Detroit is going to be a tough game

Yep. Detroit isn't the team it used to be. They've got a really good OL, Swift is one of the best backs in the NFL and that Amon-Ra guy is off to a great start. They played Philly better than we did. 

I think the game will be a good indicator of who we really are. Are we closer to the team that beat up on GB, or are closer to the team that shit the bed in almost every possible way last night?

Yes, this is not a gimme game by any stretch...KOC better have em ready. 

@"PurpleCrush" said: I think the game will be a good indicator of who we really are. Are we closer to the team that beat up on GB, or are closer to the team that shit the bed in almost every possible way last night?

The team isn't as good as they played against GB & not as bad as they looked last nite.

@"MaroonBells" said: Yep. Detroit isn't the team it used to be. They've got a really good OL, Swift is one of the best backs in the NFL and that Amon-Ra guy is off to a great start. They played Philly better than we did. 

And Hutchinson looks like the second coming of Jared Allen. When/if they get Jameson Williams back to add to the rest of their roster talent, watch out. Brad Holmes has done an excellent job building that roster and injecting young talent. 

I really think the Vikes are in trouble Sunday if Hitman can't play. That and the OL better show up. Hutchinson is a monster.

@"supafreak84" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Yep. Detroit isn't the team it used to be. They've got a really good OL, Swift is one of the best backs in the NFL and that Amon-Ra guy is off to a great start. They played Philly better than we did. 

And Hutchinson looks like the second coming of Jared Allen. When/if they get Jameson Williams back to add to the rest of their roster talent, watch out. Brad Holmes has done an excellent job building that roster and injecting young talent. 

Can Cousins deal in a shootout type game?  I dont have a lot of confidence in our D shutting the lions down, thankfully Goff isnt much more mobile than Cousins,  but Kirk is playing like there is a Randy Ration with JJ,  he seems hell bent on getting the ball to JJ regardless of what the D is doing.  I dont have access to the all 22,  but I have to think that if JJ is getting the coverage that we saw last night that there were pre snap signs to that affect and that there were likely better candidates to be looking to early in the process instead of looking to go to JJ and only coming off if it was completely taken away.

Well if you like the Vikings, the line has dropped from -8 opener all the way down to -5 in some places.  Could go further, not sure.   Would wait before betting, I think more Lions money is on the way.

@"Knucklehead" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said: I think the game will be a good indicator of who we really are. Are we closer to the team that beat up on GB, or are closer to the team that shit the bed in almost every possible way last night?

The team isn't as good as they played against GB & not as bad as they looked last nite.

@"PurpleCrush" said:

@"Knucklehead" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said: I think the game will be a good indicator of who we really are. Are we closer to the team that beat up on GB, or are closer to the team that shit the bed in almost every possible way last night?

The team isn't as good as they played against GB & not as bad as they looked last nite.

If so then they're no better than a .500 team. Still a lot of football left, hopefully they can iron out some of the kinks because 3 out of the next 4 games are definitely a challenge.  

@"AGRforever" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said:

@"Knucklehead" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said: I think the game will be a good indicator of who we really are. Are we closer to the team that beat up on GB, or are closer to the team that shit the bed in almost every possible way last night?

The team isn't as good as they played against GB & not as bad as they looked last nite.

If so then they're no better than a .500 team. Still a lot of football left, hopefully they can iron out some of the kinks because 3 out of the next 4 games are definitely a challenge.  

All new coaches and systems. I wouldn’t be entirely disappointed with .500

Detroit almost beat Philly and ran all over them.  They've put up over 30pts in their first two games.  I wouldn't be surprised if we lose by 7 to 10 points.  That Monday night game showed a very soft Viking team that doesn't like getting punched in the nose, and I fully expect Detroit will come out swinging.

@"HappyViking" said: Detroit almost beat Philly and ran all over them.  They've put up over 30pts in their first two games.  I wouldn't be surprised if we lose by 7 to 10 points.  That Monday night game showed a very soft Viking team that doesn't like getting punched in the nose, and I fully expect Detroit will come out swinging.

I have major concerns about the defense and I hate the game Donatell called Monday night. But I think we win at least 2 of the next 3...Vikings @ home is a vastly different team than on the road on MNF. 

We also just dont match-up well with an RPO and its not shameful to lose to a team that is probably top 4 in NFC in their house. 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"HappyViking" said: Detroit almost beat Philly and ran all over them.  They've put up over 30pts in their first two games.  I wouldn't be surprised if we lose by 7 to 10 points.  That Monday night game showed a very soft Viking team that doesn't like getting punched in the nose, and I fully expect Detroit will come out swinging.

I have major concerns about the defense and I hate the game Donatell called Monday night. But I think we win at least 2 of the next 3...Vikings @ home is a vastly different team than on the road on MNF. 

We also just dont match-up well with an RPO and its not shameful to lose to a team that is probably top 4 in NFC in their house. 

@"HappyViking" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"HappyViking" said: Detroit almost beat Philly and ran all over them.  They've put up over 30pts in their first two games.  I wouldn't be surprised if we lose by 7 to 10 points.  That Monday night game showed a very soft Viking team that doesn't like getting punched in the nose, and I fully expect Detroit will come out swinging.

I have major concerns about the defense and I hate the game Donatell called Monday night. But I think we win at least 2 of the next 3...Vikings @ home is a vastly different team than on the road on MNF. 

We also just dont match-up well with an RPO and its not shameful to lose to a team that is probably top 4 in NFC in their house. 

I agree, but our offense couldn't run the ball one bit Monday night, and that caused a bunch of problems with Kirk and the passing game. 

Maybe the Philly game was a fluke, and the Vikes bounce back, but I don't trust them yet.  Was the Packer game a version of the "real" Vikes, or was it the MNF game?  Maybe both, but that's a huge contrast.
I won't be surprised if the Vikes win, but I won't be surprised if Detroit beats them by 10 either.

I don’t know that I buy that the Vikings defense played better in the second half just because the Eagles didn’t score.  

We got the ball at the beginning of the second half and drove the field only to be intercepted and the Eagles then drove back down the field to get a field goal blocked.  By the time this had all occurred, the third quarter was nearing an end.  The forth quarter was full of turn overs.  I believe the Eagles were only forced to punt twice by our defense.

I did hear where the Vikings did make some defensive adjustments but we still remained in the shell coverage and played the bend don’t break defense that everyone loves.

@"ThunderGod" said: I don’t know that I buy that the Vikings defense played better in the second half just because the Eagles didn’t score.  

We got the ball at the beginning of the second half and drove the field only to be intercepted and the Eagles then drove back down the field to get a field goal blocked.  By the time this had all occurred, the third quarter was nearing an end.  The forth quarter was full of turn overs.  I believe the Eagles were only forced to punt twice by our defense.

I did hear where the Vikings did make some defensive adjustments but we still remained in the shell coverage and played the bend don’t break defense that everyone loves.

I fully agree.  Kirk just got worse as the game went on and he seemed to give up in the 4th quarter by the way he was lobbing balls to a very covered JJ.
Yeah, the Eagles didn't score in the 2nd half, but I think they called off the dogs a bit because they didn't really need more points.  It looked like men vs boys the entire game including the 2nd half.
It's early, but I don't think this team is anywhere near a playoff caliber team.  Hopefully they can get better as the season progresses, but that MNF game looked very familiar to the Zimmer coached teams these past couple seasons.

As someone mentioned above, I was surprised we couldn’t run on Philly after Swift and Jamaal Williams torched them the week before. Hoping for a big bounceback from Dalvin and the O-line this week. Without that, this will be a tough game to win. 

@"HappyViking" said:

@"ThunderGod" said: I don’t know that I buy that the Vikings defense played better in the second half just because the Eagles didn’t score.  

We got the ball at the beginning of the second half and drove the field only to be intercepted and the Eagles then drove back down the field to get a field goal blocked.  By the time this had all occurred, the third quarter was nearing an end.  The forth quarter was full of turn overs.  I believe the Eagles were only forced to punt twice by our defense.

I did hear where the Vikings did make some defensive adjustments but we still remained in the shell coverage and played the bend don’t break defense that everyone loves.

I fully agree.  Kirk just got worse as the game went on and he seemed to give up in the 4th quarter by the way he was lobbing balls to a very covered JJ.
Yeah, the Eagles didn't score in the 2nd half, but I think they called off the dogs a bit because they didn't really need more points.  It looked like men vs boys the entire game including the 2nd half.
It's early, but I don't think this team is anywhere near a playoff caliber team.  Hopefully they can get better as the season progresses, but that MNF game looked very familiar to the Zimmer coached teams these past couple seasons.