It's a Cine
Some compilation comments:
PFF:
26th rated player - Hamilton 8th.
6'2 - 199
Cine was the biggest riser down the stretch for the Georgia defense, and he's one heck of a tackler - for his career, he missed only 11 tackles on 159 attempts.
CBS:
Draft Scouting Report:
Rating: 87.64 (Long-term starter)
Pro Comparison: Juan Thornhill
Strengths:
Ran a 4.38 40 with a 36.5 vertical at the combine, and that athleticism translated to the field for the Bulldogs. Good closing speed while staying under control, and while he's not a thumper he comes downhill with purpose vs. the run. Can cover like cornerback vs. shifty slot WRs and blankets bigger tight ends. Tackling machine in open field and he'll run through the intended target, usually as the ball is arriving.
Weaknesses:
Can get locked into his responsibilities to the point of having blinders on and can miss what's going on around him. Can be a half-step slow to diagnose the play and that leaves him at least a half-step out of position.
Bleacher:
- Lewis Cine, S, Georgia
Strengths: Fearless tackler, quick reaction in coverage, good understanding of schemes, covers a lot of ground
Weaknesses: Play a little high through contact, thin frame, more of a straight-line athlete
On a defense loaded with future NFL talent, safety Lewis Cine led the national champion Georgia Bulldogs with 73 total tackles and nine defended passes.
Georgia's defense featured the Butkus Award winner, the Outland Trophy winner and another defensive lineman selected with the first overall pick. However, Cine served as the unit's eraser by playing the alleys and the run as well as any other defender in college football.
The first-team All-SEC safety takes excellent angles and arrives at the ball-carrier while going roughly 100 mph, though he can be a little reckless in his tackling form. That speed estimation is only a slight exaggeration, as the 6'2", 199-pound defender ran a 4.37-second 40-yard dash at the combine.
The Minnesota Vikings traded all the way back to the 32nd overall pick after starting the evening with the 12th selection. In doing so, Minnesota was still able to land the most intimidating safety in the class.
As talented as Notre Dame’s Kyle Hamilton is, he’s not the same type of hitter Cine is. Nor does this year’s highest-drafted safety possess as much speed.
Initially, Cine can join Harrison Smith, learn from the veteran and form the league’s most physical safety duo. The incoming defensive back will eventually replace Smith, who turned 33 in February. The Vikings can save $15.3 million by releasing the veteran with a June 1 designation next year, per Over The Cap.
USA Today:
That extends the UGA record for picks in the first round to five.Cine was the unquestioned leader of the Bulldogs secondary that squashed opponents as one of the best defensive units in the country.
In 2021, the Texas native racked up a team-leading 73 stops, team-high nine pass breakups and won the Defensive MVP honor in the national title game.
NFL.com
The draft network:
- Lewis Cine is a 3rd year Junior who has aligned as the single-high middle-field defender and has also aligned in split-safety looks. Lewis is a good athlete with good straight-line speed, agility, and range of motion. In the passing game, his versatility is his strongest attribute. He has moments of dropping down in the slot and playing in the overhang. He could afford to make more plays in the passing game and has left plays on the field, in this regard. In the run game, he is a violent, physical hitter. He comes downhill with authority and demonstrates physical toughness as a run defender. He aggressively runs the alley and shows up with physicality. He has been hit with targeting penalties in the past but has been better in this aspect in 2021. On passing downs, he may be best-suited playing as a linebacker in sub-packages where he can use his athleticism to blitz and affect the passer.
Ideal Role: Safety and core special teamer
This is an interesting pick from the Vikings for a number of reasons. Clearly, they wanted a safety, and they had the opportunity to take the consensus top safety at 12 in Hamilton. Instead, they moved down 20 picks and landed Cine, with Hamilton going to the Ravens at 14.
Cine's stats at Georgia don't jump off the table: 2 INTs, 3.5 TFLs, and 14 passes defended in three seasons. But he had his best season for Georgia's championship team last year and has the physical tools and skillset to continue improving at the NFL level.
Here's the scouting report on Cine
A two-year starter at Georgia, Cine played free safety in former defensive coordinator Dan Lanning’s scheme, also seeing time at strong safety and the “money” position. He was born in Haiti, grew up in Florida, learned to play football in Boston, became a top recruit in Texas and earned All-American status at Georgia – a diverse journey that concluded with him earning Defensive MVP honors in the 2021 national championship game. With his range, explosiveness and appetite for contact, Cine is a do-everything safety and led a talent-rich Georgia defense in both tackles and passes defended in 2021. Although he has room to tidy up his tackling technique, he is at his best as a physical run defender, running the alley like a freight train and tuning up his target. Overall, Cine lacks ideal size by NFL standards and has marginal ball skills, but he is an enforcer vs. the run with the athleticism in coverage to make plays. He is an ascending talent with NFL starting skills, similar to Xavier McKinney as a prospect.
I still can't forget the clock running out on us.
"Calm down, calm down we got our guy (Kevin Williams)".
Yeah but you looked stupid in the process of picking him.
I just can't believe you can go from dead last 32 to 12 for not a 1st nor even a 2nd, but a 3rd + a pick swap in 2nd.
And to a division rival?? The gamble of actually giving the cellar dwellers some legit firepower rather than cock-blocking them and keeping their offense shitty, all to just get a 3rd rounder is moronic. Risk management must not have been part of the Walll St experience.
@"SFVikeFan" said: I still can't forget the clock running out on us."Calm down, calm down we got our guy (Kevin Williams)".
Yeah but you looked stupid in the process of picking him.
I just can't believe you can go from dead last 32 to 12 for not a 1st nor even a 2nd, but a 3rd + a pick swap in 2nd.
And to a division rival?? The gamble of actually giving the cellar dwellers some legit firepower rather than cock-blocking them and keeping their offense shitty, all to just get a 3rd rounder is moronic. Risk management must not have been part of the Walll St experience.
100% agree. If anything, wouldn't it make even more sense for that price tag to be even higher for a division rival to jump up 20 spots into your pick where there was still some elite talent left on the board!? You have to think about stuff like that when pulling the trigger and who you could potentially be allowing your rivals to draft, because you are going to be playing against that player for the next 5 years at minimum. Kwesi allowed a division rival to take quite possibly the biggest playmaker in this draft on the heels of taking the best defensive player in this draft. It's still just mind boggling...
Also, I feel very confident if Rick was still running the show he would have taken Kyle Hamilton with the pick when he dropped.
@"SFVikeFan" said: I still can't forget the clock running out on us."Calm down, calm down we got our guy (Kevin Williams)".
Yeah but you looked stupid in the process of picking him.
I just can't believe you can go from dead last 32 to 12 for not a 1st nor even a 2nd, but a 3rd + a pick swap in 2nd.
And to a division rival?? The gamble of actually giving the cellar dwellers some legit firepower rather than cock-blocking them and keeping their offense shitty, all to just get a 3rd rounder is moronic. Risk management must not have been part of the Walll St experience.
The picks themselves suck to look at, but look at it this way. Say at 12 they didn't like Hamilton and didn't want to draft a receiver in the 1st round. The class is deep at positions we need so you trade back, perhaps having Cine as your #1 safety (Assuming Hill wasn't higher) and then you up your spot from 46 to 34 because you know you will want a CB, DE, or put yourself in a position to package more picks this draft all while still having 66 and 77 today.
Chess isn't over when someone says "Check" so let's let the game unravel tonight and see how we look after that. Last night didn't seem like the best outcome, but we don't know how tonight unfolds. We very well could end up with a good CB, WR, OL/DL tonight and I would be thrilled with that.
New Vikings S Lewis Cine did not allow a TD as the primary defender in pass coverage last season on 500 total pass coverage snaps.
— Field Yates (@FieldYates) April 29, 2022
That was the most coverage snaps by any FBS defender without allowing a TD all year.
Disappointed in the trade, yes, disappointed in the pick, no. I like the kid, he seems to be a smart player and in today's NFL that is as or more important than his physical skills. Look forward to seeing and hearing more from him.
@"pattersaur" said:. More infuriating was KAM said in his presser the offer was “too good to pass up”. No, it really wasn’t.Hopefully tonight goes better but I keep coming back to the fact that, RS could have done this.
Rick never, and I mean NEVER, got taken like this in a trade. He'd have at least kept 46 or gotten the '23 1st.
@"JimmyinSD" said: Disappointed in the trade, yes, disappointed in the pick, no. I like the kid, he seems to be a smart player and in today's NFL that is as or more important than his physical skills. Look forward to seeing and hearing more from him.
I think the trade overshadows him as a player and the talk will be what we gave up instead of what Cine can bring to the table. I also just don't consider safety to be a high impact position anymore. How many elite safetys are there in the league currently? The Harrison Smith's of world are few and far between and most teams just have dudes back there who do their jobs unspectacularly without a ton of game altering type plays. I've always said I'd never take a safety in the first round unless it was a Sean Taylor type talent and I think Hamilton (while a notch below) was still that type of player. I know the Vikings liked Cine and thought he would be a second round target of there's, but not in the first...albeit the last pick. There's just nothing I liked about the trade down.
@"supafreak84" said:@"SFVikeFan" said: I still can't forget the clock running out on us."Calm down, calm down we got our guy (Kevin Williams)".
Yeah but you looked stupid in the process of picking him.
I just can't believe you can go from dead last 32 to 12 for not a 1st nor even a 2nd, but a 3rd + a pick swap in 2nd.
And to a division rival?? The gamble of actually giving the cellar dwellers some legit firepower rather than cock-blocking them and keeping their offense shitty, all to just get a 3rd rounder is moronic. Risk management must not have been part of the Walll St experience.
100% agree. If anything, wouldn't it make even more sense for that price tag to be even higher for a division rival to jump up 20 spots into your pick where there was still some elite talent left on the board!? You have to think about stuff like that when pulling the trigger and who you could potentially be allowing your rivals to draft, because you are going to be playing against that player for the next 5 years at minimum. Kwesi allowed a division rival to take quite possibly the biggest playmaker in this draft on the heels of taking the best defensive player in this draft. It's still just mind boggling...Also, I feel very confident if Rick was still running the show he would have taken Kyle Hamilton with the pick when he dropped.
And they have two #1's next year. We gave the lions a MASSIVE leg up.
@"JimmyinSD" said: Disappointed in the trade, yes, disappointed in the pick, no. I like the kid, he seems to be a smart player and in today's NFL that is as or more important than his physical skills. Look forward to seeing and hearing more from him.Well ther is no reason to hate on the kid for sure. He didn't do nothing wrong and he seems like he is a baller so as to the player, welcome to the club. As for the GM..... Dude. Try to not look like. a wet behind the ears noob. But go fix this blunder by nailing the rest of the draft.
@"MaroonBells" said:@"prairieghost" said: All the hand wringing and teeth gnashing aside, has everyone checked out some of Cine’s interviews? This is a well-spoken, confident, intelligent player we picked. He is also a mature young man. I can honesty say that though the trade compensation isn’t what we all feel it should have been, I am certainly excited about the pick itself after familiarizing myself with Cine. Now, let’s go get our CB. Hits like a truck too.
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