Ed Ingram
@"Vikergirl" said:Many times the charges are dropped because the party is indeed innocent of the charges, and there is a presumption of innocence in our legal system.@"JimmyinSD" said:I am so not surprised by that. Sharks sense blood in the water, they go in for the kill. Charges get dropped all the time and it is not always because something didn't happen. This is a disappointment to say the least.@"PurpleCrush" said:Really? Welcome to Minnesota tell me more about your alleged rapist tendencies? Couldn't that have waited? I know the allegations are disgusting, but why were the charges so late in coming and why were they dropped. I dont want to sound like I'm defending rapists here, but something here doesn't sound right, and for siefert to bring it up already is kinda in poor taste imo.@"purplefaithful" said:Already was, by Seifert...and it seemed awkward.@"pattersaur" said: Just read some extremely unsettling allegations against this guy from when he was 16… google his name and deadspin if you’re curious. Pretty graphic :/ Yup, its incredibly unsettling...He's going to get grilled by local press on it
@"Waterboy" said:Correct. Minors were involved so court sealed documents. We have no idea what actually happened so its unfair to say he has character issues. Was the pick itself a reach? Likely. Does he possess the characteristics needed to start? Yes. Love the fact that we have a boatload of guys competing for the LG, C, and RG positions@"Vikergirl" said:Many times the charges are dropped because the party is indeed innocent of the charges, and there is a presumption of innocence in our legal system.@"JimmyinSD" said:I am so not surprised by that. Sharks sense blood in the water, they go in for the kill. Charges get dropped all the time and it is not always because something didn't happen. This is a disappointment to say the least.@"PurpleCrush" said:Really? Welcome to Minnesota tell me more about your alleged rapist tendencies? Couldn't that have waited? I know the allegations are disgusting, but why were the charges so late in coming and why were they dropped. I dont want to sound like I'm defending rapists here, but something here doesn't sound right, and for siefert to bring it up already is kinda in poor taste imo.@"purplefaithful" said:Already was, by Seifert...and it seemed awkward.@"pattersaur" said: Just read some extremely unsettling allegations against this guy from when he was 16… google his name and deadspin if you’re curious. Pretty graphic :/ Yup, its incredibly unsettling...He's going to get grilled by local press on it
@"Waterboy" said:@"Vikergirl" said:Many times the charges are dropped because the party is indeed innocent of the charges, and there is a presumption of innocence in our legal system.@"JimmyinSD" said:I am so not surprised by that. Sharks sense blood in the water, they go in for the kill. Charges get dropped all the time and it is not always because something didn't happen. This is a disappointment to say the least.@"PurpleCrush" said:Really? Welcome to Minnesota tell me more about your alleged rapist tendencies? Couldn't that have waited? I know the allegations are disgusting, but why were the charges so late in coming and why were they dropped. I dont want to sound like I'm defending rapists here, but something here doesn't sound right, and for siefert to bring it up already is kinda in poor taste imo.@"purplefaithful" said:Already was, by Seifert...and it seemed awkward.@"pattersaur" said: Just read some extremely unsettling allegations against this guy from when he was 16… google his name and deadspin if you’re curious. Pretty graphic :/ Yup, its incredibly unsettling...He's going to get grilled by local press on itAnd that makes it an easy way to move on and act like nothing happened. Kind of a non prescription Ambien, helps you sleep at night.
Time will tell if he was the monster portrayed or a horny teenager or nothing at all.
The story will resurface if he was as shitty as the article made him out to be.
@"AGRforever" said: Time will tell if he was the monster portrayed or a horny teenager or nothing at all.The story will resurface if he was as shitty as the article made him out to be.
If he owns it when questioned by the media, it will be fine. Hopefully he has matured greatly. I like his upside, he can be a starter.
I think in this town with its history of having sex abuse and rape scandals in its sports scene you find a different player to draft. There were MANY players of equal value we could have picked there.
@"StickyBun" said:@"AGRforever" said: Time will tell if he was the monster portrayed or a horny teenager or nothing at all.The story will resurface if he was as shitty as the article made him out to be.
If he owns it when questioned by the media, it will be fine. Hopefully he has matured greatly. I like his upside, he can be a starter.
Correct me if im wrong. With charges dropped, couldn’t he be recharged with new evidence? I’m sure his lawyer told him exactly what to say when questioned.
@"BigAl99" said:@"Waterboy" said:@"Vikergirl" said:Many times the charges are dropped because the party is indeed innocent of the charges, and there is a presumption of innocence in our legal system.@"JimmyinSD" said:I am so not surprised by that. Sharks sense blood in the water, they go in for the kill. Charges get dropped all the time and it is not always because something didn't happen. This is a disappointment to say the least.@"PurpleCrush" said:Really? Welcome to Minnesota tell me more about your alleged rapist tendencies? Couldn't that have waited? I know the allegations are disgusting, but why were the charges so late in coming and why were they dropped. I dont want to sound like I'm defending rapists here, but something here doesn't sound right, and for siefert to bring it up already is kinda in poor taste imo.@"purplefaithful" said:Already was, by Seifert...and it seemed awkward.@"pattersaur" said: Just read some extremely unsettling allegations against this guy from when he was 16… google his name and deadspin if you’re curious. Pretty graphic :/ Yup, its incredibly unsettling...He's going to get grilled by local press on itAnd that makes it an easy way to move on and act like nothing happened. Kind of a non prescription Ambien, helps you sleep at night.
@"StickyBun" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
Time will tell if he was the monster portrayed or a horny teenager or nothing at all.The story will resurface if he was as shitty as the article made him out to be.
If he owns it when questioned by the media, it will be fine. Hopefully he has matured greatly. I like his upside, he can be a starter.
@"Mike Olson" said:
I think in this town with its history of having sex abuse and rape scandals in its sports scene you find a different player to draft. There were MANY players of equal value we could have picked there.
So you discriminate against him in a town that was engulfed with racial riots even when he did nothing wrong?
@"AGRforever" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"AGRforever" said: Time will tell if he was the monster portrayed or a horny teenager or nothing at all.The story will resurface if he was as shitty as the article made him out to be.
If he owns it when questioned by the media, it will be fine. Hopefully he has matured greatly. I like his upside, he can be a starter.
Correct me if im wrong. With charges dropped, couldn’t he be recharged with new evidence? I’m sure his lawyer told him exactly what to say when questioned.
Depends upon the applicable statute of limitations (probably already passed). More likely he was told not to address the issue because if he said the two sisters lied, they could sue him for defamation and all the allegation would then become part of that litigation.
@"Mike Olson" said: I think in this town with its history of having sex abuse and rape scandals in its sports scene you find a different player to draft. There were MANY players of equal value we could have picked there.Why would Minneapolis be any different than any other town in this regard? I'm sure the team knows about it and they must have been satisfied with his response to questions about it. Very young people make stupid mistakes, this one ain't pretty but again charges were dropped.
Ridiculous to me that everyone just assumes he's guilty of what he's been accused of.
Kwesi said they did a lot of work on his background, but I personally wouldn’t have had the guy on my board. In my opinion, this was a poor pick in regards to where it was made.
@"Havoc1649" said: Kwesi said they did a lot of work on his background, but I personally wouldn’t have had the guy on my board. In my opinion, this was a poor pick in regards to where it was made.Yes, that's a more valid debate. I've seen some recaps giving this pick a C grade, but again hard to say yet. He's a LSU kid so he's talented.
@"Mike Olson" said: I think in this town with its history of having sex abuse and rape scandals in its sports scene you find a different player to draft. There were MANY players of equal value we could have picked there.Yes, off draft board completely.
@"StickyBun" said:I am thinking that thought might be in relationship to the U of MN where Antoine Winfield Jr. was one of the players charged then cleared. There were suspensions, a countersuit, a coach fired and a settlement.@"Mike Olson" said: I think in this town with its history of having sex abuse and rape scandals in its sports scene you find a different player to draft. There were MANY players of equal value we could have picked there. Why would Minneapolis be any different than any other town in this regard? I'm sure the team knows about it and they must have been satisfied with his response to questions about it. Very young people make stupid mistakes, this one ain't pretty but again charges were dropped.
There could be any number of ways the incident went down. I just don't want to deal with it when following my team. I follow sports as a distraction, If I want speculate on stuff like this I'll start watching "The Bold and The Beautiful" and see if Flo will get back in Wyatt's good graces. Enough is enough, is there no escape!
@"BigAl99" said: There could be any number of ways the incident went down. I just don't want to deal with it when following my team. I follow sports as a distraction, If I want speculate on stuff like this I'll start watching "The Bold and The Beautiful" and see if Flo will get back in Wyatt's good graces. Enough is enough, is there no escape!
O c'mon now...
We all know how easy it would be for Flo to get back in Wyatt's good graces for goodness sakes!
@"MaroonBells" said: Ridiculous to me that everyone just assumes he's guilty of what he's been accused of.Can't speak for anyone else, but I've seen guys drop much farther for less. They are allegations (charges dropped and docs sealed) so only a handful of people know what happened (or didn't happen). Just seems like a bad value to take him in the 2nd round... he is a good prospect but there were talented players there with clean backgrounds and no incest rape allegations in their past. It's ok to question if we should have drafted him when we did (or at all).
@"BigAl99" said: There could be any number of ways the incident went down. I just don't want to deal with it when following my team. I follow sports as a distraction, If I want speculate on stuff like this I'll start watching "The Bold and The Beautiful" and see if Flo will get back in Wyatt's good graces. Enough is enough, is there no escape!
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