Vikes Sign G Chris Reed

@"minny65" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

Chad Forbes

@NFLDraftBites

Waiting on Terms, but very smart sign by #Vikings on Guard Chris Reed. Creates competing at both G spots. Great depth too. Perfect scheme fit. One of the more underrated FAs.

Now that is something special :)

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"dadevike" said: But can he play Center? Just asking for a friend.

Wyatt Davis can….

 It's possible Wyatt is a bust.

Possible? I know this is only year 2 for him but unfortunately it’s not only possible but probable that the dude is a stone cole bust. Hopefully everything clicks but until TC reports say he’s a different player than there’s not any substantial reason to think he’ll contribute. 

Just his pedigree...the fact that he was a 2-time All American from one of the best programs in college football and a 3rd round draft pick.

Stone cold bust is a distinct possibility, but right now there's no reason to think that his problem was anything more than conditioning. 

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"dadevike" said: But can he play Center? Just asking for a friend.

Wyatt Davis can….

 It's possible Wyatt is a bust.

Possible? I know this is only year 2 for him but unfortunately it’s not only possible but probable that the dude is a stone cole bust. Hopefully everything clicks but until TC reports say he’s a different player than there’s not any substantial reason to think he’ll contribute. 

Just his pedigree...the fact that he was a 2-time All American from one of the best programs in college football and a 3rd round draft pick.

Stone cold bust is a distinct possibility, but right now there's no reason to think that his problem was anything more than conditioning. 

Your take is hilarious.  He had a entire NFL season to get in shape.  If he chose not to do so, you by definition already have another issue.  Add on top of that his large drop off in play and injuries that led to him falling down the draft board and I think there’s a little more than conditioning to be worried about.  I mean work ethic, injuries, and performance issues, coupled with not sniffing the field at our spot in most need all send up a few flags for me.  Maybe I’m crazy that way.  Lol

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"dadevike" said: But can he play Center? Just asking for a friend.

Wyatt Davis can….

 It's possible Wyatt is a bust.

Possible? I know this is only year 2 for him but unfortunately it’s not only possible but probable that the dude is a stone cole bust. Hopefully everything clicks but until TC reports say he’s a different player than there’s not any substantial reason to think he’ll contribute. 

Just his pedigree...the fact that he was a 2-time All American from one of the best programs in college football and a 3rd round draft pick.

Stone cold bust is a distinct possibility, but right now there's no reason to think that his problem was anything more than conditioning. 

Your take is hilarious.  He had a entire NFL season to get in shape.  If he chose not to do so, you by definition already have another issue.  Add on top of that his large drop off in play and injuries that led to him falling down the draft board and I think there’s a little more than conditioning to be worried about.  I mean work ethic, injuries, and performance issues, coupled with not sniffing the field at our spot in most need all send up a few flags for me.  Maybe I’m crazy that way.  Lol

Zimmer had a hard on against offensive rookies the whole time he was here,  its known he was feuding with Spielman this last year,  and we know Zim is a petty bitch.  O also think he knew he was out months before it was made official,  why is it hard for fathom that the reason. Davis didn't play is due to zims petty shit and not really a mark of the kids future potential? 

I've said it plenty,  but I dont think we can really say we learned much of anything on our young players this last year.

@"MarkSP18" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"dadevike" said: But can he play Center? Just asking for a friend.

Wyatt Davis can….

 It's possible Wyatt is a bust.

Possible? I know this is only year 2 for him but unfortunately it’s not only possible but probable that the dude is a stone cole bust. Hopefully everything clicks but until TC reports say he’s a different player than there’s not any substantial reason to think he’ll contribute. 

Just his pedigree...the fact that he was a 2-time All American from one of the best programs in college football and a 3rd round draft pick.

Stone cold bust is a distinct possibility, but right now there's no reason to think that his problem was anything more than conditioning. 

Your take is hilarious.  He had a entire NFL season to get in shape.  If he chose not to do so, you by definition already have another issue.  Add on top of that his large drop off in play and injuries that led to him falling down the draft board and I think there’s a little more than conditioning to be worried about.  I mean work ethic, injuries, and performance issues, coupled with not sniffing the field at our spot in most need all send up a few flags for me.  Maybe I’m crazy that way.  Lol

I think you may want to know more about Davis' final season at OSU.

https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2021/04/will-ohio-state-footballs-wyatt-davis-healthy-after-a-season-of-secret-pain-make-an-immediate-nfl-impact.html

By the end of the 2020 season, it was obvious Davis was playing through some sort of injury. He said he “banged up” his knee some time in the Indiana game, and still is not sure exactly what happened.

He aggravated it in the win at Michigan State — he exited that game early and was visibly in pain on the sideline — and again in the national championship against Alabama. Davis said OSU’s athletic staff examined the injury during the season and told him it was a “low-level deal,” but that something “just didn’t feel right.”

Davis received a second opinion after the season. He did not disclose the diagnosis, except to say the injury did not require surgery. He focused on rehab so he could go into OSU’s Pro Day on March 30 as healthy as possible.

“I wanted to play, even if I would have known what my injury was prior,” Davis said of the national championship game. “I still would have played, just because we were right there. It was either all in or nothing. So it was pretty easy for me to make that decision.”
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The dude likely was not all the way back by training camp and the fact he did not play is something I would not use against him because almost all the 3rd round picks got very few snaps.  Not sure why but a lot of folks are putting that on Zimmer being a horse's arse.
I have no idea if he was in shape or not in shape and I am not sure anyone on a fan site would know either.  I mean, if he really was not in shape they could have put him on the PUP list right?

The dude did not shut it down to protect his draft status and toughed it out to try and help his team win.
I kind of like that spirit myself.

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"dadevike" said: But can he play Center? Just asking for a friend.

Wyatt Davis can….

 It's possible Wyatt is a bust.

Possible? I know this is only year 2 for him but unfortunately it’s not only possible but probable that the dude is a stone cole bust. Hopefully everything clicks but until TC reports say he’s a different player than there’s not any substantial reason to think he’ll contribute. 

Just his pedigree...the fact that he was a 2-time All American from one of the best programs in college football and a 3rd round draft pick.

Stone cold bust is a distinct possibility, but right now there's no reason to think that his problem was anything more than conditioning. 

Your take is hilarious.  He had a entire NFL season to get in shape.  If he chose not to do so, you by definition already have another issue.  Add on top of that his large drop off in play and injuries that led to him falling down the draft board and I think there’s a little more than conditioning to be worried about.  I mean work ethic, injuries, and performance issues, coupled with not sniffing the field at our spot in most need all send up a few flags for me.  Maybe I’m crazy that way.  Lol

@"kmillard" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"dadevike" said: But can he play Center? Just asking for a friend.

Wyatt Davis can….

 It's possible Wyatt is a bust.

Possible? I know this is only year 2 for him but unfortunately it’s not only possible but probable that the dude is a stone cole bust. Hopefully everything clicks but until TC reports say he’s a different player than there’s not any substantial reason to think he’ll contribute. 

Just his pedigree...the fact that he was a 2-time All American from one of the best programs in college football and a 3rd round draft pick.

Stone cold bust is a distinct possibility, but right now there's no reason to think that his problem was anything more than conditioning. 

Your take is hilarious.  He had a entire NFL season to get in shape.  If he chose not to do so, you by definition already have another issue.  Add on top of that his large drop off in play and injuries that led to him falling down the draft board and I think there’s a little more than conditioning to be worried about.  I mean work ethic, injuries, and performance issues, coupled with not sniffing the field at our spot in most need all send up a few flags for me.  Maybe I’m crazy that way.  Lol

I have to defend MB here as that is all we ever heard from the Vikings was a conditioning issue. Now, whether that was true as to the only issue or if it was more of a Mike Zimmer doghouse issue who knows? I do know that after watching him in college I was shocked as to what happened last year. Sure would be nice for him to pan out and play to his potential though, they would have a top caliber guard for once.

@"minny65" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

Chad Forbes

@NFLDraftBites

Waiting on Terms, but very smart sign by #Vikings on Guard Chris Reed. Creates competing at both G spots. Great depth too. Perfect scheme fit. One of the more underrated FAs.

Now that is something special :)

Ha! I was going to comment that this was the part that didn't ring true to me. None of these guys are going to compete with Ezra. But I like your interpretation better. :-)

 Yea and most guys, even NFL players, have a HARD time competing for one G spot.  He is getting to the second level folks :) 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"dadevike" said: But can he play Center? Just asking for a friend.

Wyatt Davis can….

 It's possible Wyatt is a bust.

Possible? I know this is only year 2 for him but unfortunately it’s not only possible but probable that the dude is a stone cole bust. Hopefully everything clicks but until TC reports say he’s a different player than there’s not any substantial reason to think he’ll contribute. 

Just his pedigree...the fact that he was a 2-time All American from one of the best programs in college football and a 3rd round draft pick.

Stone cold bust is a distinct possibility, but right now there's no reason to think that his problem was anything more than conditioning. 

Your take is hilarious.  He had a entire NFL season to get in shape.  If he chose not to do so, you by definition already have another issue.  Add on top of that his large drop off in play and injuries that led to him falling down the draft board and I think there’s a little more than conditioning to be worried about.  I mean work ethic, injuries, and performance issues, coupled with not sniffing the field at our spot in most need all send up a few flags for me.  Maybe I’m crazy that way.  Lol

Which part of my take did you find hilarious? That he could be a stone cold bust, or that his problem may have been conditioning? 

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"dadevike" said: But can he play Center? Just asking for a friend.

Wyatt Davis can….

 It's possible Wyatt is a bust.

Possible? I know this is only year 2 for him but unfortunately it’s not only possible but probable that the dude is a stone cole bust. Hopefully everything clicks but until TC reports say he’s a different player than there’s not any substantial reason to think he’ll contribute. 

Just his pedigree...the fact that he was a 2-time All American from one of the best programs in college football and a 3rd round draft pick.

Stone cold bust is a distinct possibility, but right now there's no reason to think that his problem was anything more than conditioning. 

Your take is hilarious.  He had a entire NFL season to get in shape.  If he chose not to do so, you by definition already have another issue.  Add on top of that his large drop off in play and injuries that led to him falling down the draft board and I think there’s a little more than conditioning to be worried about.  I mean work ethic, injuries, and performance issues, coupled with not sniffing the field at our spot in most need all send up a few flags for me.  Maybe I’m crazy that way.  Lol

Which part of my take did you find hilarious? That he could be a stone cold bust, or that his problem may have been conditioning? 

His problem appears to be nothing other than conditioning?   Yeah, I’ll take that to the bank.  It’s not an either or proposition.  It could be numerous factors at work, as it usually is, but you’ve pinpointed the ONE issue that is the root cause. Of course, even if you were right, it would point to a lack of dedication as a secondary issue.  And I sincerely doubt you’ve pinpointed anything other than wishful thinking.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"dadevike" said: But can he play Center? Just asking for a friend.

Wyatt Davis can….

 It's possible Wyatt is a bust.

Possible? I know this is only year 2 for him but unfortunately it’s not only possible but probable that the dude is a stone cole bust. Hopefully everything clicks but until TC reports say he’s a different player than there’s not any substantial reason to think he’ll contribute. 

Just his pedigree...the fact that he was a 2-time All American from one of the best programs in college football and a 3rd round draft pick.

Stone cold bust is a distinct possibility, but right now there's no reason to think that his problem was anything more than conditioning. 

Your take is hilarious.  He had a entire NFL season to get in shape.  If he chose not to do so, you by definition already have another issue.  Add on top of that his large drop off in play and injuries that led to him falling down the draft board and I think there’s a little more than conditioning to be worried about.  I mean work ethic, injuries, and performance issues, coupled with not sniffing the field at our spot in most need all send up a few flags for me.  Maybe I’m crazy that way.  Lol

Which part of my take did you find hilarious? That he could be a stone cold bust, or that his problem may have been conditioning? 

His problem appears to be nothing other than conditioning?   Yeah, I’ll take that to the bank.  It’s not an either or proposition.  It could be numerous factors at work, as it usually is, but you’ve pinpointed the ONE issue that is the root cause. Of course, even if you were right, it would point to a lack of dedication as a secondary issue.  And I sincerely doubt you’ve pinpointed anything other than wishful thinking.

God, you're so weird. 

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"dadevike" said: But can he play Center? Just asking for a friend.

Wyatt Davis can….

 It's possible Wyatt is a bust.

Possible? I know this is only year 2 for him but unfortunately it’s not only possible but probable that the dude is a stone cole bust. Hopefully everything clicks but until TC reports say he’s a different player than there’s not any substantial reason to think he’ll contribute. 

Just his pedigree...the fact that he was a 2-time All American from one of the best programs in college football and a 3rd round draft pick.

Stone cold bust is a distinct possibility, but right now there's no reason to think that his problem was anything more than conditioning. 

Your take is hilarious.  He had a entire NFL season to get in shape.  If he chose not to do so, you by definition already have another issue.  Add on top of that his large drop off in play and injuries that led to him falling down the draft board and I think there’s a little more than conditioning to be worried about.  I mean work ethic, injuries, and performance issues, coupled with not sniffing the field at our spot in most need all send up a few flags for me.  Maybe I’m crazy that way.  Lol

Which part of my take did you find hilarious? That he could be a stone cold bust, or that his problem may have been conditioning? 

His problem appears to be nothing other than conditioning?   Yeah, I’ll take that to the bank.  It’s not an either or proposition.  It could be numerous factors at work, as it usually is, but you’ve pinpointed the ONE issue that is the root cause. Of course, even if you were right, it would point to a lack of dedication as a secondary issue.  And I sincerely doubt you’ve pinpointed anything other than wishful thinking.

God, you're so weird. 

Lol.  Way to argue your asinine assertion.  You said his only problem appears to be conditioning.   It was a terrifically uninformed POV is all.  Even if you happened to be right, it would be under the same logic as a broken clock is right twice per day variety.  Lol

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"dadevike" said: But can he play Center? Just asking for a friend.

Wyatt Davis can….

 It's possible Wyatt is a bust.

Possible? I know this is only year 2 for him but unfortunately it’s not only possible but probable that the dude is a stone cole bust. Hopefully everything clicks but until TC reports say he’s a different player than there’s not any substantial reason to think he’ll contribute. 

Just his pedigree...the fact that he was a 2-time All American from one of the best programs in college football and a 3rd round draft pick.

Stone cold bust is a distinct possibility, but right now there's no reason to think that his problem was anything more than conditioning. 

Your take is hilarious.  He had a entire NFL season to get in shape.  If he chose not to do so, you by definition already have another issue.  Add on top of that his large drop off in play and injuries that led to him falling down the draft board and I think there’s a little more than conditioning to be worried about.  I mean work ethic, injuries, and performance issues, coupled with not sniffing the field at our spot in most need all send up a few flags for me.  Maybe I’m crazy that way.  Lol

Which part of my take did you find hilarious? That he could be a stone cold bust, or that his problem may have been conditioning? 

His problem appears to be nothing other than conditioning?   Yeah, I’ll take that to the bank.  It’s not an either or proposition.  It could be numerous factors at work, as it usually is, but you’ve pinpointed the ONE issue that is the root cause. Of course, even if you were right, it would point to a lack of dedication as a secondary issue.  And I sincerely doubt you’ve pinpointed anything other than wishful thinking.

God, you're so weird. 

Lol.  Way to argue your asinine assertion.  You said his only problem appears to be conditioning.   It was a terrifically uninformed POV is all.  Even if you happened to be right, it would be under the same logic as a broken clock is right twice per day variety.  Lol

Calm down, cupcake. I've said repeatedly that I don't know for sure what his problem was/is. We're all just speculating. To me, the biggest clue is that he's at a fat camp on a meal plan. But who really cares whether I'm right or wrong? That you obviously do is....really strange. 

All this talk about Davis and conditioning may be part of the reason he never saw the field.  But Zimmer had a habit of deciding his starters in training camp and if Davis was out of shape due to an injury or some other reason he starts off behind and in the doghouse.  Once the season starts practice time is limited to next game prep and doesn't allow a depth guy much time to show he can compete.  So again Davis is behind the 8 ball even though he may be ready to play.  Zimmer most likely knew he had to win to keep his job and wasn't going to play a 3rd round rookie on the offensive line, and Davis was never going to see the field with Udoh and Dozier ahead of him on the depth chart unless there was a rash of injury's and he is the last man healthy.  

As far as Davis getting on a meal plan and seeking outside help with his diet, alot of players come into the league and see what a toll it takes on their bodies and clean up their diets with help from a nutritionist so what's the big deal with Davis doing this exact thing?  Doesn't mean he was fat or completely out of shape.

@"Greylock" said: All this talk about Davis and conditioning may be part of the reason he never saw the field.  But Zimmer had a habit of deciding his starters in training camp and if Davis was out of shape due to an injury or some other reason he starts off behind and in the doghouse.  Once the season starts practice time is limited to next game prep and doesn't allow a depth guy much time to show he can compete.  So again Davis is behind the 8 ball even though he may be ready to play.  Zimmer most likely knew he had to win to keep his job and wasn't going to play a 3rd round rookie on the offensive line, and Davis was never going to see the field with Udoh and Dozier ahead of him on the depth chart unless there was a rash of injury's and he is the last man healthy.  

As far as Davis getting on a meal plan and seeking outside help with his diet, alot of players come into the league and see what a toll it takes on their bodies and clean up their diets with help from a nutritionist so what's the big deal with Davis doing this exact thing?  Doesn't mean he was fat or completely out of shape.

He didn’t allow this depth guy any chance whatsoever.  He also ended up starting fellow rookie Darrisaw who was injured all of training camp.  Want a good comparison from a trajectory standpoint?  Try Dru Samia.  How has he worked out? I hope somehow he fixes the things that were holding him back.  Perhaps conditioning was piece of that early on.  But to assert that we somehow can point the finger at conditioning as the “probable” reason for him not seeing the field last year is ridiculous.  Far more likely to be physical limitations and inability to execute in a zone scheme along with a slower than optimal learning curve and work ethic.   But no, he’ll run a few more laps and do some more sit-ups and be All-Pro.  Lol.  

I don't know if I would go so far as to call the man fat.

JUST BE AVERAGE: New Minnesota Vikings offensive lineman Chris Reed graded 39th out of 88 guards, per Pro Football Focus.

That kind of production would be a welcome upgrade for the Vikings! 🙏💪🏈 pic.twitter.com/mxh8PCNnP4

— SKOR North - Minnesota Sports (@SKORNorth) April 4, 2022

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/SKORNorth/status/1510990851731820550?t=fXNhvFe5m_ESHmrFnQRfVA&s=19

in fairness... at least 2 of those graded below him are guys he is replacing,  so while he will most likely be an improvement, how big of one remains to be seen considering how far down we are starting from.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/SKORNorth/status/1510990851731820550?t=fXNhvFe5m_ESHmrFnQRfVA&s=19

in fairness... at least 2 of those graded below him are guys he is replacing,  so while he will most likely be an improvement, how big of one remains to be seen considering how far down we are starting from.