Ingram and Cine with the first team
Today’s #Vikings walk-thru featured two rookies working with the first team: Ed Ingram at RG and Lewis Cine at S. I wouldn’t rip up your home depth chart quite yet, but worth noting.
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Is this really a bump, or is it just a veteran day for the guys ahead of them?
#Vikings offensive coordinator Wes Phillips on Ed Ingram today doing some reps during the walkthrough with the first team: "He's very stout. He's got a great anchor. He's just getting better every day."
— Chris Tomasson (@christomasson) August 7, 2022
@"JimmyinSD" said: Is this really a bump, or is it just a veteran day for the guys ahead of them?It's a vet day. But it is also planning for the future. Nobody knows when that day will come but it may be soon for Peterson, Davis and Smith, if the young guys do well. Based solely on draft position, Cine and Ingram should be ready to start sooner rather than later.
I think Ingram slipped a bit in the Draft because of that incident in his past. Starting on the O-line at LSU is no joke. Can't remember the last time I heard someone refer to one of the Viking's guards as 'very stout' and having a 'great anchor'. Its borderline sports porn.
@"StickyBun" said: I think Ingram slipped a bit in the Draft because of that incident in his past. Starting on the O-line at LSU is no joke. Can't remember the last time I heard someone refer to one of the Viking's guards as 'very stout' and having a 'great anchor'. Its borderline sports porn.
I'm stealing that line :p
@"StickyBun" said: I think Ingram slipped a bit in the Draft because of that incident in his past. Starting on the O-line at LSU is no joke. Can't remember the last time I heard someone refer to one of the Viking's guards as 'very stout' and having a 'great anchor'. Its borderline sports porn.Nothing borderline about it as a Viking fan.
I don't really buy into preseason hype but I am so hopeful Ingram is the real deal.
@"StickyBun" said: I think Ingram slipped a bit in the Draft because of that incident in his past. Starting on the O-line at LSU is no joke. Can't remember the last time I heard someone refer to one of the Viking's guards as 'very stout' and having a 'great anchor'. Its borderline sports porn.I dont know that he slipped much if it all. Gil Brandt had him late 70s if I remember correctly and he's still well connected in NFL circles. Considering the allegations that led to his college suspension, the dude better be a Pro Bowler and be a great person to show that he isn't what he was alleged. I'm still not a fan of the pick. Hoping he proves me wrong.
In many of the Vikings' practices, though, O'Connell has included a full-team period that matches up the team's starting offense against its second-team defense, or its defensive starters against its No. 2 offense.It's where Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson have put some of the team's second-string defensive backs through their toughest work, and where second-year quarterback Kellen Mond made perhaps his best throw of training camp, beating Cameron Dantzler with a throw to Albert Wilson as Mond rolled to his left away from pressure.
The starters-versus-backups snaps have several purposes, O'Connell said, but one of the main objectives is an opportunity to test players the Vikings might need — or want — to become starters later this season.
"You can really see guys establish themselves and deserve to be in that first huddle, possibly, by those reps," O'Connell said. "Everybody wants to talk about guys being in those first huddles in end of July, early August – it really matters at the end of this month – but those ones versus twos allow us a lot of times to see matchups that maybe you don't see, see young guys respond.
"It's not like we're splitting this playbook in half; we're running every single Minnesota Vikings play right now to digest it all, to do their best to learn it and then go try to play fast, and then we coach it up on the tape and see if we can limit the fact that we're not making the same mistake over and over again. If we can fix those things and guys can move forward, maybe we can start working them into those competitive ones-versus-ones periods."
It's a philosophy O'Connell said he learned through different stops as a player and coach around the NFL. He said one of the reasons for the Vikings' large coaching staff — the team has 24 assistants on its roster — is so the team can have as small of a player-to-coach ratio as possible, giving even the Vikings' reserves access to detailed instruction.
His message to the Vikings' No. 2 units in those practice periods?
"They're not a scout team," he said. "There's no rules that say they're not allowed to go try to win that drill."
https://www.startribune.com/vikings-starters-vs-reserves-training-camp-kevin-oconnell-night-workout/600196771/
Pretty good philosophy, especially the coach-to-player ratio. Maximize the learning opportunities. See who can grow. KOC got handed a pretty good football team with great facilities and a strong fanbase. Patient ownership who will go and pay for talent. A great area to live for raising his kids. Its up to him and the staff what they do with it, but this is a sweet opportunity without debate.
@"StickyBun" said: Pretty good philosophy, especially the coach-to-player ratio. Maximize the learning opportunities. See who can grow. KOC got handed a pretty good football team with great facilities and a strong fanbase. Patient ownership who will go and pay for talent. A great area to live for raising his kids. Its up to him and the staff what they do with it, but this is a sweet opportunity without debate.What struck me (and its obvious in retrospect) is the chance to coach up the mistakes and see how well they adapt to a full playbook.
If they cant grasp the plays and correct mistakes? Good luck making the roster.
Man, looked up Ingram's Draft profile again: he's the perfect sized OG. 6'3", 320 lbs. Strong kid, too. Fingers crossed. Then draft this kid next year and you've got one hell of an O-line:
https://www.si.com/college/notredame/football/notre-dame-football-draft-evaluation-center-jarrett-patterson
It was reported again yesterday that Ingram got some time with the 1s at RG and Reed went to the 2s. Not vet rest for Reed either. A good sign. Long preseason yet to go but if Ingram can continue to show well in August, he may be hard to keep off the field in late September.
@"StickyBun" said: It was reported again yesterday that Ingram got some time with the 1s at RG and Reed went to the 2s. Not vet rest for Reed either. A good sign. Long preseason yet to go but if Ingram can continue to show well in August, he may be hard to keep off the field in late September.Hard to know whether this is Ingram actually earning 1st teams reps or the team giving him every opportunity to justify the high pick, but either way, it's not bad news. He stands a decent chance to be the starter week one.
Even better news is all the raves Darrisaw seems to be getting. The general vibe is that when he gets beat, he always seems to have the juice to recover. That's a really really good sign. Everyone gets beat, but not everyone has the athleticism to recover and win the rep. As he learns, he'll get beat less and less often, but the juice is always there when he needs it.
#Vikings tackle Brian O'Neill, a 2nd-round pick in 2018, started his first game as a rookie in Week 6. Guard Ezra Cleveland, a 2nd-round pick in 2020, started his first game as a rookie in Week 6. Could guard Ed Ingram, a 2nd-round pick in 2022, beat them both with Week 1 start?
— Chris Tomasson (@christomasson) August 10, 2022
Kevin O’Connell said rookie Ed Ingram earned right to get some first team snaps and it’s healthy competition with Jesse Davis at right guard
— Chris Tomasson (@christomasson) August 11, 2022
Can Jesse Davis play Center? If so, slide him over one spot to the left.
Mr. Ingram was kicking ass and taking names yesterday. Yep, against backups but nonetheless, handling whomever was in front of him. Like his trajectory.
@"StickyBun" said: Mr. Ingram was kicking ass and taking names yesterday. Yep, against backups but nonetheless, handling whomever was in front of him. Like his trajectory.
I didn't watch him much but I'll have to take a look. I see Ingram the same way I see Mond. His growth potential is exponential---Ooo...I like that. Sounds like school house rock or something--Anyway...get him in with the ones.
Here's a bunch of Ingram. FWIW, Kyle Hinton (68) looks pretty good here too.
About 80% of the snaps from Ed Ingram’s rookie debut. pic.twitter.com/NHirdmG82O
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