Cousins Ready To Play Ball?

Last 3 years have been off-the charts good...With a bad ol aNd the Vikings D hasn't been good since 17.

@"purplefaithful" said:

Year	Team	CMP%	YDS	TD	INT	Rating
2021	Vikings	66.3	4,221	33	7	103.1
2020	Vikings	67.6	4,265	35	13	105.0
2019	Vikings	69.1	3,603	26	6	107.4
2018	Vikings	70.1	4,298	30	10	99.7
2017	Commanders	64.3	4,093	27	13	93.9
2016	Commanders	67.0	4,917	25	12	97.2
2015	Commanders	69.8	4,166	29	11	101.6
2014	Commanders	61.8	1,710	10	9	86.4
2013	Commanders	52.3	854	4	7	58.4
2012	Commanders	68.8	466	4	3	101.6
Career		66.9

Last 3 years have been off-the charts good...With a bad ol aNd the Vikings D hasn't been good since 17.

Because football people know that Cousins is good. They don’t listen to social media. https://t.co/3IvzAERjU5

— Ben Leber (@nacholeber) February 7, 2022

@"purplefaithful" said:

Year	Team	CMP%	YDS	TD	INT	Rating
2021	Vikings	66.3	4,221	33	7	103.1
2020	Vikings	67.6	4,265	35	13	105.0
2019	Vikings	69.1	3,603	26	6	107.4
2018	Vikings	70.1	4,298	30	10	99.7

Last 3 years have been off-the charts good...With a bad ol aNd the Vikings D hasn't been good since 17.

@"Skodin" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

Year	Team	CMP%	YDS	TD	INT	Rating
2021	Vikings	66.3	4,221	33	7	103.1
2020	Vikings	67.6	4,265	35	13	105.0
2019	Vikings	69.1	3,603	26	6	107.4
2018	Vikings	70.1	4,298	30	10	99.7

Last 3 years have been off-the charts good...With a bad ol aNd the Vikings D hasn't been good since 17.

Except his first two years here when the D was 9th (18) and 5th overall (19).

Cousins stats do not tell the whole picture here.  

Rip the band aid off, make a deal at his highest value and move on to a guy who hasn't shell'd in our biggest games

I keep telling you, put a check down option in KC’s contract, you know he’ll take it now don’t ya…  ;) B) :p  

@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/nacholeber/status/1490766546460938243

@"JR44" said:

@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/nacholeber/status/1490766546460938243

It wouldn't be the first time an organization put out specific information to help hype the trade value of a player.  Similar to right before the draft, it is difficult to know which reports have any kind of validity.  

@"JustinTime18™" said:

Jeremy Fowler

@JFowlerESPN

· 14m

Soon-to-be Vikings HC Kevin O'Connell conveyed a firm belief in Kirk Cousins during the interview process, I'm told. He's high on him. The front office must decide on Cousins' future due to his $45M cap hit, but many coaches interviewing for job liked Cousins, O'Connell included

Did anyone, I mean anyone, expect any other "quotes" from either of them that wasn't kumbaya? 

@"minny65" said:

@"JustinTime18™" said:

Jeremy Fowler

@JFowlerESPN

· 14m

Soon-to-be Vikings HC Kevin O'Connell conveyed a firm belief in Kirk Cousins during the interview process, I'm told. He's high on him. The front office must decide on Cousins' future due to his $45M cap hit, but many coaches interviewing for job liked Cousins, O'Connell included

Yea, I expected all the candidates to come to the interview prepared to call the 45million baby ugly :)

Did anyone, I mean anyone, expect any other "quotes" from either of them that wasn't kumbaya? 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"JR44" said:

@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/nacholeber/status/1490766546460938243

It wouldn't be the first time an organization put out specific information to help hype the trade value of a player.  Similar to right before the draft, it is difficult to know which reports have any kind of validity.  

Truth...

But Fowler and nacholeber are not part of the Vikings and Ben tells it like he thinks, he's been plenty critical of the vikings in the past. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"JR44" said:

@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/nacholeber/status/1490766546460938243

It wouldn't be the first time an organization put out specific information to help hype the trade value of a player.  Similar to right before the draft, it is difficult to know which reports have any kind of validity.  

Truth...

But Fowler and nacholeber are not part of the Vikings and Ben tells it like he thinks, he's been plenty critical of the vikings in the past. 

Doesn't Leber have a radio gig with the Vikings broadcast team from KFan?  He may not be directly employed, but we know they talk. 

@"Norse" said:

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"Norse" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: I just don't see a way the Vikings can trade Cousins and avoid a rebuild, which the Wilfs have clearly stated they do not want. I'm open to trading him; I just don't see a solution that allows them to remain in the hunt for the division title. 

Bradford went down. A backup QB come in and took the team to 13-3. It can be done with a lesser QB. just good coaching.

And the #1 scoring defense....which we clearly don't have

And we havent been to the playoffs in 3 years.

I'm just going to leave this right here...

Kirk Cousins is a franchise QB and I have yet to see a rational argument otherwise. I’ve said it over and over, if you can’t win with Kirk Cousins as your QB you shouldn’t be the head coach of the team. He’s literally the least of our problems. 
Ben’s right, HC candidates all loved Cousins because he’s a good freaking QB. He’s incredible against the rush and constantly puts the team in position to win. Besides the one game he didn’t play, every other loss was by 8 points or less. If you improve our defense, it will make a huge difference in wins. We are not nearly as far from the playoffs as people believe.

Wanting to blow everything up by getting rid of Cousins is insane/irrational. It is not supported by a remotely sound argument. 
This is a very good draft for edge rushers and cornerbacks. Two big areas of need for us. We’ll likely have an instant starter waiting for us at our first pick. Possibly our second pick as well. For a year where we need to improve the defense, we are getting really lucky in terms of this drafts strengths. 
As for Cousin’s, I’d do a 4 or 5 year contract in more the traditional sense. Spreading it out, his cap number will be very manageable. We will have some horsepower to make this defense better. Cousins probably has a good 7 years left if he continues to be so ridiculously durable. He’s far from being done and I have no clue why people think he has a only few years left. There’s literally nothing to substantiate that. 

@"JR44" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: I just don't see a way the Vikings can trade Cousins and avoid a rebuild, which the Wilfs have clearly stated they do not want. I'm open to trading him; I just don't see a solution that allows them to remain in the hunt for the division title. 

We haven't been close to winning a division title in the 4 years he has been here and we have 1 playoff appearance, I don't see how that is going to change, so I would rather rebuild than be stuck in another 4 years of mediocrity.  

@"Zanary" said:

@"JR44" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: I just don't see a way the Vikings can trade Cousins and avoid a rebuild, which the Wilfs have clearly stated they do not want. I'm open to trading him; I just don't see a solution that allows them to remain in the hunt for the division title. 

We haven't been close to winning a division title in the 4 years he has been here and we have 1 playoff appearance, I don't see how that is going to change, so I would rather rebuild than be stuck in another 4 years of mediocrity.  

We didn't have a HC that really ran an offense well in the 4 years that Kirk's been here, and Kirk's had a line with glaring problems the whole time...oh, yeah, and half of that time, the defense was 1-2 positions from dead last...and that was after years of kickers that couldn't hit FGs/XPs.

Remember any of that?  Maybe, just maybe, the QB that actually got us a lot of points DESPITE those issues wasn't the problem.

@"Zanary" said: We didn't have a HC that really ran an offense well in the 4 years that Kirk's been here, and Kirk's had a line with glaring problems the whole time...oh, yeah, and half of that time, the defense was 1-2 positions from dead last...and that was after years of kickers that couldn't hit FGs/XPs.

Remember any of that?  Maybe, just maybe, the QB that actually got us a lot of points DESPITE those issues wasn't the problem.

@"Havoc1649" said: Kirk Cousins is a franchise QB and I have yet to see a rational argument otherwise. I’ve said it over and over, if you can’t win with Kirk Cousins as your QB you shouldn’t be the head coach of the team. He’s literally the least of our problems. 

Ben’s right, HC candidates all loved Cousins because he’s a good freaking QB. He’s incredible against the rush and constantly puts the team in position to win. Besides the one game he didn’t play, every other loss was by 8 points or less. If you improve our defense, it will make a huge difference in wins. We are not nearly as far from the playoffs as people believe.

Wanting to blow everything up by getting rid of Cousins is insane/irrational. It is not supported by a remotely sound argument. 
This is a very good draft for edge rushers and cornerbacks. Two big areas of need for us. We’ll likely have an instant starter waiting for us at our first pick. Possibly our second pick as well. For a year where we need to improve the defense, we are getting really lucky in terms of this drafts strengths. 
As for Cousin’s, I’d do a 4 or 5 year contract in more the traditional sense. Spreading it out, his cap number will be very manageable. We will have some horsepower to make this defense better. Cousins probably has a good 7 years left if he continues to be so ridiculously durable. He’s far from being done and I have no clue why people think he has a only few years left. There’s literally nothing to substantiate that. 

you can win with a guy of his skills,  and lack of skills,  but you cant win with that combination at a high cap hit which affects your ability to build out the team around him to be able to overcome those missing skills/traits.  He can say all he wants about "wanting to be here" or "wanting to work with KOC"  but money talks and bull shit walks and he has to show more than bull shit when it comes to these negotiations or its in the best interest of the team to send him walking.

@"JR44" said:

@"Zanary" said: We didn't have a HC that really ran an offense well in the 4 years that Kirk's been here, and Kirk's had a line with glaring problems the whole time...oh, yeah, and half of that time, the defense was 1-2 positions from dead last...and that was after years of kickers that couldn't hit FGs/XPs.

Remember any of that?  Maybe, just maybe, the QB that actually got us a lot of points DESPITE those issues wasn't the problem.

Got it, nothing was Kirk's fault :) All of the times he looked like a deer in headlights in a big game was because he didn't have a supportive coach and no one else on the team was any good.  Also having the best RB and WR tandem in the league actually was prohibitive to his success in some way as well :)