Vikings actively shopping Hunter

Maybe my expectations were/are too high, color me unimpressed so far…

Yep, we have a tier 2 QB we pay tier 1 money, then we get rid of a tier 1 DE we have no replacement for?  Why did they bother to fire Spielman?  Like the other post said: 

@"supafreak84" said: Per Goessling, trying to move him before Sundays deadline where he's due his 18 million roster bonus. 

If their choice was to re sign Cousins and trade away Hunter...my faith in this new regime is completely shot to hell. That's as bad as it gets 

If he is moved for crappy value we will start to hear the "defensive/apologists" rumblings that he wanted too much, he wanted to be traded, he didn't want to play in a 3-4 etc....

We got value (JJ) when Diggs kind of tweeted his way out of Minny with some sly shittalk of Cousins :) 

At least Griffin (Cowboys) made his peace with Kirk's weirdness for a one year contract :)

Using those two as examples of "where their is smoke...at least sometimes their is a Fire".  Which also reminds me of all the little leaks with Zimmer the last 4+ years.  Suddenly, everyone is a believer that Zimmer is a psycho and not a good leader of a whole team...which, hmmm a few us have been saying for a couple years.  Unfortunately the few were right.

@"HappyViking" said:

Yep, we have a tier 2 QB we pay tier 1 money, then we get rid of a tier 1 DE we have no replacement for?  Why did they bother to fire Spielman?  Like the other post said: 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"HappyViking" said:

Yep, we have a tier 2 QB we pay tier 1 money, then we get rid of a tier 1 DE we have no replacement for?  Why did they bother to fire Spielman?  Like the other post said: 

Hunter will be easy to replace,  hell I will be happy to sit on the sidelines every sunday for much less than hunter has made the last few years.  If the front office isnt convinced,  with all the medical information at their disposal,  that he is to much of a risk to extend a top dollar deal to,  then we should be happy that they arent just taking the easy route.  We are where we are now as a team/roster because of a front office that took the easy route.

@"HappyViking" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"HappyViking" said:

Yep, we have a tier 2 QB we pay tier 1 money, then we get rid of a tier 1 DE we have no replacement for?  Why did they bother to fire Spielman?  Like the other post said: 

Hunter will be easy to replace,  hell I will be happy to sit on the sidelines every sunday for much less than hunter has made the last few years.  If the front office isnt convinced,  with all the medical information at their disposal,  that he is to much of a risk to extend a top dollar deal to,  then we should be happy that they arent just taking the easy route.  We are where we are now as a team/roster because of a front office that took the easy route.

In the seven games Danielle played in he still finished second on the team in sacks with six.  Wonnum led the team in sacks last season with 8 but he also played in all 17 games. I don't agree All Pro talent is easily replaced.  If Danielle just wants out, then the Vikings can't do much with him.  But, if there's a way of keeping our best defensive player, I'd love to see him stay.  Our D sucked last year, and I can't see how having less talent on the roster next season will improve things.

@"HappyViking" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"HappyViking" said:

Yep, we have a tier 2 QB we pay tier 1 money, then we get rid of a tier 1 DE we have no replacement for?  Why did they bother to fire Spielman?  Like the other post said: 

Hunter will be easy to replace,  hell I will be happy to sit on the sidelines every sunday for much less than hunter has made the last few years.  If the front office isnt convinced,  with all the medical information at their disposal,  that he is to much of a risk to extend a top dollar deal to,  then we should be happy that they arent just taking the easy route.  We are where we are now as a team/roster because of a front office that took the easy route.

In the seven games Danielle played in he still finished second on the team in sacks with six.  Wonnum led the team in sacks last season with 8 but he also played in all 17 games. I don't agree All Pro talent is easily replaced.  If Danielle just wants out, then the Vikings can't do much with him.  But, if there's a way of keeping our best defensive player, I'd love to see him stay.  Our D sucked last year, and I can't see how having less talent on the roster next season will improve things.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"HappyViking" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"HappyViking" said:

Yep, we have a tier 2 QB we pay tier 1 money, then we get rid of a tier 1 DE we have no replacement for?  Why did they bother to fire Spielman?  Like the other post said: 

Hunter will be easy to replace,  hell I will be happy to sit on the sidelines every sunday for much less than hunter has made the last few years.  If the front office isnt convinced,  with all the medical information at their disposal,  that he is to much of a risk to extend a top dollar deal to,  then we should be happy that they arent just taking the easy route.  We are where we are now as a team/roster because of a front office that took the easy route.

In the seven games Danielle played in he still finished second on the team in sacks with six.  Wonnum led the team in sacks last season with 8 but he also played in all 17 games. I don't agree All Pro talent is easily replaced.  If Danielle just wants out, then the Vikings can't do much with him.  But, if there's a way of keeping our best defensive player, I'd love to see him stay.  Our D sucked last year, and I can't see how having less talent on the roster next season will improve things.

you missed my point,  he has been mostly unable to take the field the last 2 years,  I am saying I would sit on the sidelines for millions.  He is a hell of a talent when healthy,  but that has not been the norm since he became a full time player.   you lock him up to the money he wants,  and his injury track continues,  his contract will hurt far more than anything we have seen from Cousins,  because Kirks 2nd biggest attribute is his availability.  I will take my 25 million a year and use it on players that actually play,  unless he wants to do a more bonus based deal.

@"HappyViking" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"HappyViking" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"HappyViking" said:

Yep, we have a tier 2 QB we pay tier 1 money, then we get rid of a tier 1 DE we have no replacement for?  Why did they bother to fire Spielman?  Like the other post said: 

Hunter will be easy to replace,  hell I will be happy to sit on the sidelines every sunday for much less than hunter has made the last few years.  If the front office isnt convinced,  with all the medical information at their disposal,  that he is to much of a risk to extend a top dollar deal to,  then we should be happy that they arent just taking the easy route.  We are where we are now as a team/roster because of a front office that took the easy route.

In the seven games Danielle played in he still finished second on the team in sacks with six.  Wonnum led the team in sacks last season with 8 but he also played in all 17 games. I don't agree All Pro talent is easily replaced.  If Danielle just wants out, then the Vikings can't do much with him.  But, if there's a way of keeping our best defensive player, I'd love to see him stay.  Our D sucked last year, and I can't see how having less talent on the roster next season will improve things.

you missed my point,  he has been mostly unable to take the field the last 2 years,  I am saying I would sit on the sidelines for millions.  He is a hell of a talent when healthy,  but that has not been the norm since he became a full time player.   you lock him up to the money he wants,  and his injury track continues,  his contract will hurt far more than anything we have seen from Cousins,  because Kirks 2nd biggest attribute is his availability.  I will take my 25 million a year and use it on players that actually play,  unless he wants to do a more bonus based deal.

Well, there will be injuries to several Viking players next season that will cause them to miss games.  So maybe none of them deserve to stay with the team?  B) I think DH had a couple unfortunate, unrelated injuries.  To me he's too young and talented to give up on. 

I don't think you should punish Hunter for being injured in the past as if he's injury prone, but I think it's fair to question whether his pec will be sufficiently recovered such that he'll be able to play at 100% all year or if it's likely that he'll be at 80% all year.

They won't get what he's worth in compensation. 

@"medaille" said: I don't think you should punish Hunter for being injured in the past as if he's injury prone, but I think it's fair to question whether his pec will be sufficiently recovered such that he'll be able to play at 100% all year or if it's likely that he'll be at 80% all year.

What I think happens is as the deadline approaches, teams will put in their best offers and the Vikings will take the best one. But I have a feeling it's going to be low. Like a 2nd and a 4th.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"medaille" said: I don't think you should punish Hunter for being injured in the past as if he's injury prone, but I think it's fair to question whether his pec will be sufficiently recovered such that he'll be able to play at 100% all year or if it's likely that he'll be at 80% all year.

Those are the questions being asked by every team who might trade for him. And why we won't get full value. My hope is that the Vikings love him in the 3-4 and work out a long term deal for him, but that sounds like fantasy right now.

What I think happens is as the deadline approaches, teams will put in their best offers and the Vikings will take the best one. But I have a feeling it's going to be low. Like a 2nd and a 4th.

@"PurplePastor" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"medaille" said: I don't think you should punish Hunter for being injured in the past as if he's injury prone, but I think it's fair to question whether his pec will be sufficiently recovered such that he'll be able to play at 100% all year or if it's likely that he'll be at 80% all year.

Those are the questions being asked by every team who might trade for him. And why we won't get full value. My hope is that the Vikings love him in the 3-4 and work out a long term deal for him, but that sounds like fantasy right now.

What I think happens is as the deadline approaches, teams will put in their best offers and the Vikings will take the best one. But I have a feeling it's going to be low. Like a 2nd and a 4th.

It might actually be lower compensation than that given (as I understand it) the Vikes can't afford his cap hit on Sunday and would be forced to drop him. Teams know at that point that getting something is better than getting nothing.

@"PurplePastor" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"medaille" said: I don't think you should punish Hunter for being injured in the past as if he's injury prone, but I think it's fair to question whether his pec will be sufficiently recovered such that he'll be able to play at 100% all year or if it's likely that he'll be at 80% all year.

Those are the questions being asked by every team who might trade for him. And why we won't get full value. My hope is that the Vikings love him in the 3-4 and work out a long term deal for him, but that sounds like fantasy right now.

What I think happens is as the deadline approaches, teams will put in their best offers and the Vikings will take the best one. But I have a feeling it's going to be low. Like a 2nd and a 4th.

It might actually be lower compensation than that given (as I understand it) the Vikes can't afford his cap hit on Sunday and would be forced to drop him. Teams know at that point that getting something is better than getting nothing.

Have we heard of any takers for Hunter yet?

@"ArizonaViking" said: Have we heard of any takers for Hunter yet?

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"PurplePastor" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"medaille" said: I don't think you should punish Hunter for being injured in the past as if he's injury prone, but I think it's fair to question whether his pec will be sufficiently recovered such that he'll be able to play at 100% all year or if it's likely that he'll be at 80% all year.

Those are the questions being asked by every team who might trade for him. And why we won't get full value. My hope is that the Vikings love him in the 3-4 and work out a long term deal for him, but that sounds like fantasy right now.

What I think happens is as the deadline approaches, teams will put in their best offers and the Vikings will take the best one. But I have a feeling it's going to be low. Like a 2nd and a 4th.

It might actually be lower compensation than that given (as I understand it) the Vikes can't afford his cap hit on Sunday and would be forced to drop him. Teams know at that point that getting something is better than getting nothing.

Releasing him would be worst case, but I agree that this is also a possibility. 

@"JustinTime18™" said:

@"ArizonaViking" said: Have we heard of any takers for Hunter yet?

Not a peep on Twitter.

@"Vikeking2" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said:

@"ArizonaViking" said: Have we heard of any takers for Hunter yet?

Not a peep on Twitter.

also the “shopping” story was only mentioned by Ben Goesseling and PFT referenced his story. no other national media guy has mentioned the “shopping” as far as Ive seen . i find that interesting.