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This is unfuckingreal. 

I get that you want to get value but by letting your div rivals get their guys? NO!

Is this thing STILL on?

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The answer is......the Bears and Vikings....

“Who are the teams that Kwesi DIDNT help in the 2022 draft”

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@"Mike Olson" said: This is unfuckingreal. 

I get that you want to get value but by letting your div rivals get their guys? NO!


i agree Mike. Never have i seen a team prop up division opponents in a draft. At least the Walker Trade was with a team not in our division. im speechless. In the military this would be called Treason. oh well. So Vikings. The more we hope for change the more things stay the same. Embrace the mediocrity 

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Green Bay is having a great draft. They have two Georgia studs who will haunt us for a long time.

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The draft so far feels to me like Kwesi is running for mayor of the NFC North. “Oh, please after you, Detroit. No, no after you Green Bay.” The picks so far feel like they are making the best of a bad situation. If you drop 20 spots, well, Cine is a good save. If you drop another 20 spots it seems like Booth kinda, sorta makes up for it. But man, what did we pass on to end up where we did? In some way I can’t really explain, I feel like this draft was more about KAM than the players drafted. 

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@"Caactorvike" said: The draft so far feels to me like Kwesi is running for mayor of the NFC North. “Oh, please after you, Detroit. No, no after you Green Bay.” The picks so far feel like they are making the best of a bad situation. If you drop 20 spots, well, Cine is a good save. If you drop another 20 spots it seems like Booth kinda, sorta makes up for it. But man, what did we pass on to end up where we did? In some way I can’t really explain, I feel like this draft was more about KAM than the players drafted. 
Perfectly stated
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Its really really......weird.

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I am happy with getting both Cine and Booth but other than that ho hum.  Also, the way we did it with division rivals sucks.  Don't like either of the last 2 picks.  The thing is no one knows until 3 years so it is a lottery ticket.  

As predicted well before the draft.....I don't care how bright someone is if they are inexperienced (which Kwesi certainly is in the NFL) mistakes are going to happen.

Just want to manage expectation for our new/inexperienced HC who is a first time HC and never called plays from what I have read.

I know many optimistic fans just think...Kwesi is a wall street "beautiful mind" expert analyst.  Hate to say it, but Spelly was also very analytical in finding many later round gems.  Also, I would think every team has analytical experts, so it really is all hype. Maybe Rick called his brother (Charles Christopher Spielman is a former American football player and is a special assistant to the owner and CEO for the Detroit Lions of the National Football League" and told him Kwesi is a mark so pounce 

I think Kwesi got big time schooled so far.  Which is not overly surprising to me.  He obviously doesn't have the contacts or historical expertise of doing the job and other GM's pounced.  Like the first two picks, though.  These same fans calculate or deduce that O'Connell is automatic 3 more game winner over the dysfunctional Zimmer....again let's manage expectations the mistakes will continue until moral improves (sorry had to use that one:)

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All the dropping and we ended up with what?  An extra 3rd for our trouble?  Who is to say that we couldn't have drafted Hamilton at 12 and Booth at 46?  Or even taking Williams at 12 and getting Booth in the 40s.  We'd all be pretty happy with that right now I'd have to guess. 

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@"Mike Olson" said:
@"Caactorvike" said: The draft so far feels to me like Kwesi is running for mayor of the NFC North. “Oh, please after you, Detroit. No, no after you Green Bay.” The picks so far feel like they are making the best of a bad situation. If you drop 20 spots, well, Cine is a good save. If you drop another 20 spots it seems like Booth kinda, sorta makes up for it. But man, what did we pass on to end up where we did? In some way I can’t really explain, I feel like this draft was more about KAM than the players drafted. 
Perfectly stated
You do understand they had to trade assets to us as well, right? Lol
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Also there were other teams willing to trade with Detroit and Green Bay so they would have benefited anyway. We could have been left on the outside. Would that be better? 

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@"Vikergirl" said: Also there were other teams willing to trade with Detroit and Green Bay so they would have benefited anyway. We could have been left on the outside. Would that be better? 
Probably
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@"Vikergirl" said: Also there were other teams willing to trade with Detroit and Green Bay so they would have benefited anyway. We could have been left on the outside. Would that be better? 
Yes.
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@"Vikergirl" said: Also there were other teams willing to trade with Detroit and Green Bay so they would have benefited anyway. We could have been left on the outside. Would that be better? 
That justification from Kwesi rang hollow to me...  even if we didn't consider Hamilton, Jermaine Johnson, Williams, or Davis blue chip guys we gave up too much.  It was a fair trade, but you don't do fair trades with a 20 pick drop, especially with a division rival.

I'd have preferred to stay at 12 to draft Hamilton if we were taking a safety with our first pick.  He's better in coverage than Cine, but Cine is a better enforcer/tackler.

I liked the Cine/Booth picks where we got them but I'm less than impressed with Ingram and Asamoah...  seemed early for a guy with incest rape allegations in his past (undraftable to me) and the other guy is small but fast and a good blitzer.  

This draft is C+ material (at best) in my eyes so far.

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I guess to some it is better not to have the extra second or fourth then. It would take even longer for the team to make progress. Cool. 

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@"Vanguard83" said: The answer is......the Bears and Vikings....

“Who are the teams that Kwesi DIDNT help in the 2022 draft”


Don't fret, we still have 4 rounds left for us to offer some help to the Bears as well.

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@"Vikergirl" said: I guess to some it is better not to have the extra second or fourth then. It would take even longer for the team to make progress. Cool. 
How would it take longer?  Our extra 2nd was used on a dude who has sexual assault allegations in his past.

Seeing how things fell, we could have done Hamilton at 12 and taken Booth at 46 instead of 42.  Then we had our own 3rd we could have traded back with if we wanted a 4th.

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@"Wetlander" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: I guess to some it is better not to have the extra second or fourth then. It would take even longer for the team to make progress. Cool. 
How would it take longer?  Our extra 2nd was used on a dude who has sexual assault allegations in his past.

Seeing how things fell, we could have done Hamilton at 12 and taken Booth at 46 instead of 42.  Then we had our own 3rd we could have traded back with if we wanted a 4th.



I am in agreement on the dude with the sexual assault allegations. I was more speaking to trading down to get more picks earlier instead of stockpiling the 7th rounders. 

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