We should be locked to Kirk. The guy has balled for us for what 5 years now?

If the opportunity is there, take a QB. Ideally, you hit on him AND Cousins settles nicely into KOC's offense and continues to play great football. I think he will. I also think, given his durability and playing style, he could be one of those QBs who plays well into his late 30s, early 40s. 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/vince-wilfork-doesnt-like-mac-jones-frustrated-outbursts-im-tired-of-it-201012026.html

@"StickyBun" said: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/vince-wilfork-doesnt-like-mac-jones-frustrated-outbursts-im-tired-of-it-201012026.html

@"AGRforever" said:

@"minny65" said: I remember one or two posters who were pissed we passed on Mac Jones.  I didn't see a lovefest on here for him.  On the other hand, I was in Love with Wilson who is flopping although he went to the worst situation of all the QB's.  

Our Kirk contract situation really prohibited us from using high draft capital on a QB of the future two years ago.  We are locked into to Kirk through next year, so this draft is a perfect time to be proactive and look to the future.  I am no college draft guy but their seems to be a good number of QB's coming out with 3 going top 10 easily.  

We should be locked to Kirk. The guy has balled for us for what 5 years now?

I'm in the camp that KC can play another 4+ years at a high level, especially with this scheme/coach.  The OL should do nothing but get better in the next seasons too. 

Use this time to find that QBOTF and lets see if KAM can't do something to get a team friendlier deal during that time too. 

@"StickyBun" said: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/vince-wilfork-doesnt-like-mac-jones-frustrated-outbursts-im-tired-of-it-201012026.html

I was one of those that wanted Mac Jones. Again not to have him start but have him sit for a year or two and take over or give us leverage for Cousins or trade capital later. There was absolutely no downside to drafting Mac Jones. I still think it was a missed opportunity especially after the Mond pick. We could have had Darrisaw and Jones both.

To those that use BB statement as vindication, at least Jones is still playing with two years under his belt as a starter. A tepid vote of confidence from BB is better than being cut or wasting threee of four top picks.

As a reminder the Vikings traded down with the Jets to get Darrisaw. We received the 66th and 68th pick.
The 66th pick was used on Mond who is long gone (pretty much a wasted pick. We could have had Mac Jones as QB2 with two years learning and also saved money). I am assuming the 68th was further gambled with

• Round 1, Pick 23: LT Christian Darrisaw
• Round 3, Pick 66: QB Kellen Mond (CUT)
• Round 3, Pick 78: LB Chazz Surratt (CUT)
• Round 3, Pick 86: G Wyatt Davis (CUT)

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"minny65" said: I remember one or two posters who were pissed we passed on Mac Jones.  I didn't see a lovefest on here for him.  On the other hand, I was in Love with Wilson who is flopping although he went to the worst situation of all the QB's.  

Our Kirk contract situation really prohibited us from using high draft capital on a QB of the future two years ago.  We are locked into to Kirk through next year, so this draft is a perfect time to be proactive and look to the future.  I am no college draft guy but their seems to be a good number of QB's coming out with 3 going top 10 easily.  

We should be locked to Kirk. The guy has balled for us for what 5 years now?

How locked into a guy can you be that is already 35 yrs old and has the pocket awareness of a blind man.  Yes he has been super durable,   but that has a shelf life too and these pounding hes taken are going to be adding up and taking a toll. I dont necessarily agree with MB that he's gonna play for another 5+ years,   i think at any time he could get a concussion or some other injury that scares them, and his wife says that's enough and he just walks away.  He's a cerebral person and imo thats the type that is constantly in a state of self evaluation,   weighing the persoanl risks with the personal rewards.

If Mullens isn't the plan to replace KC in 24 or 25,  then they need to make a hard move to get that guy in house and learning from KC...hopefully just not the shrewd contract negotiations part.

@"minny65" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"minny65" said: I remember one or two posters who were pissed we passed on Mac Jones.  I didn't see a lovefest on here for him.  On the other hand, I was in Love with Wilson who is flopping although he went to the worst situation of all the QB's.  

Our Kirk contract situation really prohibited us from using high draft capital on a QB of the future two years ago.  We are locked into to Kirk through next year, so this draft is a perfect time to be proactive and look to the future.  I am no college draft guy but their seems to be a good number of QB's coming out with 3 going top 10 easily.  

We should be locked to Kirk. The guy has balled for us for what 5 years now?

I would like a progression plan if a QB we really like is there in late first.  You can still let Kirk play on his contract next year and then you have options at the end of that season.  This year was/is critical for Kirk and no doubt he has played/won up to his contract this year so far.  

@"mblack" said: I was one of those that wanted Mac Jones. Again not to have him start but have him sit for a year or two and take over or give us leverage for Cousins or trade capital later. There was absolutely no downside to drafting Mac Jones. I still think it was a missed opportunity especially after the Mond pick. We could have had Darrisaw and Jones both.

To those that use BB statement as vindication, at least Jones is still playing with two years under his belt as a starter. A tepid vote of confidence from BB is better than being cut or wasting threee of four top picks.

As a reminder the Vikings traded down with the Jets to get Darrisaw. We received the 66th and 68th pick.
The 66th pick was used on Mond who is long gone (pretty much a wasted pick. We could have had Mac Jones as QB2 with two years learning and also saved money). I am assuming the 68th was further gambled with

• Round 1, Pick 23: LT Christian Darrisaw
• Round 3, Pick 66: QB Kellen Mond (CUT)
• Round 3, Pick 78: LB Chazz Surratt (CUT)
• Round 3, Pick 86: G Wyatt Davis (CUT)

Mac Jones is a dirty player - Compilation video from 4 different incidents from his two-year career. pic.twitter.com/LFDUugodvA

— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) December 25, 2022

Update: The league will review Mac Jones for a possible fine for his low hit on #Bengals CB Eli Apple (second incident in the video), per @RapSheet and @TomPelissero

— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) December 26, 2022

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1607046586210598912?t=FR5wQF-vJByA6F_ZMgdejw&s=19