BREAKING: Down to 2 for Viking's GM job?
The #Vikings are requesting second interviews with #Chiefs executive director of player personnel Ryan Poles and #Browns VP of Football Operations Kwesi Adofo-Mensah for their GM job, per sources. As of now, those are the two finalists.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 21, 2022
Between those 2, I lean toward Poles. Just like that he's come up through the football side (specifically scouting). Might keep us from any more of those 1st-round faceplants (Ponder, Kalil, Treadwell, Hughes, Bradbury...).
@"RS Express" said: Between those 2, I lean toward Poles. Just like that he's come up through the football side (specifically scouting). Might keep us from any more of those 1st-round faceplants (Ponder, Kalil, Treadwell, Hughes, Bradbury...).The game is football....hire the football guy....not the stock market one.
Im not sure I understand the “analytics” argument....... how do you measure heart, work ethic, determination, moxie, motor, and desire on some of these 22 year old kids from college? DI against DII prospects ?
Anyone care to look at Johnny Randle’s “analytics” or Thielen’s out of college?
versus say any of the “busts” that were highly scouted, touted and drafted?
@"Vanguard83" said: Im not sure I understand the “analytics” argument....... how do you measure heart, work ethic, determination, moxie, motor, and desire on some of these 22 year old kids from college? DI against DII prospects ?Anyone care to look at Johnny Randle’s “analytics” or Thielen’s out of college?
versus say any of the “busts” that were highly scouted, touted and drafted?
Vanguard, you're hired...
https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-gm-finalists-browns-kwesi-adofo-mensah-chiefs-ryan-poles-interview-again
Poles would give me more peace of mind for obvious reasons...
The Wilfs are just crazy enough to put a Mensah in @ GM too.
Either way? The Vikings and Eagan are going to be vastly different places soon.
@"Mighty mouse" said:Yes, this is where I am at as well. I will add that this is not a Silicon Valley tech company hire where you play two-hand touch on your lunch break. This is not the crazy wild let's take a wild chance on someone at the GM position IMO. That is executive level range, and you don't take chances on someone who doesn't bring everything to the table. I strongly think that the wilfs/Vikes will go with a Poles-type over the 33 year olds. Those people are all very bright and driven of course but here is the thing "they don't know what they don't know". You can't prepare someone and go through years of on-the-job training at the GM level.@"RS Express" said: Between those 2, I lean toward Poles. Just like that he's come up through the football side (specifically scouting). Might keep us from any more of those 1st-round faceplants (Ponder, Kalil, Treadwell, Hughes, Bradbury...). The game is football....hire the football guy....not the stock market one.Maybe you take a chance at the HC level but not at GM - IMO.
@"purplefaithful" said: Poles would give me more peace of mind for obvious reasons...The Wilfs are just crazy enough to put a Mensah in @ GM too.
Either way? The Vikings and Eagan are going to be vastly different places soon.
Guys like Mensah will become more prevalent in organizations, but right now not as GMs. They will doing exactly what he is doing in Cleveland. Guys with scouting backgrounds and have played football (college for Poles) are still going to be preferred for NFL GM roles IMO. 3-5 years from now? Yes, it could be even more analytical and guys like Mensah will break through.
Mensah is highly intelligent, no doubt about that. But if these turn out to be the only two moving forward in this process, I'll be shocked if it isn't Poles. Poles was good enough to get a 2nd interview with the Giants, as well.
And now the Bears have requested a 2nd interview with Poles.
@"PurpleCrush" said: And now the Bears have requested a 2nd interview with Poles.Ownership consideration:
McCaskey family led by 100 year old mother vs the Wilf family.
I'm pretty sure we have the edge if we both want someone at GM
If you're worried, think back to the clip of McCasky talking about Kruetz.
@"supafreak84" said: Give me the player personnel guy, but he better leave Bienemy in KCSince Poles knows Bienemy better than any other potential GM candidate it could actually make Bienemy less likely to get the job here. Because of his familiarity with Bienemy, I would feel pretty confident in either direction he decided to go as he is not going to put his first GM job at risk unless he is very certain about the hire.
From a few conversations I had this morning, my understanding is that the Vikings want Ryan Poles to be their next GM but it might depend on whether Chicago makes him a better offer. So we wait and see
— Matthew Coller (@MatthewColler) January 22, 2022
@"minny65" said:@"PurpleCrush" said: And now the Bears have requested a 2nd interview with Poles. Ownership consideration:McCaskey family led by 100 year old mother vs the Wilf family.
I'm pretty sure we have the edge if we both want someone at GM
GM consideration:$
I can see the Bears not letting Poles out of the building beating us to the punch, knowing our interest.
THEN...
We sign Mensah, and the Wilf’s release the “We got our guy” bullshit
@"Vanguard83" said:@"minny65" said:@"PurpleCrush" said: And now the Bears have requested a 2nd interview with Poles. Ownership consideration:McCaskey family led by 100 year old mother vs the Wilf family.
I'm pretty sure we have the edge if we both want someone at GM
GM consideration:$
Also quarterback situation, facilities and willingness to spend (especially upfront payments).
The Vikings know Bienemy. He coached in Minnesota. There's a reason he's not getting many HC interviews. Lets leave it in the rearview.
Not endorsing Bieniemy, but Zach Taylor didn't call plays either.
But, the fact that Bieniemy has been the bridesmaids for so long gives me pause.
I still cannot believe the Vikings did not give me an interview especially after I sent them this presentation ...
A little birdie says Mensah & Mark Wilf are both Princeton graduates, not that it matters… ;)
@"Kentis" said: A little birdie says Mensah & Mark Wilf are both Princeton graduates, not that it matters… ;)Probably from the same frat.
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