Misc. Thoughts: Cardinals

Trust me...Dantzler is as immature as you can imagine. 

But for his sake, I'm glad its a better environment for him and I hope he can grow into a db that warrants a 2nd contract.

I think Dalvin is just hitting his stride for the year, hope I can say the same about Hunter soon. He may very well be a player out of position in the new scheme. 

And I thought he would transition well too. 

So far he's put up 23 solo tackles (tied for 138th) and 3 sacks (tied for 48th).  Thats not screaming for handing him another big bag any time soon.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/2976560/danielle-hunter

It's too bad we can't meld Wonnum and Patrick Jones...  Wonnum is the much better run defender (Jones gets sucked inside too much and doesn't contain) but Jones appears to be the superior pass rusher.  Hopefully these guys can keep developing in both areas.

Was it Dantzler or PP?

As soon as Minnesota's Harrison Smith began his interception return, Patrick Peterson turned to the Arizona sideline with his arms in the air and his legs dancing to celebrate.
Read more at: https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/article268075422.html#storylink=cpy

It was Peterson that threw his hands up and was celebrating while Smith was trying to return the interception...

DJ Wonnum is the better player right now, I think he's underrated with the fan base. 

@"ThunderGod" said: Was it Dantzler or PP?

As soon as Minnesota's Harrison Smith began his interception return, Patrick Peterson turned to the Arizona sideline with his arms in the air and his legs dancing to celebrate. Read more at: https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/article268075422.html#storylink=cpy

yes, it was PP, not Danzler.  So Great Oracle, the premise of your comment on Danzler in this particular case was off.  Everything else pretty spot on.

@"Montana Tom" said:

@"ThunderGod" said: Was it Dantzler or PP?

As soon as Minnesota's Harrison Smith began his interception return, Patrick Peterson turned to the Arizona sideline with his arms in the air and his legs dancing to celebrate. Read more at: https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/article268075422.html#storylink=cpy

yes, it was PP, not Danzler.  So Great Oracle, the premise of your comment on Danzler in this particular case was off.  Everything else pretty spot on.

@"VikingOracle" said:

@"Montana Tom" said:

@"ThunderGod" said: Was it Dantzler or PP?

As soon as Minnesota's Harrison Smith began his interception return, Patrick Peterson turned to the Arizona sideline with his arms in the air and his legs dancing to celebrate. Read more at: https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/article268075422.html#storylink=cpy

yes, it was PP, not Danzler.  So Great Oracle, the premise of your comment on Danzler in this particular case was off.  Everything else pretty spot on.

See what happens when a narrative gets in your head....... I stand corrected.  Shame on PP.

I give PP a pass on this one.  It sounded to me like he was out to pay the Cardinals back for letting him go and dis-respecting him and his all pro services.

Just surprised the great referee crew didnt see it and call him for taunting.

I agree with the Small Nitpick, I thought a couple of times Cook cut into more tacklers and could have picked up more yards and he cut the opposite direction. Maybe it’s a coaching thing? I don’t remember him doing that in the past.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"VikingOracle" said:

@"Montana Tom" said:

@"ThunderGod" said: Was it Dantzler or PP?

As soon as Minnesota's Harrison Smith began his interception return, Patrick Peterson turned to the Arizona sideline with his arms in the air and his legs dancing to celebrate. Read more at: https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/article268075422.html#storylink=cpy

yes, it was PP, not Danzler.  So Great Oracle, the premise of your comment on Danzler in this particular case was off.  Everything else pretty spot on.

See what happens when a narrative gets in your head....... I stand corrected.  Shame on PP.

Yabbut I remember Dantzler doing something like this too. Maybe it was on a different pick. 

@"Riphawkins" said: I agree with the Small Nitpick, I thought a couple of times Cook cut into more tacklers and could have picked up more yards and he cut the opposite direction. 

Maybe it’s a coaching thing? I don’t remember him doing that in the past.

I agree also. I think it may be a lack of patience more than a lack of vision. I think he made up for it by doing something he almost never does. He usually runs out of bounds when near the sidelines. Sunday he stayed in and gained a few more yards a couple of times. Can't say I blame him for stepping out and avoiding extra punishment though.
I remember Mattison making the wrong cuts his first year, but not so much anymore.

@"Riphawkins" said: I agree with the Small Nitpick, I thought a couple of times Cook cut into more tacklers and could have picked up more yards and he cut the opposite direction. 

Maybe it’s a coaching thing? I don’t remember him doing that in the past.

On his big 30 yard run he should have went to the sideline, but for whatever reason he cut back inside.  Perhaps he thought he could get by the safety that way, but ran into other traffic.  It is easy in hindsight and looking from above, but maybe not so easy in real time.  He does seem to relish contact tho as he tried to run over Baker.

@"greediron" said:

@"Riphawkins" said: I agree with the Small Nitpick, I thought a couple of times Cook cut into more tacklers and could have picked up more yards and he cut the opposite direction. 

Maybe it’s a coaching thing? I don’t remember him doing that in the past.

On his big 30 yard run he should have went to the sideline, but for whatever reason he cut back inside.  Perhaps he thought he could get by the safety that way, but ran into other traffic.  It is easy in hindsight and looking from above, but maybe not so easy in real time.  He does seem to relish contact tho as he tried to run over Baker.

Another small nitpick here, does anybody else wonder when Greg Joseph trots out onto the field if he is going to make it or not.  Granted most of his kicks that have been missed have been close to 50+ but come on Greg at least make the extra point uneventful.

@"greediron" said:

@"Riphawkins" said: I agree with the Small Nitpick, I thought a couple of times Cook cut into more tacklers and could have picked up more yards and he cut the opposite direction. 

Maybe it’s a coaching thing? I don’t remember him doing that in the past.

On his big 30 yard run he should have went to the sideline, but for whatever reason he cut back inside.  Perhaps he thought he could get by the safety that way, but ran into other traffic.  It is easy in hindsight and looking from above, but maybe not so easy in real time.  He does seem to relish contact tho as he tried to run over Baker.

@"Greylock" said: Another small nitpick here, does anybody else wonder when Greg Joseph trots out onto the field if he is going to make it or not.  Granted most of his kicks that have been missed have been close to 50+ but come on Greg at least make the extra point uneventful.

You know, I am not that worried about the kicking being ironed out.  From my totally novice point of view,  it seems to me that on the kicks he misses, the snap seems to be a little too much towards the holder, not inaccurate but enough to throw off a little bit of the timing.  Again, take this with a grain of salt -- maybe I just have much more confidence in this coaching staff.