Giving up on the #1 overall pick in a Draft?

Wait. Drafting a QB #1 overall didn't solve all of the Browns issues?

GTFO.

History of #1 overall....

Trevor, Burrow, Murray, Baker, Goff, Winston, Luck, Cam, Bradford, Stafford, Jamarcus, Alex Smith....all players 37 or younger and so should still be playing. 

@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/ByKimberleyA/status/1504062182748794881

Same old adage applies to politicians too

Even if the #Browns don't get Deshaun Watson, the message is out to Baker Mayfield that he's a lame duck QB.

Giants didn't do it to Daniel Jones. Eagles didn't do it to Jalen Hurts. Browns did it with Baker.

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) March 16, 2022

Baker and Matt Ryan might be the next QB moves. Getcha popcorn ready.

@"JustinTime18™" said: Baker and Matt Ryan might be the next QB moves. Getcha popcorn ready.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/03/16/cleveland-browns-baker-mayfield-point-of-no-return

Pretty stupid move by the Browns if they don’t already have something in place with Watson. 
Personally, I’d have been really quiet of the Watson front. Mayfield had a rough year, but he had a torn up shoulder and was sacked a ton. Sometimes seasons go like that. In 2020 he had a really nice year.

Not saying he’s going to be like him, but this feels like when Drew Brees wasn’t good enough. 

@"JustinTime18™" said: Wait. Drafting a QB #1 overall didn't solve all of the Browns issues?

GTFO.

Some Irony if the Browns pursue Watson:

"The Texans traded up to select Watson with the Browns #12 pick in the 2017 draft.  The Browns got Texans 1st round pick for 2018, which ended up being #1 and selected Mayfield:
"The Texans traded up in the draft to select Clemson’s Deshaun Watson with pick No. 12.
Houston dealt with the Browns to select Watson as their next franchise quarterback, after dealing Brock Osweiler to Cleveland earlier this year.
The Browns acquired pick No. 25 (selected Jabrill Peppers) and Houston’s 2018 first-rounder in the deal (ended up being #1 Mayfield). 

@"minny65" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said: Wait. Drafting a QB #1 overall didn't solve all of the Browns issues?

GTFO.

So instead, they "might" try and get the 12th pick of the 2017 draft - Watson.  Supposedly we dabbled with some interest and a ton of teams with and without a QB are/should be interested in Watson.  He would be an upgrade for about 25+ teams.  

Some Irony if the Browns pursue Watson:

"The Texans traded up to select Watson with the Browns #12 pick in the 2017 draft.  The Browns got Texans 1st round pick for 2018, which ended up being #1 and selected Mayfield:
"The Texans traded up in the draft to select Clemson’s Deshaun Watson with pick No. 12.
Houston dealt with the Browns to select Watson as their next franchise quarterback, after dealing Brock Osweiler to Cleveland earlier this year.
The Browns acquired pick No. 25 (selected Jabrill Peppers) and Houston’s 2018 first-rounder in the deal (ended up being #1 Mayfield). 

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said: Wait. Drafting a QB #1 overall didn't solve all of the Browns issues?

GTFO.

So instead, they "might" try and get the 12th pick of the 2017 draft - Watson.  Supposedly we dabbled with some interest and a ton of teams with and without a QB are/should be interested in Watson.  He would be an upgrade for about 25+ teams.  

Some Irony if the Browns pursue Watson:

"The Texans traded up to select Watson with the Browns #12 pick in the 2017 draft.  The Browns got Texans 1st round pick for 2018, which ended up being #1 and selected Mayfield:
"The Texans traded up in the draft to select Clemson’s Deshaun Watson with pick No. 12.
Houston dealt with the Browns to select Watson as their next franchise quarterback, after dealing Brock Osweiler to Cleveland earlier this year.
The Browns acquired pick No. 25 (selected Jabrill Peppers) and Houston’s 2018 first-rounder in the deal (ended up being #1 Mayfield). 

Be careful about saying he's an upgrade for that many teams as his career record is only 28-25, and 1-2 in the playoffs. As we know, this board uses record as it's main determining factor for QB's

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said: Wait. Drafting a QB #1 overall didn't solve all of the Browns issues?

GTFO.

So instead, they "might" try and get the 12th pick of the 2017 draft - Watson.  Supposedly we dabbled with some interest and a ton of teams with and without a QB are/should be interested in Watson.  He would be an upgrade for about 25+ teams.  

Some Irony if the Browns pursue Watson:

"The Texans traded up to select Watson with the Browns #12 pick in the 2017 draft.  The Browns got Texans 1st round pick for 2018, which ended up being #1 and selected Mayfield:
"The Texans traded up in the draft to select Clemson’s Deshaun Watson with pick No. 12.
Houston dealt with the Browns to select Watson as their next franchise quarterback, after dealing Brock Osweiler to Cleveland earlier this year.
The Browns acquired pick No. 25 (selected Jabrill Peppers) and Houston’s 2018 first-rounder in the deal (ended up being #1 Mayfield). 

Be careful about saying he's an upgrade for that many teams as his career record is only 28-25, and 1-2 in the playoffs. As we know, this board uses record as it's main determining factor for QB's

@"Norse" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said: Wait. Drafting a QB #1 overall didn't solve all of the Browns issues?

GTFO.

So instead, they "might" try and get the 12th pick of the 2017 draft - Watson.  Supposedly we dabbled with some interest and a ton of teams with and without a QB are/should be interested in Watson.  He would be an upgrade for about 25+ teams.  

Some Irony if the Browns pursue Watson:

"The Texans traded up to select Watson with the Browns #12 pick in the 2017 draft.  The Browns got Texans 1st round pick for 2018, which ended up being #1 and selected Mayfield:
"The Texans traded up in the draft to select Clemson’s Deshaun Watson with pick No. 12.
Houston dealt with the Browns to select Watson as their next franchise quarterback, after dealing Brock Osweiler to Cleveland earlier this year.
The Browns acquired pick No. 25 (selected Jabrill Peppers) and Houston’s 2018 first-rounder in the deal (ended up being #1 Mayfield). 

Be careful about saying he's an upgrade for that many teams as his career record is only 28-25, and 1-2 in the playoffs. As we know, this board uses record as it's main determining factor for QB's

I would say 10 years and 59-59-2 is a pretty fair assessment. 

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"Norse" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said: Wait. Drafting a QB #1 overall didn't solve all of the Browns issues?

GTFO.

So instead, they "might" try and get the 12th pick of the 2017 draft - Watson.  Supposedly we dabbled with some interest and a ton of teams with and without a QB are/should be interested in Watson.  He would be an upgrade for about 25+ teams.  

Some Irony if the Browns pursue Watson:

"The Texans traded up to select Watson with the Browns #12 pick in the 2017 draft.  The Browns got Texans 1st round pick for 2018, which ended up being #1 and selected Mayfield:
"The Texans traded up in the draft to select Clemson’s Deshaun Watson with pick No. 12.
Houston dealt with the Browns to select Watson as their next franchise quarterback, after dealing Brock Osweiler to Cleveland earlier this year.
The Browns acquired pick No. 25 (selected Jabrill Peppers) and Houston’s 2018 first-rounder in the deal (ended up being #1 Mayfield). 

Be careful about saying he's an upgrade for that many teams as his career record is only 28-25, and 1-2 in the playoffs. As we know, this board uses record as it's main determining factor for QB's

I would say 10 years and 59-59-2 is a pretty fair assessment. 

Using record to evaluate any player in the NFL, regardless of position, never creates a fair assessment. Team Game.

Fran Tarkenton went 56-73-4 during the first 10 years of his career. Finished with a 124-109-6 record. What was the difference? Much better TEAMS. Team Game.

To be honest, I thought when he went #1 overall that it was a huge wtf moment, not overly surprised myself…

@"JustinTime18™" said:

Will Brinson

@WillBrinson

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Interesting note from

@mortreport on ESPN just now while talking Baker/Browns ("they're breaking up regardless" of Watson) -- they "want an adult at" QB.

"Jimmy Garoppolo is one I would not ignore for Cleveland."

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said:

Will Brinson

@WillBrinson

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Interesting note from

@mortreport on ESPN just now while talking Baker/Browns ("they're breaking up regardless" of Watson) -- they "want an adult at" QB.

"Jimmy Garoppolo is one I would not ignore for Cleveland."

not that Baker is a proven winner,  but can anybody remind me again how many firsts they spent on QBs in the last 20 years and how many playoffs games they went to in that time prior to Mayfield?   seems to me that they are kinda playing with fire over there.

@"JustinTime18™" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said:

Will Brinson

@WillBrinson

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Interesting note from

@mortreport on ESPN just now while talking Baker/Browns ("they're breaking up regardless" of Watson) -- they "want an adult at" QB.

"Jimmy Garoppolo is one I would not ignore for Cleveland."

not that Baker is a proven winner,  but can anybody remind me again how many firsts they spent on QBs in the last 20 years and how many playoffs games they went to in that time prior to Mayfield?   seems to me that they are kinda playing with fire over there.

 Manziel
WeedenQuinn

To name a vomit inducing few.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said:

Will Brinson

@WillBrinson

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Interesting note from

@mortreport on ESPN just now while talking Baker/Browns ("they're breaking up regardless" of Watson) -- they "want an adult at" QB.

"Jimmy Garoppolo is one I would not ignore for Cleveland."

not that Baker is a proven winner,  but can anybody remind me again how many firsts they spent on QBs in the last 20 years and how many playoffs games they went to in that time prior to Mayfield?   seems to me that they are kinda playing with fire over there.