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Twyman an option for D-Line rotation?

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Between Phillips, Tomlinson, Watts, Lynch, Twyman and maybe a draft pick....might not be a bad D-Line rotation. Not sure what to think of the new guy we signed, especially coming off an ACL. 

https://thevikingage.com/2022/04/09/vikings-defensive-tackle-jaylen-twyman-multiple-gunshot-wounds/

When it comes to depth, there might not be a position more loaded for the Vikings than defensive tackle. They have Dalvin Tomlinson returning from being a starter last season but also have high-potential backups from last year in Armon Watts and James Lynch.Minnesota was also busy signing players this offseason and have inked deals with two defensive tackles this offseason, signing former Bills standout Harrison Phillips and former 49ers defender Jullian Taylor.

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@"PurpleCrush" said: Between Phillips, Tomlinson, Watts, Lynch, Twyman and maybe a draft pick....might not be a bad D-Line rotation. Not sure what to think of the new guy we signed, especially coming off an ACL. 

https://thevikingage.com/2022/04/09/vikings-defensive-tackle-jaylen-twyman-multiple-gunshot-wounds/

When it comes to depth, there might not be a position more loaded for the Vikings than defensive tackle. They have Dalvin Tomlinson returning from being a starter last season but also have high-potential backups from last year in Armon Watts and James Lynch.Minnesota was also busy signing players this offseason and have inked deals with two defensive tackles this offseason, signing former Bills standout Harrison Phillips and former 49ers defender Jullian Taylor.


I dont keep up with all the 5T, 5i stuff but  i see alot of strength in our front 3.  I think Janarius Robinson is also in that mix although we dont really  know much about him or twyman yet. I dont see much need in the draft unless a really great value comes up 

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@"PurpleCrush" said: Between Phillips, Tomlinson, Watts, Lynch, Twyman and maybe a draft pick....might not be a bad D-Line rotation. Not sure what to think of the new guy we signed, especially coming off an ACL. 

https://thevikingage.com/2022/04/09/vikings-defensive-tackle-jaylen-twyman-multiple-gunshot-wounds/

When it comes to depth, there might not be a position more loaded for the Vikings than defensive tackle. They have Dalvin Tomlinson returning from being a starter last season but also have high-potential backups from last year in Armon Watts and James Lynch.Minnesota was also busy signing players this offseason and have inked deals with two defensive tackles this offseason, signing former Bills standout Harrison Phillips and former 49ers defender Jullian Taylor.


Well they have a lot of bodies but do they have any players? I guess we will find out what the new coaches/GM think on draft day.

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@"PurpleCrush" said: Between Phillips, Tomlinson, Watts, Lynch, Twyman and maybe a draft pick....might not be a bad D-Line rotation. Not sure what to think of the new guy we signed, especially coming off an ACL. 

https://thevikingage.com/2022/04/09/vikings-defensive-tackle-jaylen-twyman-multiple-gunshot-wounds/

When it comes to depth, there might not be a position more loaded for the Vikings than defensive tackle. They have Dalvin Tomlinson returning from being a starter last season but also have high-potential backups from last year in Armon Watts and James Lynch.Minnesota was also busy signing players this offseason and have inked deals with two defensive tackles this offseason, signing former Bills standout Harrison Phillips and former 49ers defender Jullian Taylor.


Maybe this is a little confirmation bias on my part, but it sure seems like the the Vikings are setting themselves up to draft a corner in the 1st. 

I know some think the P2 signing allows us to draft any position, but I couldn't disagree more. I don't think this team wants to go into the season counting on a 32-year-old corner who's been in moderate decline for the last three seasons. 

In some ways the P2 signing actually argues for the corner...while P2 is still here to mentor him. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"PurpleCrush" said: Between Phillips, Tomlinson, Watts, Lynch, Twyman and maybe a draft pick....might not be a bad D-Line rotation. Not sure what to think of the new guy we signed, especially coming off an ACL. 

https://thevikingage.com/2022/04/09/vikings-defensive-tackle-jaylen-twyman-multiple-gunshot-wounds/

When it comes to depth, there might not be a position more loaded for the Vikings than defensive tackle. They have Dalvin Tomlinson returning from being a starter last season but also have high-potential backups from last year in Armon Watts and James Lynch.Minnesota was also busy signing players this offseason and have inked deals with two defensive tackles this offseason, signing former Bills standout Harrison Phillips and former 49ers defender Jullian Taylor.


Maybe this is a little confirmation bias on my part, but it sure seems like the the Vikings are setting themselves up to draft a corner in the 1st. 

I know some think the P2 signing allows us to draft any position, but I couldn't disagree more. I don't think this team wants to go into the season counting on a 32-year-old corner who's been in moderate decline for the last three seasons. 

In some ways the P2 signing actually argues for the corner...while P2 is still here to mentor him. 



I'll be shocked if it isn't a corner in round 1. 

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from a talent needs perspective its corner hands down

from a future cap needs its Edge hands down

I really like the back end of this first round. Devin Lloyd or Kenyon Green and additinal draft capital would be a fine consolation prize if Sauce, Stingley and Willis are off the board. 

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"PurpleCrush" said: Between Phillips, Tomlinson, Watts, Lynch, Twyman and maybe a draft pick....might not be a bad D-Line rotation. Not sure what to think of the new guy we signed, especially coming off an ACL. 

https://thevikingage.com/2022/04/09/vikings-defensive-tackle-jaylen-twyman-multiple-gunshot-wounds/

When it comes to depth, there might not be a position more loaded for the Vikings than defensive tackle. They have Dalvin Tomlinson returning from being a starter last season but also have high-potential backups from last year in Armon Watts and James Lynch.Minnesota was also busy signing players this offseason and have inked deals with two defensive tackles this offseason, signing former Bills standout Harrison Phillips and former 49ers defender Jullian Taylor.


Maybe this is a little confirmation bias on my part, but it sure seems like the the Vikings are setting themselves up to draft a corner in the 1st. 

I know some think the P2 signing allows us to draft any position, but I couldn't disagree more. I don't think this team wants to go into the season counting on a 32-year-old corner who's been in moderate decline for the last three seasons. 

In some ways the P2 signing actually argues for the corner...while P2 is still here to mentor him. 



I'll be shocked if it isn't a corner in round 1. 

I won't be happy if its not Sauce or Stingley with the 12th.  If we trade back and take a different CB that's fine.

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@"Bullazin" said: from a talent needs perspective its corner hands down

from a future cap needs its Edge hands down

I really like the back end of this first round. Devin Lloyd or Kenyon Green and additinal draft capital would be a fine consolation prize if Sauce, Stingley and Willis are off the board. 

If KC falls in love with a WR like Wilson or Williams, I wonder if they'd send us 29 and 30 for 12. Kelce is getting older and Tyreek is gone. I could see them getting anxious and wanting to move up to grab their guy. Probably won't happen but the draft pick value chart is about even. It'd be a lonnnng and anxious wait until 29 on draft night but getting two firsts would be pretty sweet.

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@"pattersaur" said:
@"Bullazin" said: from a talent needs perspective its corner hands down

from a future cap needs its Edge hands down

I really like the back end of this first round. Devin Lloyd or Kenyon Green and additinal draft capital would be a fine consolation prize if Sauce, Stingley and Willis are off the board. 

If KC falls in love with a WR like Wilson or Williams, I wonder if they'd send us 29 and 30 for 12. Kelce is getting older and Tyreek is gone. I could see them getting anxious and wanting to move up to grab their guy. Probably won't happen but the draft pick value chart is about even. It'd be a lonnnng and anxious wait until 29 on draft night but getting two firsts would be pretty sweet.


I would have to think that 12 is a prime pick and worth more than 29 and 30. At 12 you still get a blue chip prospect, especially if a QB or two go off the board. 

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@"pattersaur" said:
@"Bullazin" said: from a talent needs perspective its corner hands down

from a future cap needs its Edge hands down

I really like the back end of this first round. Devin Lloyd or Kenyon Green and additinal draft capital would be a fine consolation prize if Sauce, Stingley and Willis are off the board. 

If KC falls in love with a WR like Wilson or Williams, I wonder if they'd send us 29 and 30 for 12. Kelce is getting older and Tyreek is gone. I could see them getting anxious and wanting to move up to grab their guy. Probably won't happen but the draft pick value chart is about even. It'd be a lonnnng and anxious wait until 29 on draft night but getting two firsts would be pretty sweet.


I would love it. KC may be planning to let Mahomes deal with mediocre WR’s.  

There are so many hyped failures in the first half of the first, a tier 2 CB and a value position like S or OG or Edge in the late first should be readily available  

There should be a QB hungry team as well. im expecting only Willis to be off the board but if Howell is still in play that could work to our advantage as well. 

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@"kmillard" said:
@"PurpleCrush" said: Between Phillips, Tomlinson, Watts, Lynch, Twyman and maybe a draft pick....might not be a bad D-Line rotation. Not sure what to think of the new guy we signed, especially coming off an ACL. 

https://thevikingage.com/2022/04/09/vikings-defensive-tackle-jaylen-twyman-multiple-gunshot-wounds/

When it comes to depth, there might not be a position more loaded for the Vikings than defensive tackle. They have Dalvin Tomlinson returning from being a starter last season but also have high-potential backups from last year in Armon Watts and James Lynch.Minnesota was also busy signing players this offseason and have inked deals with two defensive tackles this offseason, signing former Bills standout Harrison Phillips and former 49ers defender Jullian Taylor.


Well they have a lot of bodies but do they have any players? I guess we will find out what the new coaches/GM think on draft day.


That is what I keep coming back to when fans are fine not taking an edge rusher or DL because we have all this young depth behind them...  how do we know these guys are any good and/or fits for a 3-4?

Wonnum and Watts are the only ones who have played meaningful snaps...  Twyman, Lynch, Patrick Jones, Robinson, etc are all unknowns at this point AND were all drafted for a different scheme.  Maybe some of these guys stick around, maybe not.  All I know is the roster typically turns over quite a bit when a new HC is hired and you have new FO people.

The best thing about this draft is that it appears to be deep at CB, WR, and edge rusher...  And there are some good DL as well.  All positions the Vikings could use an infusion of youth and talent at...  instead of arguing about what position (or player) our first pick should be, we should be happy that there is a good chance we can address most of these positions with a talented prospect in the first couple rounds.

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@"Wetlander" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"PurpleCrush" said: Between Phillips, Tomlinson, Watts, Lynch, Twyman and maybe a draft pick....might not be a bad D-Line rotation. Not sure what to think of the new guy we signed, especially coming off an ACL. 

https://thevikingage.com/2022/04/09/vikings-defensive-tackle-jaylen-twyman-multiple-gunshot-wounds/

When it comes to depth, there might not be a position more loaded for the Vikings than defensive tackle. They have Dalvin Tomlinson returning from being a starter last season but also have high-potential backups from last year in Armon Watts and James Lynch.Minnesota was also busy signing players this offseason and have inked deals with two defensive tackles this offseason, signing former Bills standout Harrison Phillips and former 49ers defender Jullian Taylor.


Well they have a lot of bodies but do they have any players? I guess we will find out what the new coaches/GM think on draft day.


That is what I keep coming back to when fans are fine not taking an edge rusher or DL because we have all this young depth behind them...  how do we know these guys are any good and/or fits for a 3-4?

Wonnum and Watts are the only ones who have played meaningful snaps...  Twyman, Lynch, Patrick Jones, Robinson, etc are all unknowns at this point AND were all drafted for a different scheme.  Maybe some of these guys stick around, maybe not.  All I know is the roster typically turns over quite a bit when a new HC is hired and you have new FO people.

The best thing about this draft is that it appears to be deep at CB, WR, and edge rusher...  And there are some good DL as well.  All positions the Vikings could use an infusion of youth and talent at...  instead of arguing about what position (or player) our first pick should be, we should be happy that there is a good chance we can address most of these positions with a talented prospect in the first couple rounds.



Right, but couldn't you make that argument about every position on the defense? Everything is new. Not just for the pass rushers, but also the secondary. 

One of the positions I think many are overlooking is ILB. I saw Ben Leber talk about this recently. The best depth we have there is Blake Lynch. Now I love Lynch, but he's a UDFA and I'm not sure that Dye and Surratt are the best fits for 3-4 ILB. 

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