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Good article on Allen's elbow

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Says he'll miss 3ish games based on sound reasoning from things we know so far.  The article is to long to paste the whole thing but worth the read.

https://bangedupbills.com/2022/11/08/josh-allens-elbow-injury/?amp=1

I project Josh Allen to miss at least three games as he rehabs from this injury. 

This would give him 24 days from the date of injury which is on par with the research showing 26.4 days to return.
The fact that he could still throw a football 70 yards in the air with a
sprained UCL strongly suggests the injury is not as severe as in 2018.

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speaking of that 70 yard throw...
https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1590055638637608960?s=20&t=S4wTlt9UCph7Q-cmdtCS2A

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@"greediron" said: speaking of that 70 yard throw... https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1590055638637608960?s=20&t=S4wTlt9UCph7Q-cmdtCS2A


Is that really that big of a mark for pro QB getting a running start at the throw? 

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"greediron" said: speaking of that 70 yard throw... https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1590055638637608960?s=20&t=S4wTlt9UCph7Q-cmdtCS2A


Is that really that big of a mark for pro QB getting a running start at the throw? 


70 yards on the money?  Yeah anyone can throw that.

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@"greediron" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"greediron" said: speaking of that 70 yard throw... https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1590055638637608960?s=20&t=S4wTlt9UCph7Q-cmdtCS2A


Is that really that big of a mark for pro QB getting a running start at the throw? 


70 yards on the money?  Yeah anyone can throw that.


how much of that was accuracy vs the receiver just running under the ball.  It was a good throw,  but its not likely he is able to drop them into buckets from that distance with regularity.  the big wow is more likely that his arm is falling off and he was still able to make that throw,  not the distance that some seems to be wowing some people.

Edit,  looking again the receiver had checked up waiting for it and was fighting the defender when the ball arrived.   so basically it wasnt a really accurate throw as much as it was just thrown as far as his ailing arm would allow.

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Looks like the Vikes catch a break again.  Sure Allen will be missed throwing the ball, but he also leads the team in rushing too.  There's no way Case can run the offense the way Allen can.  Hopefully the Vikes can shut down the run then get after Case on obvious passing downs.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"greediron" said: speaking of that 70 yard throw... https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1590055638637608960?s=20&t=S4wTlt9UCph7Q-cmdtCS2A


Is that really that big of a mark for pro QB getting a running start at the throw? 


i heard a yiung Joe Namath could throw a 60 yard rope from his knees. never saw him play but he supposedly had amazing arm strength 

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@"HappyViking" said: Looks like the Vikes catch a break again.  Sure Allen will be missed throwing the ball, but he also leads the team in rushing too.  There's no way Case can run the offense the way Allen can.  Hopefully the Vikes can shut down the run then get after Case on obvious passing downs.


Agree. Allen has been error-prone the last couple weeks, but he forces a defense to play the whole field. You need to spy him AND you need to play deep. That's not the case with Case. Actually, I think it will be a similar defense to last week. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"HappyViking" said: Looks like the Vikes catch a break again.  Sure Allen will be missed throwing the ball, but he also leads the team in rushing too.  There's no way Case can run the offense the way Allen can.  Hopefully the Vikes can shut down the run then get after Case on obvious passing downs.


Agree. Allen has been error-prone the last couple weeks, but he forces a defense to play the whole field. You need to spy him AND you need to play deep. That's not the case with Case. Actually, I think it will be a similar defense to last week. 


I haven't watched CK for a couple years,  does he not improvise with his legs as much as he once did?

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@"NorthernCalVike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"greediron" said: speaking of that 70 yard throw... https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1590055638637608960?s=20&t=S4wTlt9UCph7Q-cmdtCS2A


Is that really that big of a mark for pro QB getting a running start at the throw? 


i heard a yiung Joe Namath could throw a 60 yard rope from his knees. never saw him play but he supposedly had amazing arm strength 


I asker a co worker that was a small school QB and played in NFL Europe,  and he said he could throw 70 pretty easy in college.  What was that kid from LSU about 10 years ago that went to the raiders,  didnt he throw like 70 from his knees or some such shit?  Had no smarts but a cannon for an arm.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"HappyViking" said: Looks like the Vikes catch a break again.  Sure Allen will be missed throwing the ball, but he also leads the team in rushing too.  There's no way Case can run the offense the way Allen can.  Hopefully the Vikes can shut down the run then get after Case on obvious passing downs.


Agree. Allen has been error-prone the last couple weeks, but he forces a defense to play the whole field. You need to spy him AND you need to play deep. That's not the case with Case. Actually, I think it will be a similar defense to last week. 


I haven't watched CK for a couple years,  does he not improvise with his legs as much as he once did?


No, he does! A lot. He's very similar to Heinicke in that. No deep arm with any kind of accuracy, nor is he a running QB who can get you 30, but he's deadly underneath and elusive in the pocket. 

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@"NorthernCalVike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"greediron" said: speaking of that 70 yard throw... https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1590055638637608960?s=20&t=S4wTlt9UCph7Q-cmdtCS2A


Is that really that big of a mark for pro QB getting a running start at the throw? 


i heard a yiung Joe Namath could throw a 60 yard rope from his knees. never saw him play but he supposedly had amazing arm strength 


Uncle Rico could throw it over the mountain, or so he said.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"NorthernCalVike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"greediron" said: speaking of that 70 yard throw... https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1590055638637608960?s=20&t=S4wTlt9UCph7Q-cmdtCS2A


Is that really that big of a mark for pro QB getting a running start at the throw? 


i heard a yiung Joe Namath could throw a 60 yard rope from his knees. never saw him play but he supposedly had amazing arm strength 


I asker a co worker that was a small school QB and played in NFL Europe,  and he said he could throw 70 pretty easy in college.  What was that kid from LSU about 10 years ago that went to the raiders,  didnt he throw like 70 from his knees or some such shit?  Had no smarts but a cannon for an arm.

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@"NorthernCalVike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"greediron" said: speaking of that 70 yard throw... https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1590055638637608960?s=20&t=S4wTlt9UCph7Q-cmdtCS2A


Is that really that big of a mark for pro QB getting a running start at the throw? 


i heard a yiung Joe Namath could throw a 60 yard rope from his knees. never saw him play but he supposedly had amazing arm strength 


Namath did have an amazing arm and his release was so quick. 

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Buffalo can play coy all they want, but what is the upside to rush Allen back? None. You have a decent backup and the game is at home against a good opponent who has a bunch of close victories. Its not like Buffalo can't win with Keenum. You'll need Allen for the stretch run and playoffs. It would be a colossally stupid move to play Josh Allen Sunday. I'll be shocked if it happens. One week out should be expected and that's this weekend.

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well he’s officially listed as “questionable”…  :o go figure

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@"Kentis" said: well he’s officially listed as “questionable”…  :o go figure
McDermott is playing games. 
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   Not sure Case is the certain replacement.     

                     
                    

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