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RUMOR: Kellen Moore 'intrigued' with the opportunity to coach the Vikings

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Read that last night, who knows what to believe. lol, Moore is the same age as Cousins.

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#1 · Jan 12, 2:43 AM
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My question is does Moore have a position coach that he could bring with him as his OC?somebody that could run his O in his absence or at least would allow him to take breaks from play calling to spend time with his DCs to make adjustments on the fly instead of implementing everything at half time.

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#22 · Jan 12, 1:12 PM
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@"JimmyinSD" said: My question is does Moore have a position coach that he could bring with him as his OC?somebody that could run his O in his absence or at least would allow him to take breaks from play calling to spend time with his DCs to make adjustments on the fly instead of implementing everything at half time.
Nussmeier their QB coach? He was TE coach before that and you could make the case that he helped Schultz come into this role starting last year. Had some OC experience at Florida and Bama, but it feels like every offensive coach in the NFL has experience from Bama these days. 
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#23 · Jan 12, 1:39 PM
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@"JimmyinSD" said: My question is does Moore have a position coach that he could bring with him as his OC?somebody that could run his O in his absence or at least would allow him to take breaks from play calling to spend time with his DCs to make adjustments on the fly instead of implementing everything at half time.
Mike Holmgren called his own plays. Bill Walsh. Andy Reid. Sean Peyton. Sean McVay. Kyle Shanahan.....just to name a few. I don't mind my head coach calling the offensive plays. It can be successful. The key isn't whether they call plays, don't call plays, come from a defensive or offensive background.

They just need to be good coaches with good staffs that have talented players. 

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#24 · Jan 12, 1:41 PM
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Dallas has consistently been one of the most under achieving teams in the league despite playing in the weakest division in sports.  I have no interest in taking anyone from their organization especially a 33 year old OC who does not have a lot of experience or has proven himself to be a legit OC. I really do not want another Kevin Stefanski and prefer an experienced HC.  My favorite candidate is Quinn. 

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@"JR44" said: Dallas has consistently been one of the most under achieving teams in the league despite playing in the weakest division in sports.  I have no interest in taking anyone from their organization especially a 33 year old OC who does not have a lot of experience or has proven himself to be a legit OC. I really do not want another Kevin Stefanski and prefer an experienced HC.  My favorite candidate is Quinn. 
So you have no interest in taking anyone from the Dallas organization, but your favorite...  Dan Quinn...  Is the Cowboys defensive coordinator...

Ummmmm...

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@"JR44" said: Dallas has consistently been one of the most under achieving teams in the league despite playing in the weakest division in sports.  I have no interest in taking anyone from their organization especially a 33 year old OC who does not have a lot of experience or has proven himself to be a legit OC. I really do not want another Kevin Stefanski and prefer an experienced HC.  My favorite candidate is Quinn. 
Under Moore Dallas has been one of the most prolific offenses in his 3 years.  The most TDs scored by any offense this year.  Last season they fell off because Dak was injured, and they had this guy that nobody even knows...his name is purple rush or cooper Kupp or Cooper Rush?  I know Zimmer doesn't know who he is :)  

Yes, Dallas has underachieved as a team, but it hasn't been on offense the part that Moore impacts.  I definitely get the youth and inexperience concern because I have it with him and Leftwich, the Rams guy, 49'ers guy-McDaniel etc.  The only thing that pushes me a little more towards being OK with Moore is if we also bring in the GM.  

I also, like what Stefanski has done in his 2 years with the Browns.  They haven't had back-to-back 8-win seasons in 20 years.  He is on the right track - IMO.  

I like Quinn but not as much as some of the guys with Offensive experience.  Plus you referenced the Cowboys and he is their DC and that is the area that has underachieved the most the last few years for them - IMO.  He has turned it around with the likes of ROY Parsons and this was his first year in that role but his previous 5 years as HC of the Falcons they weren't a Defensive powerhouse that is for sure.  Of course, we need someone who can coach the whole team but I prefer an offensive mindset/background.

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@"Wetlander" said:
@"JR44" said: Dallas has consistently been one of the most under achieving teams in the league despite playing in the weakest division in sports.  I have no interest in taking anyone from their organization especially a 33 year old OC who does not have a lot of experience or has proven himself to be a legit OC. I really do not want another Kevin Stefanski and prefer an experienced HC.  My favorite candidate is Quinn. 
So you have no interest in taking anyone from the Dallas organization, but your favorite...  Dan Quinn...  Is the Cowboys defensive coordinator...

Ummmmm...



Quinn has been coaching since 2001 and was the HC for Atlanta for 6 years before taking the DC job at Dallas just this year, so when I am referring to the history of the Cowboys, your take really does not apply, but nice try  :)

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@"JR44" said:
@"Wetlander" said:
@"JR44" said: Dallas has consistently been one of the most under achieving teams in the league despite playing in the weakest division in sports.  I have no interest in taking anyone from their organization especially a 33 year old OC who does not have a lot of experience or has proven himself to be a legit OC. I really do not want another Kevin Stefanski and prefer an experienced HC.  My favorite candidate is Quinn. 
So you have no interest in taking anyone from the Dallas organization, but your favorite...  Dan Quinn...  Is the Cowboys defensive coordinator...

Ummmmm...



Quinn has been coaching since 2001 and was the HC for Atlanta for 6 years before taking the DC job at Dallas just this year, so when I am referring to the history of the Cowboys, your take really does not apply, but nice try  :)


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@"minny65" said:
@"JR44" said: Dallas has consistently been one of the most under achieving teams in the league despite playing in the weakest division in sports.  I have no interest in taking anyone from their organization especially a 33 year old OC who does not have a lot of experience or has proven himself to be a legit OC. I really do not want another Kevin Stefanski and prefer an experienced HC.  My favorite candidate is Quinn. 
Under Moore Dallas has been one of the most prolific offenses in his 3 years.  The most TDs scored by any offense this year.  Last season they fell off because Dak was injured, and they had this guy that nobody even knows...his name is purple rush or cooper Kupp or Cooper Rush?  I know Zimmer doesn't know who he is :)  

Yes, Dallas has underachieved as a team, but it hasn't been on offense the part that Moore impacts.  I definitely get the youth and inexperience concern because I have it with him and Leftwich, the Rams guy, 49'ers guy-McDaniel etc.  The only thing that pushes me a little more towards being OK with Moore is if we also bring in the GM.  

I also, like what Stefanski has done in his 2 years with the Browns.  They haven't had back-to-back 8-win seasons in 20 years.  He is on the right track - IMO.  

I like Quinn but not as much as some of the guys with Offensive experience.  Plus you referenced the Cowboys and he is their DC and that is the area that has underachieved the most the last few years for them - IMO.  He has turned it around with the likes of ROY Parsons and this was his first year in that role but his previous 5 years as HC of the Falcons they weren't a Defensive powerhouse that is for sure.  Of course, we need someone who can coach the whole team but I prefer an offensive mindset/background.



Of the 14 teams in the playoffs, 10 appear to have Head Coaches with primarily offensive backgrounds, with 7/7 in the NFC being offensive minded. Nobody is stopping anyone these days, only limiting them...sure would have been nice to limit folks within 2 minutes this year but here we are...

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The past decade has skewed play towards scoring not D.  Denny Green track meet mentality would bring home the lombardi today
If Kellen Moore wants a vertical mindset with a team Like the Vikings we'll need more pass blocking geared olinemen and let JJ get vertical with Thielen under and Irv Smith and Cook underneath.  Bringing in Conklin to change it up.

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@"Akvike" said: The past decade has skewed play towards scoring not D.  Denny Green track meet mentality would bring home the lombardi today If Kellen Moore wants a vertical mindset with a team Like the Vikings we'll need more pass blocking geared olinemen and let JJ get vertical with Thielen under and Irv Smith and Cook underneath.  Bringing in Conklin to change it up.
In addition to everything you said, if ISM can put together the offseason that KJ Osborne did this past season then we’ll really be cooking with gas.
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: My question is does Moore have a position coach that he could bring with him as his OC?somebody that could run his O in his absence or at least would allow him to take breaks from play calling to spend time with his DCs to make adjustments on the fly instead of implementing everything at half time.
Mike Holmgren called his own plays. Bill Walsh. Andy Reid. Sean Peyton. Sean McVay. Kyle Shanahan.....just to name a few. I don't mind my head coach calling the offensive plays. It can be successful. The key isn't whether they call plays, don't call plays, come from a defensive or offensive background.

They just need to be good coaches with good staffs that have talented players. 



they need an assistant that can take their duties at times when they are needing to focus on being the HC and not the play caller.  I am not saying they need a full time play caller,  but I dont want another part time HC and full time coordinator all in one.  IMO that was one of Zimmers down falls was when the team was on D,  thats where his focus was, and when the D came off the field was not the time for him to be in the OCs ear about things he sees.  A HC can have a side gig,  but their focus should be on game management and making sure all 3 facets of the game get his attention when needed,  not when its convenient.  There are times I have seen Bienemy call plays for Reid,  not often,  but I am pretty sure Ive seen him doing it while Reid is working with other things.

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#33 · Jan 12, 8:23 PM
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Zimmer didn’t hold a meeting with his starting QB for years. It’s not going to take much to make me happy lol! I really like Moore. His offense is innovative and tricky as hell. I’d love to see how his style would impact Cousins. I would think they’d be a very good match considering Cousins downfield skill set. 
I could care less about his age. These guys have been around football their entire lives. They have the experience to run the show from that standpoint. The question is are they mature? (Josh McDaniel was not) Do they have the emotional intelligence to build a truly cohesive unit with open dialogue and the ability to work with the players (as opposed to being a Zimmer er dictator)? 

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