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1. Detroit Lions [PROJECTED TRADE with Jacksonville Jaguars] – DE Aidan Hutchinson, Michigan: The apparent lack of elite quarterback prospects makes this year's No. 1 overall pick less appealing than in most years. Yet the Jags might find a prospective buyer in Detroit, which currently sits in the No. 2 spot. Even if Hutchinson is the best player available, there's not much of a delta between him and the next guy. However the Plymouth, Michigan, native and University of Michigan blueblood could have unique value to a Lions organization that lacks a face of the franchise. Engaging off the field, relentless between the lines and highly productive, the Heisman Trophy finalist set a Wolverines record with 14 sacks in 2021. The 6-7, 260-pounder would be the perfect addition to a 29th-ranked defense that recently let go of oft-injured DE Trey Flowers. Detroit could feasibly flip positions with Jacksonville by also giving up its two third-round picks.
2. Jaguars – DE Travon Walker, Georgia:
3. Houston Texans – OT Ikem ‘Ickey’ Ekwonu, North Carolina State: Good luck finding an offensive line prospect this year with more upside.
4. New York Jets – CB Ahmad ‘Sauce’ Gardner, Cincinnati: A franchise that's been looking for Darrelle Revis' successor for the past half-decade would benefit greatly from the 6-3, 190-pounder Gardner, who never surrendered a TD pass for the Bearcats.
5. Pittsburgh Steelers – QB Malik Willis, Liberty:
6. Carolina Panthers – QB Kenny Pickett, Pittsburgh:
7. Giants (from Chicago Bears) – DE Kayvon Thibodeaux, Oregon:
8. Atlanta Falcons – WR Garrett Wilson, Ohio State:
9. New Orleans Saints – OT Evan Neal, Alabama:
10. Jets (from Seahawks) – WR Jameson Williams, Alabama:
11. Washington Commanders – S Kyle Hamilton, Notre Dame: He's 6-4 and 220 pounds with sub-4.6 speed and can shore up deficiencies at the second and/or third levels. Hamilton can provide coverage, a box presence, blitzing ability and an intimidation factor – a varied skill set recently released S Landon Collins just couldn't provide in D.C.
12. Minnesota Vikings – CB Derek Stingley Jr., LSU: His talents as a cover man are undeniable and were apparent for the 2019 national champions, for whom he had six interceptions, earning All-American honors for his efforts. But Lisfranc surgery limited him to three games in 2021 – a year after he was slowed by ankle issues. However a promising showing at LSU's pro day should cement Stingley into the top half of the first round. And what better way to break into the NFL than under the watchful eye of Bayou Bengals great Patrick Peterson, who's back in the Twin Cities for another year?
13. Texans (from Cleveland Browns) – OLB/DE Jermaine Johnson II, Florida State: This is where Houston officially begins its post-Deshaun Watson recovery, though it's apparent Mills is the man under center for the foreseeable future. But the Texans also need to regenerate their pass rush after years of relying on J.J. Watt and Whitney Mercilus. Johnson (6-5, 262) could form a nice bookend opposite Jonathan Greenard. A Georgia transfer who dazzled at the combine with a sub-4.6 40 time, Johnson comes off a productive senior season that included 11½ sacks and 17½ TFLs.
14. Baltimore Ravens – CB Trent McDuffie, Washington: The latest in a long line of quality Huskies corners, he has 4.4 speed, elite cover skills, smarts and the versatility to play in just about any scheme. The Ravens have historically stockpiled first-rate DBs yet have developed a need with Tavon Young moving to Chicago and Marcus Peters, who's got a year left on his contract, trying to rebound from a torn ACL.
15. Philadelphia Eagles (from Miami Dolphins) – WR Drake London, USC:
16. Seahawks – DT Jordan Davis, Georgia:
17. Los Angeles Chargers – OT Charles Cross, Mississippi State:
18. Eagles (from Saints) – DT Devonte Wyatt, Georgia:
19. Saints (from Eagles) – WR Chris Olave, Ohio State:
20. Giants – LB Devin Lloyd, Utah:
21. Kansas City Chiefs [PROJECTED TRADE with New England Patriots] – WR Jahan Dotson, Penn State:
22. Green Bay Packers (from Las Vegas Raiders) – WR Christian Watson, North Dakota State: They haven’t drafted a receiver in Round 1 since Javon Walker in 2002. But this should be the year they’ll need to strongly consider it, most especially with the pick acquired in the show-stopping deal for All-Pro Davante Adams, who had 110 catches in three of the past four seasons. Watson won't replace Adams – who would? – but a 6-5, 208-pound target with 4.36 speed would be a dangerous option for QB Aaron Rodgers.
23. Arizona Cardinals – OT Trevor Penning, Northern Iowa:
24. Dallas Cowboys – OL Kenyon Green, Texas A&M:
25. Buffalo Bills – RB Breece Hall, Iowa State:
26. Tennessee Titans – OL Zion Johnson, Boston College:
27. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – DB Daxton Hill, Michigan:
28. Packers – WR Skyy Moore, Western Michigan: We're doubling down on receivers for a franchise that hasn't taken one in Round 1 in two decades.
29. Patriots – LB Nakobe Dean, Georgia:
30. Chiefs – DE Boye Mafe, Minnesota:
31. Cincinnati Bengals – CB Andrew Booth Jr., Clemson:
32. Seahawks – QB Desmond Ridder, Cincinnati:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/nate-davis/2022/04/14/nfl-mock-draft-2022-first-round-trades-quarterbacks/9523389002/
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
Seems 9 outta 10 mocks recently have us taking Stingley. I can see it. Enough questions to drop him and enough LSU connections to stop him from sliding further. Be pretty surprising though to see DSJ, JJ and McDuffie all there for us at 12. And even though I really like Skyy, my biggest fear is the Packers drafting Pickens, which I saw in the PFF mock earlier.
A little birdie told me if Ridder goes out of Round 1, Minnesota could be very interested. Take with a grain.
@"StickyBun" said: A little birdie told me if Ridder goes out of Round 1, Minnesota could be very interested. Take with a grain.If we took Ridder first round I would chain myself to the Vikings practice facility. I'd rather trade Dalvin and take Breece Hall at 12.
Just don't see it with Ridder.
@"Hawkvike25" said:@"StickyBun" said: A little birdie told me if Ridder goes out of Round 1, Minnesota could be very interested. Take with a grain. If we took Ridder first round I would chain myself to the Vikings practice facility. I'd rather trade Dalvin and take Breece Hall at 12.Just don't see it with Ridder.
Yeah, agreed. My point was if he gets OUT of Round 1. Which is probably at least pretty decent odds.
@"StickyBun" said:@"Hawkvike25" said:@"StickyBun" said: A little birdie told me if Ridder goes out of Round 1, Minnesota could be very interested. Take with a grain. If we took Ridder first round I would chain myself to the Vikings practice facility. I'd rather trade Dalvin and take Breece Hall at 12.Just don't see it with Ridder.
Yeah, agreed. My point was if he gets OUT of Round 1. Which is probably at least pretty decent odds.
Ah I read that wrong. I saw Ridder and Round 1 and immediately went wtf mode. Even in round 2 I dont want him.
And another one
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/04/19/mock-draft-jaguars-neal-saints-corral-falcons-willis
12. Minnesota Vikings: Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame
Some
franchises luck into years of stellar QB play. Some franchises luck
into generational Notre Dame safety prospects. While I could see a real
analytically minded argument against taking Hamilton here, especially
for the well-versed Kwesi Adofo-Mensah, I would point to the Bills and
their incredible safety tandem as an indication of how a team can
manipulate opposing offenses without necessarily having traditional
shutdown corners. Hamilton is one of the best players in this draft …
period.
Gotta say I'm on the Hamilton bandwagon. Lots of mocks have him making it to us. Lets get him and Harry acquainted.
@"AGRforever" said:And another one https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/04/19/mock-draft-jaguars-neal-saints-corral-falcons-willis 12. Minnesota Vikings: Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame Some franchises luck into years of stellar QB play. Some franchises luck into generational Notre Dame safety prospects. While I could see a real analytically minded argument against taking Hamilton here, especially for the well-versed Kwesi Adofo-Mensah, I would point to the Bills and their incredible safety tandem as an indication of how a team can manipulate opposing offenses without necessarily having traditional shutdown corners. Hamilton is one of the best players in this draft … period.
@"AGRforever" said:
Gotta say I'm on the Hamilton bandwagon. Lots of mocks have him making it to us. Lets get him and Harry acquainted.
Yea, I'm climbing onboard as well but slowly. 12 is high for picks like Guard, Safety but from all reports Hamilton is a Top 5 talent. Hamilton would immediately be one of the biggest Safety's at 6'4 - 225 - built more like an OLB. Harry is 6'2 -215 ish? I hope he isn't a tweener but I don't see anyone indicating that and I certainly don't consider myself a college football draft prospect expert.
We can go chicken vs the egg routine on improving our piss poor defense the last few years. Does a 3-4 switch add a ton more pressure from the front 7 to make up for Corner play? Can it create a ton more pressure around the edges that allow our Safety's to move around like chess pieces and also make the Corners better? I have no idea but I think our new regime does :)
Bottom line for me is that if Hamilton is available and we take him then I am all for it. If Hamilton is available and we are able to parlay it into multiple picks and still get our guy then I am all for that. The draft is an area of the GM/staff that I have to trust and support of course. I think Spelly was a Top 10 (prob higher) draft GM and I was thrilled that he was able to get the guy I wanted at 14 last year - Darrisaw - move down and pick up 2 more picks. If Kwesi does a similar move this year then I am all for it. We won't be able to judge the results for a minimum of a year. Like I supported the Darrisaw pick and I think it looks very good now but so did it when we picked Kalil where everyone expected but he is now considered a mistake but that was not the case until 3 years in.
@"minny65" said:@"AGRforever" said:And another one https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/04/19/mock-draft-jaguars-neal-saints-corral-falcons-willis 12. Minnesota Vikings: Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame Some franchises luck into years of stellar QB play. Some franchises luck into generational Notre Dame safety prospects. While I could see a real analytically minded argument against taking Hamilton here, especially for the well-versed Kwesi Adofo-Mensah, I would point to the Bills and their incredible safety tandem as an indication of how a team can manipulate opposing offenses without necessarily having traditional shutdown corners. Hamilton is one of the best players in this draft … period.
@"AGRforever" said:
Gotta say I'm on the Hamilton bandwagon. Lots of mocks have him making it to us. Lets get him and Harry acquainted.
Yea, I'm climbing onboard as well but slowly. 12 is high for picks like Guard, Safety but from all reports Hamilton is a Top 5 talent. Hamilton would immediately be one of the biggest Safety's at 6'4 - 225 - built more like an OLB. Harry is 6'2 -215 ish? I hope he isn't a tweener but I don't see anyone indicating that and I certainly don't consider myself a college football draft prospect expert.We can go chicken vs the egg routine on improving our piss poor defense the last few years. Does a 3-4 switch add a ton more pressure from the front 7 to make up for Corner play? Can it create a ton more pressure around the edges that allow our Safety's to move around like chess pieces and also make the Corners better? I have no idea but I think our new regime does :)
Bottom line for me is that if Hamilton is available and we take him then I am all for it. If Hamilton is available and we are able to parlay it into multiple picks and still get our guy then I am all for that. The draft is an area of the GM/staff that I have to trust and support of course. I think Spelly was a Top 10 (prob higher) draft GM and I was thrilled that he was able to get the guy I wanted at 14 last year - Darrisaw - move down and pick up 2 more picks. If Kwesi does a similar move this year then I am all for it. We won't be able to judge the results for a minimum of a year. Like I supported the Darrisaw pick and I think it looks very good now but so did it when we picked Kalil where everyone expected but he is now considered a mistake but that was not the case until 3 years in.
Great players make teams great. If he is as great as he sounds then I see no reason why we should pass on him regardless of position. Why take a question mark when we can take what sounds like on of the best coming out of college at his position in a long long time.
We've all been spoiled seeing elite play out of Harrison Smith for what 9 years? He's getting long in the tooth. Imagine passing his knowledge base off to the kid and getting another decade plus of elite play?
Someone needs to school me in the ins an outs of why the safety position is being undervalued in a passing league. Seems to me getting enforcers back there who are also ball hawks, who also can run with the deep routes, are generals of the d-backfield, and are deadly blitzing should be prized possessions in any scheme.
@"mgobluevikes" said: Someone needs to school me in the ins an outs of why the safety position is being undervalued in a passing league. Seems to me getting enforcers back there who are also ball hawks, who also can run with the deep routes, are generals of the d-backfield, and are deadly blitzing should be prized possessions in any scheme.Geoff has posted about certain $$ thresholds being “acceptable” levels for teams to spend on certain positions. For some reason saftey goes down the list a bit and since we have Harry its hard to justify more capital.
I dont know anything extra special beyond being a fan. To me great players should be the focus and by valuing positions above others (save QB) gets away from BPA.
As mentioned many times Harry is long in the tooth. If I'm being honest, I thought he absolutely fell off the cliff last year. Not sure he's anywhere close to the player he was 3 years ago. Are we really any better at the back end than we are at corner?
It would be a bit perplexing to take a pass on the clear #1 safety vs. the #2-4 CB especially if we're moving away from a tight man coverage scheme.
Hamilton is a tall, lanky hard nosed safety that will help ANY team that drafts him.
Camryn Bynum and Hamilton could carry the Vikings for a LONG time at safety if they were to draft him. Vikings might have some great options at #12 worth staying there for.
@"mgobluevikes" said: As mentioned many times Harry is long in the tooth. If I'm being honest, I thought he absolutely fell off the cliff last year. Not sure he's anywhere close to the player he was 3 years ago. Are we really any better at the back end than we are at corner?It would be a bit perplexing to take a pass on the clear #1 safety vs. the #2-4 CB especially if we're moving away from a tight man coverage scheme.
I dont see that, I saw his performance decline, but I also saw him trying to do to much and as a result he got himself out of position. Imo that was more a product of Zimmer asking his fixer to fix to many things on amy given play. You can have your safety play at the LOS and then bail if you have corners that can actually cover for a 2 count, or not bite on every double move, or have a front 7 that can get pressure, we had neither and its the safeties that get left looking like shit. Hopefully the front 7 can take care of the LOS and Harry wont be asked to play a deep 1/2 with little support, when starting from the LOS and having run obligations prior to bailing.
I have done a bunch of mocks and it is hard to nab a good safety. I would be pretty excited to have Hamilton fall to 12.
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