Murray trade to Arizona

Nobody is trading for Murray. He's just a guy. The Cardinals have already committed to someone else. Murray isn't going to sniff many snaps in Minnesota because what does he do well? Not much. Speaks volumes that Cook, although an excellent rookie, can beat out a vet like Murray. 

Spielman either hits it out of the park or fails in epic fashion with his draft picks and FA signings.

so far, he puts it on the carpet on 50% of his carry's

I would say he is a step above "a guy" -- rushed for 1,066 yards and six touchdowns in 2015 and 788 yards and 12 touchdowns last year. He also caught a combined 74 passes for 496 yards over those seasons.  

Murray has value, but screw the cardinals.  We may end up needing Murray at some point and a 4th or 5th or 6th isn't worth losing a solid RB.

And is Asiata even available?  Thought he was on a roster.

@"greediron" said: Murray has value, but screw the cardinals.  We may end up needing Murray at some point and a 4th or 5th or 6th isn't worth losing a solid RB.

And is Asiata even available?  Thought he was on a roster.

Asiata got cut by the Lions...

holy shit... 1 game in from a rookie and we are shopping our veteran back for peanuts in a year that some think we can actually make some noise?

anybody remember that little (very real) thing referred to as the rookie wall?  we are going to need more than Cook and McKinnon if we hope to play more than just 16 games this year.

I say unless somebody is willing to really over spend,  no way in hell does Murray get traded,  his running style will be needed. and he can take some snaps later in games to save some tread on the rookie when we are letting the air out of the ball.

No one's trading anything of value for Murray, I bet if the cards wanted to trade for AD they could get him for a late round pick.

@"Bolstad79" said: No one's trading anything of value for Murray, I bet if the cards wanted to trade for AD they could get him for a late round pick.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Bolstad79" said: No one's trading anything of value for Murray, I bet if the cards wanted to trade for AD they could get him for a late round pick.

I would take Murray over AD at this point in their careers.  Murrays versatility will be much better in most offenses than what we've seen from AD in the last few years.

@"Bolstad79" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Bolstad79" said: No one's trading anything of value for Murray, I bet if the cards wanted to trade for AD they could get him for a late round pick.

I would take Murray over AD at this point in their careers.  Murrays versatility will be much better in most offenses than what we've seen from AD in the last few years.

And that's fine for you, if I was AZ and I just lost a guy for the season I would take AD over Murray because it's only for a season. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Bolstad79" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Bolstad79" said: No one's trading anything of value for Murray, I bet if the cards wanted to trade for AD they could get him for a late round pick.

I would take Murray over AD at this point in their careers.  Murrays versatility will be much better in most offenses than what we've seen from AD in the last few years.

And that's fine for you, if I was AZ and I just lost a guy for the season I would take AD over Murray because it's only for a season. 

how does AD fit better in AZ than Murray though?  AZs offense is similar to ours in that it requires the RB to be a receiver and pass blocker as much or more than a ball carrier.  I cant really think of many teams that really play smash mouth football anymore.  pretty limited for AD out there.

lets trade the whole team!!!

@"Bolstad79" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Bolstad79" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Bolstad79" said: No one's trading anything of value for Murray, I bet if the cards wanted to trade for AD they could get him for a late round pick.

I would take Murray over AD at this point in their careers.  Murrays versatility will be much better in most offenses than what we've seen from AD in the last few years.

And that's fine for you, if I was AZ and I just lost a guy for the season I would take AD over Murray because it's only for a season. 

how does AD fit better in AZ than Murray though?  AZs offense is similar to ours in that it requires the RB to be a receiver and pass blocker as much or more than a ball carrier.  I cant really think of many teams that really play smash mouth football anymore.  pretty limited for AD out there.

They will not be winning with that style of play without Johnson, and Murray wouldn't help that.  Adrian might force defenses to respect the run and take pressure of Palmer.

Arizona has a defense, they won't get down as fast as the Saints and be forced to throw the ball.  I'm also still glad they pulled him after those first 2 runs, I don't get why Payton did that.

He is RB depth, nothing more.

@"Vikes45" said: He is RB depth, nothing more.

@"VikingOracle" said: I would say he is a step above "a guy" -- rushed for 1,066 yards and six touchdowns in 2015 and 788 yards and 12 touchdowns last year. He also caught a combined 74 passes for 496 yards over those seasons.  

I think it would be a big mistake for us to trade Murray. I don't think the Monday night opener is any sort of barometer of what we can expect from Murray, not just with regard to his fumble but also with the amount of carries he will be getting. He's got a place on this team. I think there's no doubt we need our 3 RBs. Injuries make it so. 

Agree with all the "no trade" votes, but another point / question: COULD we trade him? I honestly cannot remember a case of someone signing a UFA (a significant one) and trading him within the first season. I know, Seahawks traded Brock to us, but he was a lower-level FA and they probably told him he was either getting traded or cut.

I've assumed that most veterans who go somewhere as a UFA have contract clauses that give them control over being traded. These guys picked their team in free agency, so they wouldn't want to lose their choice and just get shipped to Cleveland. If this is true, either Murray or Peterson would have to approve any trade.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Vikes45" said: He is RB depth, nothing more.

he was slated to be our starter until we lucked into Cook.  probably not to many teams with the RB depth that we have.  maybe the Saints.

@"Bolstad79" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Vikes45" said: He is RB depth, nothing more.

he was slated to be our starter until we lucked into Cook.  probably not to many teams with the RB depth that we have.  maybe the Saints.

We also wanted Lacy before we wanted Murray, and Oakland let him walk for very little.