How important is this when evaluating a QB?
Character, leadership, drinking habits, family stability, intelligence, work ethic, relationships status.
Seems we are mincing data on accuracy, velocity, W and L but not as much about the person.. How much importance should be on a persons behavior?
so when you say drinking habits, do mean wine vs beer vs booze guy, or more of a how good of a tolerance have they built up thing?
I think we all would like a good ol boy that marries his HS sweet heart, church going, helping old ladies cross the street, boy scout type, but honestly... even though nobody wants to admit it.... we are likely about to the point of cheering for the devil if he can deliver a lombardi.
@"JimmyinSD" said: so when you say drinking habits, do mean wine vs beer vs booze guy, or more of a how good of a tolerance have they built up thing?I think we all would like a good ol boy that marries his HS sweet heart, church going, helping old ladies cross the street, boy scout type, but honestly... even though nobody wants to admit it.... we are likely about to the point of cheering for the devil if he can deliver a lombardi.
I talking about Johnny Manziel. Party animal, drunk, making stupid decisions. I would hope discipline would be attribute you would want as the face of a franchise.
@"Still Hurtn" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: so when you say drinking habits, do mean wine vs beer vs booze guy, or more of a how good of a tolerance have they built up thing?I think we all would like a good ol boy that marries his HS sweet heart, church going, helping old ladies cross the street, boy scout type, but honestly... even though nobody wants to admit it.... we are likely about to the point of cheering for the devil if he can deliver a lombardi.
I talking about Johnny Manziel. Party animal, drunk, making stupid decisions. I would hope discipline would be attribute you would want as the face of a franchise.
most of my response was in jest, but given a choice, Kirk Cousins type of person, or Patrick Mahomes ability, which way do you go? I know it sounds outlandish, but there are fans that will put quality person over quality player and honestly I can respect the hell out of that, I just dont think they would be in the majority. I think most fans have suffered so long they would look the other way for a true blue franchise QB.EDIT: to answer the question... I have to say.. give me the better person. I can cheer for turds, but they always seem to lower my connection to the team and as a result diminish my fan experience, but even when they arent playing the best its generally pretty easy to over look things and support a good guy, at least during the game, afterwards... well I am not a hypocrite.
They have to consider whether character is going to prevent or hinder the person from performing to the best of their ability or performing at all. It has to factor in. It's part of the risk/reward assessment.
I don’t think most people care that much about “good guy”
characteristics. I think a lot of people
care about “bad guy” characteristics, like a lot of people don’t want the next
Deshaun Watson on their team no matter how good they are. Regarding partying, like PurplePastor said, I
think you clearly want a guy who has the discipline to become great. You don’t really want the guy who’s up late
every night partying, coming in late everyday hungover. You want a guy who wants to be the best at
football, rather than the guy who only casually cares about football but really
wants the paycheck to afford to bottle service.
@"Still Hurtn" said: Character, leadership, drinking habits, family stability, intelligence, work ethic, relationships status.Seems we are mincing data on accuracy, velocity, W and L but not as much about the person.. How much importance should be on a persons behavior?
You make an extremely important point here. GM’s put a ton of weighting of the personality and habits in their evaluations. We as eminently qualified armchair GM’s don’t get a shred of this in our “evaluations”. And we still bitch to high heaven about selections which we only have 20% of the inputs.
Fanatics we are.
Well, I wouldn't want to have a QB I didn't want to have a beer with. ;-)
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