Some draft talk...

@"purplefaithful" said: Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa

The Vikings have invested a ton of premier draft capital in their offensive line in recent years, and they've got three foundational pieces up front in RT Brian O'Neill, LG Ezra Cleveland, and LT Christian Darrisaw as a result. But your O-line is only as good as its weakest link, and Minnesota's center and right guard spots still need to be addressed. 2019 first-rounder Garrett Bradbury has been a major bust at center, as his athleticism in the run game doesn't make up for a complete inability to anchor in pass protection. Taking Linderbaum in the first round would likely be polarizing among Vikings fans because he comes with the same risks. On the one hand, he's a truly elite, well-rounded center prospect who has the potential to be a Pro Bowl-caliber player right away. Linderbaum's athleticism, footwork, and balance are incredible, and he's got a powerful upper body. But on the other hand, people said similar things about Bradbury. Linderbaum is a bit undersized and the positional value of centers might not be great enough to justify drafting one this high. Mock: Thor Nystrom, NBC Sports Edge

@"Waterboy" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa

The Vikings have invested a ton of premier draft capital in their offensive line in recent years, and they've got three foundational pieces up front in RT Brian O'Neill, LG Ezra Cleveland, and LT Christian Darrisaw as a result. But your O-line is only as good as its weakest link, and Minnesota's center and right guard spots still need to be addressed. 2019 first-rounder Garrett Bradbury has been a major bust at center, as his athleticism in the run game doesn't make up for a complete inability to anchor in pass protection. Taking Linderbaum in the first round would likely be polarizing among Vikings fans because he comes with the same risks. On the one hand, he's a truly elite, well-rounded center prospect who has the potential to be a Pro Bowl-caliber player right away. Linderbaum's athleticism, footwork, and balance are incredible, and he's got a powerful upper body. But on the other hand, people said similar things about Bradbury. Linderbaum is a bit undersized and the positional value of centers might not be great enough to justify drafting one this high. Mock: Thor Nystrom, NBC Sports Edge

Linderbaum is NOT Bradbury.  LOL   As close to a sure thing in this draft as they come.

Meathead Tice had his issues, but he was right about drafting, take the big guy. 

Otherwise BPA regardless of position. 

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa

The Vikings have invested a ton of premier draft capital in their offensive line in recent years, and they've got three foundational pieces up front in RT Brian O'Neill, LG Ezra Cleveland, and LT Christian Darrisaw as a result. But your O-line is only as good as its weakest link, and Minnesota's center and right guard spots still need to be addressed. 2019 first-rounder Garrett Bradbury has been a major bust at center, as his athleticism in the run game doesn't make up for a complete inability to anchor in pass protection. Taking Linderbaum in the first round would likely be polarizing among Vikings fans because he comes with the same risks. On the one hand, he's a truly elite, well-rounded center prospect who has the potential to be a Pro Bowl-caliber player right away. Linderbaum's athleticism, footwork, and balance are incredible, and he's got a powerful upper body. But on the other hand, people said similar things about Bradbury. Linderbaum is a bit undersized and the positional value of centers might not be great enough to justify drafting one this high. Mock: Thor Nystrom, NBC Sports Edge

Linderbaum is NOT Bradbury.  LOL   As close to a sure thing in this draft as they come.

The obvious concern with Linerbaum is his size/weight. He's very similar to Jeff Saturday, but I think Tyler could add on another 10 pounds. He sure has been fun to watch for Iowa the last couple of years though...

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said: Stingley scares the scrap out of me.

Davis is just a two down guy, but in a 3-4 he's pretty valuable.

Linderbaum would have me at Best Buy the following day.

Wilson would be a luxury pick depending on what we do in FA.

Stingley scares me too, but he's such a homerun swing. The medical at the combine will probably end up writing the story. When he is "on" and playing up to his ability you could make a pretty good argument he is the best CB prospect since Jalen Ramsey. He'd be easy #1 pick if he had kept up his pace from 2019. 

If Stingley and Sauce are there at 12, you take Stingley

If Sauce is the best CB left at 12, you take Sauce

If neither are available, BPA for the trenches so DE or C

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said: Stingley scares the scrap out of me.

Davis is just a two down guy, but in a 3-4 he's pretty valuable.

Linderbaum would have me at Best Buy the following day.

Wilson would be a luxury pick depending on what we do in FA.

Stingley scares me too, but he's such a homerun swing. The medical at the combine will probably end up writing the story. When he is "on" and playing up to his ability you could make a pretty good argument he is the best CB prospect since Jalen Ramsey. He'd be easy #1 pick if he had kept up his pace from 2019. 

@"Bullazin" said: Meathead Tice had his issues, but he was right about drafting, take the big guy. 

Otherwise BPA regardless of position. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Bullazin" said: Meathead Tice had his issues, but he was right about drafting, take the big guy. 

Otherwise BPA regardless of position. 

I like the take the big guy approach myself,  but for me... I want that fricking stud DL.  I am admittedly not up on college ball or film like I used to be,  but if there is a big nasty DT in this draft,  one of the new breed that can eat a double team consistently in run coverage,   but still have the athleticism to kill it against singles and doubles in pass rush... please find that guy... I know  I am not asking for much,  but that 1 player is the key IMO to a top level D..... o fuck,  nevermind, forgot we are likely going to a 3-4,  better focus on O line so we can just outscore the other team.  :p

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Bullazin" said: Meathead Tice had his issues, but he was right about drafting, take the big guy. 

Otherwise BPA regardless of position. 

I like the take the big guy approach myself,  but for me... I want that fricking stud DL.  I am admittedly not up on college ball or film like I used to be,  but if there is a big nasty DT in this draft,  one of the new breed that can eat a double team consistently in run coverage,   but still have the athleticism to kill it against singles and doubles in pass rush... please find that guy... I know  I am not asking for much,  but that 1 player is the key IMO to a top level D..... o fuck,  nevermind, forgot we are likely going to a 3-4,  better focus on O line so we can just outscore the other team.  :p

I watched plenty of the big guy @ Georgia cause I just luv me some SEC...

I would argue we need a DE or CB before a big asz 2 down, 1 gapper. 

But I love the big guy and if we go 3/4? He'd be a stalwart for some time. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Bullazin" said: Meathead Tice had his issues, but he was right about drafting, take the big guy. 

Otherwise BPA regardless of position. 

I like the take the big guy approach myself,  but for me... I want that fricking stud DL.  I am admittedly not up on college ball or film like I used to be,  but if there is a big nasty DT in this draft,  one of the new breed that can eat a double team consistently in run coverage,   but still have the athleticism to kill it against singles and doubles in pass rush... please find that guy... I know  I am not asking for much,  but that 1 player is the key IMO to a top level D..... o fuck,  nevermind, forgot we are likely going to a 3-4,  better focus on O line so we can just outscore the other team.  :p

Linderbaum:  I like him but 31 other teams seem to be able to find centers outside the first round, let alone at 12.

Stingley always seems to have a stinger.

Davis is intriguing, but can he be on the field 3 downs?  For #12 you'd better. 

My almost-completely-uneducated preference would be 
1. Gardner
2. Karlaftis 
3. Ojabo
4. Linderbaum
5. Davis

Stingley I don't think drops to us. WR isn't close to a 1st round need.  McDuffie and Booth seem like reaching for position over talent, as does the edge Johnson.  Hopefully someone ahead of us panics for a QB and takes Malik Willis to shove the rest of the talent one slot closer to us. 

I've seen a couple where McDuffie is gone before our pick.

And, I'll guess McDuffie is high on O'Connell's wish list.

I usually agree with Tice's "get a big guy" philosophy, but this year the pick is obvious IMO. Gotta be a corner.

1. No question CB is a premium position worthy of a top 12 pick. 2. Looks like a good year for corners where we're picking. 3. It's by far our biggest need. In fact, depending on what we do in free agency, our 2nd pick might be a corner too. 

@"MaroonBells" said: I usually agree with Tice's "get a big guy" philosophy, but this year the pick is obvious IMO. Gotta be a corner.

1. No question CB is a premium position worthy of a top 12 pick. 2. Looks like a good year for corners where we're picking. 3. It's by far our biggest need. In fact, depending on what we do in free agency, our 2nd pick might be a corner too. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: I usually agree with Tice's "get a big guy" philosophy, but this year the pick is obvious IMO. Gotta be a corner.

1. No question CB is a premium position worthy of a top 12 pick. 2. Looks like a good year for corners where we're picking. 3. It's by far our biggest need. In fact, depending on what we do in free agency, our 2nd pick might be a corner too. 

With the depth at corner would it be smarter to trade down 8 to 10 spots to add another day 2 pick and still be able to add a quality corner most likely?  Or will all the top CBs be gone by then?  Is it worth the risk?

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: I usually agree with Tice's "get a big guy" philosophy, but this year the pick is obvious IMO. Gotta be a corner.

1. No question CB is a premium position worthy of a top 12 pick. 2. Looks like a good year for corners where we're picking. 3. It's by far our biggest need. In fact, depending on what we do in free agency, our 2nd pick might be a corner too. 

With the depth at corner would it be smarter to trade down 8 to 10 spots to add another day 2 pick and still be able to add a quality corner most likely?  Or will all the top CBs be gone by then?  Is it worth the risk?

@"JustinTime18™" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: I usually agree with Tice's "get a big guy" philosophy, but this year the pick is obvious IMO. Gotta be a corner.

1. No question CB is a premium position worthy of a top 12 pick. 2. Looks like a good year for corners where we're picking. 3. It's by far our biggest need. In fact, depending on what we do in free agency, our 2nd pick might be a corner too. 

With the depth at corner would it be smarter to trade down 8 to 10 spots to add another day 2 pick and still be able to add a quality corner most likely?  Or will all the top CBs be gone by then?  Is it worth the risk?

There's 5 CBs I'd take in round 1. There's another 2 worthy of our 2nd. After that, it falls off.

I've been on Sauce for the past 2+ months.  He probably won't run an elite 40, but then again, neither did Jefferson. If he's there, you take him. When you come out of a game with Bama with 2 targets, 1 catch, for -2 yards, you take him, give him the #1 purple jersey, and sit back for the next 8-10 years and don't worry about the position.

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: I usually agree with Tice's "get a big guy" philosophy, but this year the pick is obvious IMO. Gotta be a corner.

1. No question CB is a premium position worthy of a top 12 pick. 2. Looks like a good year for corners where we're picking. 3. It's by far our biggest need. In fact, depending on what we do in free agency, our 2nd pick might be a corner too. 

With the depth at corner would it be smarter to trade down 8 to 10 spots to add another day 2 pick and still be able to add a quality corner most likely?  Or will all the top CBs be gone by then?  Is it worth the risk?

There's 5 CBs I'd take in round 1. There's another 2 worthy of our 2nd. After that, it falls off.

I've been on Sauce for the past 2+ months.  He probably won't run an elite 40, but then again, neither did Jefferson. If he's there, you take him. When you come out of a game with Bama with 2 targets, 1 catch, for -2 yards, you take him, give him the #1 purple jersey, and sit back for the next 8-10 years and don't worry about the position.

I agree there are certain players who are MEH testing but everything they do on the field suggests they're going to be phenomenal in the NFL. Sauce would even be better in Fangio's defense considering how much they'd play him in zone. 

@"MaroonBells" said: I usually agree with Tice's "get a big guy" philosophy, but this year the pick is obvious IMO. Gotta be a corner.

1. No question CB is a premium position worthy of a top 12 pick. 2. Looks like a good year for corners where we're picking. 3. It's by far our biggest need. In fact, depending on what we do in free agency, our 2nd pick might be a corner too. 

Still so hard to fathom after eight years of Zimmer and countless high draft picks invested in the position, that cornerback is STILL our biggest need. I'd say it's the definite odds on favorite to be the pick but with a total shift in acheme we could go anywhere on defense