Vikings Mock Draft v3.26

I like the Gilmore signing, but Tretter seems like he might be damaged goods. I'd almost rather have Patrick Peterson back as he'd likely come cheaper then Gilmore. 

Love Penning, just not sure he holds the same value as a guard or if that's a transition he could make. Mafe would give us depth at OLB but I like our depth currently and the guys behind Hunter and Smith. I'm a Travis Jones guy so I like that pick. Still think we need to draft another corner higher then the 6th round 

love the effort, love the players you highlighted but I feel there is 0% chance they don't take a CB in first two rounds.  I think the first round but they coild wait til the 2nd if the draft falls right for them.

Appreciate the effort and thought into this.

I don't think Tretter could pass a physical right now. 

Jones, Beavers, and Bellinger are personal favorites.

Definitely need to hit LB a couple times as our depth is abysmal. Beavers could hit inside or out. Boye or Ojabo with our second.

Penning is simply a luxury we can't afford. Get this scoring D to NFL average and we win 12 games last year. Top 3 picks should all be on D.

@"supafreak84" said: I like the Gilmore signing, but Tretter seems like he might be damaged goods. I'd almost rather have Patrick Peterson back as he'd likely come cheaper then Gilmore. 

Love Penning, just not sure he holds the same value as a guard or if that's a transition he could make. Mafe would give us depth at OLB but I like our depth currently and the guys behind Hunter and Smith. I'm a Travis Jones guy so I like that pick. Still think we need to draft another corner higher then the 6th round 

Penning does have a little experience playing right guard and the coaches at the Senior Bowl had him practice at guard a lot.

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/spencer-brown-and-trevor-penning-nfl-draft-buffalo-bills-uni

"It's definitely crossed my mind for sure," Penning said of playing next to Brown. "I think it'd be super cool. My first start I actually played right guard next to him. That was a very cool experience so why not do it again?"

I do not think it is going to be too tough a transition for him.  Plus, I am not rubber stamping Darrisaw into a long term answer. He needs to play a full season and play well.

Penning is similar to Alex Boone, Andrus Peat, Rob Havenstein, and Tyson Clabo in size but he is much more athletic.

@"JustinTime18™" said: Appreciate the effort and thought into this.

I don't think Tretter could pass a physical right now. 

Jones, Beavers, and Bellinger are personal favorites.

Definitely need to hit LB a couple times as our depth is abysmal. Beavers could hit inside or out. Boye or Ojabo with our second.

Penning is simply a luxury we can't afford. Get this scoring D to NFL average and we win 12 games last year. Top 3 picks should all be on D.

After Zion Johnson, Kenyon Green, and Tyler Linderbaum the players drop off.  They may have to take yet another 5th round  pick or later with the hope that they pan out.  Sadly, it is the same scouts that brought us TJ Clemmings, Willie Beavers, Danny Isidora, Colby Gossett, Jeff Baca, Tyrus Thomson, David Yankey, Austin Shepherd, & Travis Bond.  These are 5th round or later picks from 2013 thru 2018.  We got Oli Udoh, Blake Brandel, and Kyle Hinton since 2019 and who there may still be a chance.

That is a terrible track record where you would expect to hit on one or maybe even two in that time frame.  Spielman is gone but not the scouts.

I am of the mindset that the defense is not going to get a whole heck of a lot better even if you spent every draft pick on defense.  Getting Hunter back should help a lot and Smith is proven when healthy but back surgery ain't no joke.

I think they should try to make the offense better and more prolific scoring wise.  The QB puts up good numbers as do the receivers and back.  But they are 14th in scoring which is not good enough.  The offense is closer to being top 10 in stats (if not already) AND scoring which will help the defense.  IMHO.

Nice work. I like the Deshon Elliot idea. We're all just assuming that Bynum is going to be the kind of player he flashed in glimpses last year. I hope so. But even if he is, Harry is 33. 

I don't think we want to add even more youth and inexperience onto the NFL's youngest line. Fill RG with a vet, a journeyman to compete with Wyatt Davis. But, y'know, someone with knees. Then draft the best CB available between Mac Junior and Sauce.  One will certainly be there. 

There are just four premium positions in the NFL and corner is one of them. Don't overthink this. Draft the goddamn corner. Edge is an option only if we sign an under-30, UFA starting outside corner in free agency. But even then, the edge you draft is going to spend a lot of time on the bench. That bang falls short of the buck for a win-now team. 

I'm far from a draftnik, but I am not convinced the little guy from Wash is worthy of 12 overall...To Geoff's point would we be better of going Dl #1 and DB at rd 2 without a big drop-off in talent/upside. 

This would be a fascinating year to see how they stack the DBs vs DL 

@"MaroonBells" said: Nice work. I like the Deshon Elliot idea. We're all just assuming that Bynum is going to be the kind of player he flashed in glimpses last year. I hope so. But even if he is, Harry is 33. 

I don't think we want to add even more youth and inexperience onto the NFL's youngest line. Fill RG with a vet, a journeyman to compete with Wyatt Davis. But, y'know, someone with knees. Then draft the best CB available between Mac Junior and Sauce.  One will certainly be there. 

There are just four premium positions in the NFL and corner is one of them. Don't overthink this. Draft the goddamn corner. Edge is an option only if we sign an under-30, UFA starting outside corner in free agency. But even then, the edge you draft is going to spend a lot of time on the bench. That bang falls short of the buck for a win-now team. 

I also do not think that a first round corner is a necessity.  Drafting for need is the worst philosophy IMHO.  That is how the team got Bradbury and Treadwell.  It also got them Jefferson though.

I thin Gardner is OK but he faced hardly any draft-able receivers.  He did face Alabama but who else did he face that got or is getting drafted?

Stingley has the tools but missed a lot of time.

I never pigeonhole myself into one position for any draft.

Is it just me or is it weird that the details of Thielen's deal STILL have not been released?

Usually it takes a few days but we are on day 9 now.

I wonder if they have a trade they are working on? 

I doubt it.

@"purplefaithful" said: I'm far from a draftnik, but I am not convinced the little guy from Wash is worthy of 12 overall...To Geoff's point would we be better of going Dl #1 and DB at rd 2 without a big drop-off in talent/upside. 

This would be a fascinating year to see how they stack the DBs vs DL 

@"MarkSP18" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Nice work. I like the Deshon Elliot idea. We're all just assuming that Bynum is going to be the kind of player he flashed in glimpses last year. I hope so. But even if he is, Harry is 33. 

I don't think we want to add even more youth and inexperience onto the NFL's youngest line. Fill RG with a vet, a journeyman to compete with Wyatt Davis. But, y'know, someone with knees. Then draft the best CB available between Mac Junior and Sauce.  One will certainly be there. 

There are just four premium positions in the NFL and corner is one of them. Don't overthink this. Draft the goddamn corner. Edge is an option only if we sign an under-30, UFA starting outside corner in free agency. But even then, the edge you draft is going to spend a lot of time on the bench. That bang falls short of the buck for a win-now team. 

There are not too many under 30 corners remaining in free agency that are good though. Is Kevin King good enough?  I think that with Dantzler being 24 and Sullivan being 26 when the season starts, having one experienced veteran corner is not the worst thing.

I also do not think that a first round corner is a necessity.  Drafting for need is the worst philosophy IMHO.  That is how the team got Bradbury and Treadwell.  It also got them Jefferson though.

I thin Gardner is OK but he faced hardly any draft-able receivers.  He did face Alabama but who else did he face that got or is getting drafted?

Stingley has the tools but missed a lot of time.

I never pigeonhole myself into one position for any draft.

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MarkSP18" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Nice work. I like the Deshon Elliot idea. We're all just assuming that Bynum is going to be the kind of player he flashed in glimpses last year. I hope so. But even if he is, Harry is 33. 

I don't think we want to add even more youth and inexperience onto the NFL's youngest line. Fill RG with a vet, a journeyman to compete with Wyatt Davis. But, y'know, someone with knees. Then draft the best CB available between Mac Junior and Sauce.  One will certainly be there. 

There are just four premium positions in the NFL and corner is one of them. Don't overthink this. Draft the goddamn corner. Edge is an option only if we sign an under-30, UFA starting outside corner in free agency. But even then, the edge you draft is going to spend a lot of time on the bench. That bang falls short of the buck for a win-now team. 

There are not too many under 30 corners remaining in free agency that are good though. Is Kevin King good enough?  I think that with Dantzler being 24 and Sullivan being 26 when the season starts, having one experienced veteran corner is not the worst thing.

I also do not think that a first round corner is a necessity.  Drafting for need is the worst philosophy IMHO.  That is how the team got Bradbury and Treadwell.  It also got them Jefferson though.

I thin Gardner is OK but he faced hardly any draft-able receivers.  He did face Alabama but who else did he face that got or is getting drafted?

Stingley has the tools but missed a lot of time.

I never pigeonhole myself into one position for any draft.

And to that very point, wouldn't the Vikings be awfully tempted if Olave, Wilson, Burks @ WR were there at 12?

@"supafreak84" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MarkSP18" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Nice work. I like the Deshon Elliot idea. We're all just assuming that Bynum is going to be the kind of player he flashed in glimpses last year. I hope so. But even if he is, Harry is 33. 

I don't think we want to add even more youth and inexperience onto the NFL's youngest line. Fill RG with a vet, a journeyman to compete with Wyatt Davis. But, y'know, someone with knees. Then draft the best CB available between Mac Junior and Sauce.  One will certainly be there. 

There are just four premium positions in the NFL and corner is one of them. Don't overthink this. Draft the goddamn corner. Edge is an option only if we sign an under-30, UFA starting outside corner in free agency. But even then, the edge you draft is going to spend a lot of time on the bench. That bang falls short of the buck for a win-now team. 

There are not too many under 30 corners remaining in free agency that are good though. Is Kevin King good enough?  I think that with Dantzler being 24 and Sullivan being 26 when the season starts, having one experienced veteran corner is not the worst thing.

I also do not think that a first round corner is a necessity.  Drafting for need is the worst philosophy IMHO.  That is how the team got Bradbury and Treadwell.  It also got them Jefferson though.

I thin Gardner is OK but he faced hardly any draft-able receivers.  He did face Alabama but who else did he face that got or is getting drafted?

Stingley has the tools but missed a lot of time.

I never pigeonhole myself into one position for any draft.

And to that very point, wouldn't the Vikings be awfully tempted if Olave, Wilson, Burks @ WR were there at 12?

I've been saying that depending on how the board falls...I could see us going with a WR. We are going to be employing more multiple WR sets under KOC and Thielen is 32, has missed games due to injury the last couple years, and his stats are way down. It's probably going to be his last year in Minnesota. I'm not sold on Osborne as a starting or full time outside WR and our depth is paper thin. Look at what Jamar Chase did for that Bengals offense coming in as a 3rd WR. I'd take one of those receivers before I'd take any CB not named Sauce or Stingley.

@"AGRforever" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MarkSP18" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Nice work. I like the Deshon Elliot idea. We're all just assuming that Bynum is going to be the kind of player he flashed in glimpses last year. I hope so. But even if he is, Harry is 33. 

I don't think we want to add even more youth and inexperience onto the NFL's youngest line. Fill RG with a vet, a journeyman to compete with Wyatt Davis. But, y'know, someone with knees. Then draft the best CB available between Mac Junior and Sauce.  One will certainly be there. 

There are just four premium positions in the NFL and corner is one of them. Don't overthink this. Draft the goddamn corner. Edge is an option only if we sign an under-30, UFA starting outside corner in free agency. But even then, the edge you draft is going to spend a lot of time on the bench. That bang falls short of the buck for a win-now team. 

There are not too many under 30 corners remaining in free agency that are good though. Is Kevin King good enough?  I think that with Dantzler being 24 and Sullivan being 26 when the season starts, having one experienced veteran corner is not the worst thing.

I also do not think that a first round corner is a necessity.  Drafting for need is the worst philosophy IMHO.  That is how the team got Bradbury and Treadwell.  It also got them Jefferson though.

I thin Gardner is OK but he faced hardly any draft-able receivers.  He did face Alabama but who else did he face that got or is getting drafted?

Stingley has the tools but missed a lot of time.

I never pigeonhole myself into one position for any draft.

And to that very point, wouldn't the Vikings be awfully tempted if Olave, Wilson, Burks @ WR were there at 12?

I've been saying that depending on how the board falls...I could see us going with a WR. We are going to be employing more multiple WR sets under KOC and Thielen is 32, has missed games due to injury the last couple years, and his stats are way down. It's probably going to be his last year in Minnesota. I'm not sold on Osborne as a starting or full time outside WR and our depth is paper thin. Look at what Jamar Chase did for that Bengals offense coming in as a 3rd WR. I'd take one of those receivers before I'd take any CB not named Sauce or Stingley.

Its quite likely that I’d need a new TV if we went WR. 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MarkSP18" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Nice work. I like the Deshon Elliot idea. We're all just assuming that Bynum is going to be the kind of player he flashed in glimpses last year. I hope so. But even if he is, Harry is 33. 

I don't think we want to add even more youth and inexperience onto the NFL's youngest line. Fill RG with a vet, a journeyman to compete with Wyatt Davis. But, y'know, someone with knees. Then draft the best CB available between Mac Junior and Sauce.  One will certainly be there. 

There are just four premium positions in the NFL and corner is one of them. Don't overthink this. Draft the goddamn corner. Edge is an option only if we sign an under-30, UFA starting outside corner in free agency. But even then, the edge you draft is going to spend a lot of time on the bench. That bang falls short of the buck for a win-now team. 

There are not too many under 30 corners remaining in free agency that are good though. Is Kevin King good enough?  I think that with Dantzler being 24 and Sullivan being 26 when the season starts, having one experienced veteran corner is not the worst thing.

I also do not think that a first round corner is a necessity.  Drafting for need is the worst philosophy IMHO.  That is how the team got Bradbury and Treadwell.  It also got them Jefferson though.

I thin Gardner is OK but he faced hardly any draft-able receivers.  He did face Alabama but who else did he face that got or is getting drafted?

Stingley has the tools but missed a lot of time.

I never pigeonhole myself into one position for any draft.

And to that very point, wouldn't the Vikings be awfully tempted if Olave, Wilson, Burks @ WR were there at 12?

I've been saying that depending on how the board falls...I could see us going with a WR. We are going to be employing more multiple WR sets under KOC and Thielen is 32, has missed games due to injury the last couple years, and his stats are way down. It's probably going to be his last year in Minnesota. I'm not sold on Osborne as a starting or full time outside WR and our depth is paper thin. Look at what Jamar Chase did for that Bengals offense coming in as a 3rd WR. I'd take one of those receivers before I'd take any CB not named Sauce or Stingley.

Its quite likely that I’d need a new TV if we went WR. 

I'll bet we could find a similar quote somewhere in Dan Hildreth's Olde Viking board from 98 too...

yah, yah I know Moss ended up a HOF'er and wasn't drafted till like 21 - but you get the point. 

Moss/Carter/Reid reignited a sleepy Vikings franchise for the next 6/7 years. 

I get it Maroon...I'm not getting very excited about a DB #1 again but openly acknowledge the need. 

Sauce will most likely be gone, Stingley will be for sure if some team or teams clear him medically. So that leaves the Washington kid @ 12. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MarkSP18" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Nice work. I like the Deshon Elliot idea. We're all just assuming that Bynum is going to be the kind of player he flashed in glimpses last year. I hope so. But even if he is, Harry is 33. 

I don't think we want to add even more youth and inexperience onto the NFL's youngest line. Fill RG with a vet, a journeyman to compete with Wyatt Davis. But, y'know, someone with knees. Then draft the best CB available between Mac Junior and Sauce.  One will certainly be there. 

There are just four premium positions in the NFL and corner is one of them. Don't overthink this. Draft the goddamn corner. Edge is an option only if we sign an under-30, UFA starting outside corner in free agency. But even then, the edge you draft is going to spend a lot of time on the bench. That bang falls short of the buck for a win-now team. 

There are not too many under 30 corners remaining in free agency that are good though. Is Kevin King good enough?  I think that with Dantzler being 24 and Sullivan being 26 when the season starts, having one experienced veteran corner is not the worst thing.

I also do not think that a first round corner is a necessity.  Drafting for need is the worst philosophy IMHO.  That is how the team got Bradbury and Treadwell.  It also got them Jefferson though.

I thin Gardner is OK but he faced hardly any draft-able receivers.  He did face Alabama but who else did he face that got or is getting drafted?

Stingley has the tools but missed a lot of time.

I never pigeonhole myself into one position for any draft.

And to that very point, wouldn't the Vikings be awfully tempted if Olave, Wilson, Burks @ WR were there at 12?

I've been saying that depending on how the board falls...I could see us going with a WR. We are going to be employing more multiple WR sets under KOC and Thielen is 32, has missed games due to injury the last couple years, and his stats are way down. It's probably going to be his last year in Minnesota. I'm not sold on Osborne as a starting or full time outside WR and our depth is paper thin. Look at what Jamar Chase did for that Bengals offense coming in as a 3rd WR. I'd take one of those receivers before I'd take any CB not named Sauce or Stingley.

Its quite likely that I’d need a new TV if we went WR. 

I'll bet we could find a similar quote somewhere in Dan Hildreth's Olde Viking board from 98 too...

yah, yah I know Moss ended up a HOF'er and wasn't drafted till like 21 - but you get the point. 

Moss/Carter/Reid reignited a sleepy Vikings franchise for the next 6/7 years. 

People use Moss as a defense for BPA. But Moss was an outlier--a team taking advantage of a big mistake the NFL was making. Typically, the players you're choosing from are very closely ranked regardless of their position, so you draft the position you need the most. BPA is mostly a myth outside of the top 5-ish. 

So yeah, if Aidan Hutchinson drops to 12, I will not argue against taking him. B)

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: I'm far from a draftnik, but I am not convinced the little guy from Wash is worthy of 12 overall...To Geoff's point would we be better of going Dl #1 and DB at rd 2 without a big drop-off in talent/upside. 

This would be a fascinating year to see how they stack the DBs vs DL 

McDuffie has short arms. But at 5-11, 195, I wouldn't call him a little guy. 5-11 is the exact average height for NFL cornerbacks. There does seem to be some disagreement on him, though, with some ranking him late in the 1st, while others have him top 10. I think as we get closer you'll see all those late-1st folks move him up with the others. 

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MarkSP18" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Nice work. I like the Deshon Elliot idea. We're all just assuming that Bynum is going to be the kind of player he flashed in glimpses last year. I hope so. But even if he is, Harry is 33. 

I don't think we want to add even more youth and inexperience onto the NFL's youngest line. Fill RG with a vet, a journeyman to compete with Wyatt Davis. But, y'know, someone with knees. Then draft the best CB available between Mac Junior and Sauce.  One will certainly be there. 

There are just four premium positions in the NFL and corner is one of them. Don't overthink this. Draft the goddamn corner. Edge is an option only if we sign an under-30, UFA starting outside corner in free agency. But even then, the edge you draft is going to spend a lot of time on the bench. That bang falls short of the buck for a win-now team. 

There are not too many under 30 corners remaining in free agency that are good though. Is Kevin King good enough?  I think that with Dantzler being 24 and Sullivan being 26 when the season starts, having one experienced veteran corner is not the worst thing.

I also do not think that a first round corner is a necessity.  Drafting for need is the worst philosophy IMHO.  That is how the team got Bradbury and Treadwell.  It also got them Jefferson though.

I thin Gardner is OK but he faced hardly any draft-able receivers.  He did face Alabama but who else did he face that got or is getting drafted?

Stingley has the tools but missed a lot of time.

I never pigeonhole myself into one position for any draft.

And to that very point, wouldn't the Vikings be awfully tempted if Olave, Wilson, Burks @ WR were there at 12?

I've been saying that depending on how the board falls...I could see us going with a WR. We are going to be employing more multiple WR sets under KOC and Thielen is 32, has missed games due to injury the last couple years, and his stats are way down. It's probably going to be his last year in Minnesota. I'm not sold on Osborne as a starting or full time outside WR and our depth is paper thin. Look at what Jamar Chase did for that Bengals offense coming in as a 3rd WR. I'd take one of those receivers before I'd take any CB not named Sauce or Stingley.

Its quite likely that I’d need a new TV if we went WR. 

I'll bet we could find a similar quote somewhere in Dan Hildreth's Olde Viking board from 98 too...

yah, yah I know Moss ended up a HOF'er and wasn't drafted till like 21 - but you get the point. 

Moss/Carter/Reid reignited a sleepy Vikings franchise for the next 6/7 years. 

People use Moss as a defense for BPA. But Moss was an outlier--a team taking advantage of a big mistake the NFL was making. Typically, the players you're choosing from are very closely ranked regardless of their position, so you draft the position you need the most. BPA is mostly a myth outside of the top 5-ish. 

So yeah, if Aidan Hutchinson drops to 12, I will not argue against taking him. B)

More realistically, if Kyle Hamilton drops to #12.. Although unlikely its a scenario that could play out. 

At that point you need to ask positional value aside, does he make the secondary better? Yes. Take a potential all pro. 

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MarkSP18" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Nice work. I like the Deshon Elliot idea. We're all just assuming that Bynum is going to be the kind of player he flashed in glimpses last year. I hope so. But even if he is, Harry is 33. 

I don't think we want to add even more youth and inexperience onto the NFL's youngest line. Fill RG with a vet, a journeyman to compete with Wyatt Davis. But, y'know, someone with knees. Then draft the best CB available between Mac Junior and Sauce.  One will certainly be there. 

There are just four premium positions in the NFL and corner is one of them. Don't overthink this. Draft the goddamn corner. Edge is an option only if we sign an under-30, UFA starting outside corner in free agency. But even then, the edge you draft is going to spend a lot of time on the bench. That bang falls short of the buck for a win-now team. 

There are not too many under 30 corners remaining in free agency that are good though. Is Kevin King good enough?  I think that with Dantzler being 24 and Sullivan being 26 when the season starts, having one experienced veteran corner is not the worst thing.

I also do not think that a first round corner is a necessity.  Drafting for need is the worst philosophy IMHO.  That is how the team got Bradbury and Treadwell.  It also got them Jefferson though.

I thin Gardner is OK but he faced hardly any draft-able receivers.  He did face Alabama but who else did he face that got or is getting drafted?

Stingley has the tools but missed a lot of time.

I never pigeonhole myself into one position for any draft.

And to that very point, wouldn't the Vikings be awfully tempted if Olave, Wilson, Burks @ WR were there at 12?

I've been saying that depending on how the board falls...I could see us going with a WR. We are going to be employing more multiple WR sets under KOC and Thielen is 32, has missed games due to injury the last couple years, and his stats are way down. It's probably going to be his last year in Minnesota. I'm not sold on Osborne as a starting or full time outside WR and our depth is paper thin. Look at what Jamar Chase did for that Bengals offense coming in as a 3rd WR. I'd take one of those receivers before I'd take any CB not named Sauce or Stingley.

Its quite likely that I’d need a new TV if we went WR. 

I'll bet we could find a similar quote somewhere in Dan Hildreth's Olde Viking board from 98 too...

yah, yah I know Moss ended up a HOF'er and wasn't drafted till like 21 - but you get the point. 

Moss/Carter/Reid reignited a sleepy Vikings franchise for the next 6/7 years. 

People use Moss as a defense for BPA. But Moss was an outlier--a team taking advantage of a big mistake the NFL was making. Typically, the players you're choosing from are very closely ranked regardless of their position, so you draft the position you need the most. BPA is mostly a myth outside of the top 5-ish. 

So yeah, if Aidan Hutchinson drops to 12, I will not argue against taking him. B)

More realistically, if Kyle Hamilton drops to #12.. Although unlikely its a scenario that could play out. 

At that point you need to ask positional value aside, does he make the secondary better? Yes. Take a potential all pro. 

I've been wondering about Hamilton potentially dropping based on his position and slower then expected 40 time, and although not a huge need, the Vikings would almost have to take him. I'm a believer in never taking a safety in the 1st round unless it's a Sean Taylor talent. Hamilton isn't Sean Taylor...but he isn't that far off either. That would be an interesting situation if he dropped that far.