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Most media outlets share the same list of candidates for the GM openings around the league. Just like coaching candidates, its the name that is next in line under a successful organization over the past year, or someone that has washed out previously with another team. (ie: Scott Pioli or Thomas Dimitroff ) I have been trying to think outside of the box as I believe that is what the Wilfs are doing. I don't see them sending Rick off (who they really liked) only to grab the next Assistant GM from the Patriots, Bills, Packers, or whoever it is...just because they are behind "the guy" that is currently successful in that teams ranks. Year after year, teams throw spaghetti at the wall for their GM and at the coaching openings using this method, and more often than not, it does not work out.
I really like what some teams have done. One example that I can think of that was a hire that surprised me at the time, was John Lynch in San Francisco. I was laughing a little inside thinking...what are they thinking?....what qualifies THAT guy for THAT role? But the more I think about it, John Elway in Denver is the same kind of hire. People would argue Elway has not done well lately, but hiring Elway netted Denver a Superbowl. Nothing lasts forever, and when they needed a change, they hired George Payton, but kept on Elway in a supporting role. So, I got to thinking...who knows football players better than football players?
Both Elway and Lynch have done well, and I am not saying that I know the first thing about what makes a good GM, but how would fans here feel if we followed that formula with a guy like Matt Birk? Matt is part of the leadership within the players union currently as the NFL director of football development. Matt also is a Harvard grad, was a hall of fame player at an important position in the NFL, played for the Vikings, won a Superbowl with the Ravens etc. He should know a thing or two about QB play which is important in today's game. The list goes on and on. To me, this would be the kind of hire that would bring a fresh perspective and should be able to construct a coaching staff and roster that could compete at a high level.
Not that it matters much what we think, but would you guys be on board with a hire like this? To me, it excites me more than some guy that I have never hard of that has been burried in someone else's front office ranks. Who else would/could fit as a candidate with a previous connection to the team and have the pedigree to be our GM? Discuss away on this happy day!!

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@"betaman88" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"betaman88" said:
@"Hawkvike25" said: Matt Birk is way too Non PC to be GM. You think the Vikes had a mess with Covid this year? It would be twice as bad with Birk as GM
What makes you think this?
You ever heard him on KFan?  The dude just says what he thinks and sometimes that isn't whats popular.  I respect it,  but brutal honesty isn't appreciated by most.
Yea Jimmy, thanks for being a dick! This is the exact kind of interaction that makes this community thrive.
How is my response being a dick?  You asked a question and I answered it without making it personal in any way towards you.  If anything in our exchange would make a person feel unwelcome on this board it would be your name calling response to my post,  not the other way around. .
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#22 · Jan 11, 5:07 AM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"betaman88" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"betaman88" said:
@"Hawkvike25" said: Matt Birk is way too Non PC to be GM. You think the Vikes had a mess with Covid this year? It would be twice as bad with Birk as GM
What makes you think this?
You ever heard him on KFan?  The dude just says what he thinks and sometimes that isn't whats popular.  I respect it,  but brutal honesty isn't appreciated by most.
Yea Jimmy, thanks for being a dick! This is the exact kind of interaction that makes this community thrive.
How is my response being a dick?  You asked a question and I answered it without making it personal in any way towards you.  If anything in our exchange would make a person feel unwelcome on this board it would be your name calling response to my post,  not the other way around. .

Sounds reasonable...

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#23 · Jan 11, 5:50 AM
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@"betaman88" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"betaman88" said:
@"Hawkvike25" said: Matt Birk is way too Non PC to be GM. You think the Vikes had a mess with Covid this year? It would be twice as bad with Birk as GM
What makes you think this?
You ever heard him on KFan?  The dude just says what he thinks and sometimes that isn't whats popular.  I respect it,  but brutal honesty isn't appreciated by most.
Yea Jimmy, thanks for being a dick! This is the exact kind of interaction that makes this community thrive.
Did you forget your meds?
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#24 · Jan 11, 6:10 AM
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The long intro can be skipped if you like; the list is pretty comprehensive:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/12/31/future-general-managers-week-17-preview

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#25 · Jan 11, 6:49 AM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"betaman88" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"betaman88" said:
@"Hawkvike25" said: Matt Birk is way too Non PC to be GM. You think the Vikes had a mess with Covid this year? It would be twice as bad with Birk as GM
What makes you think this?
You ever heard him on KFan?  The dude just says what he thinks and sometimes that isn't whats popular.  I respect it,  but brutal honesty isn't appreciated by most.
Yea Jimmy, thanks for being a dick! This is the exact kind of interaction that makes this community thrive.
How is my response being a dick?  You asked a question and I answered it without making it personal in any way towards you.  If anything in our exchange would make a person feel unwelcome on this board it would be your name calling response to my post,  not the other way around. .
My apologies Jimmy...I was watching the championship game and read your response incorrectly from my phone. I read it wrong. My bad!
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#26 · Jan 11, 7:43 AM
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@"betaman88" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"betaman88" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"betaman88" said:
@"Hawkvike25" said: Matt Birk is way too Non PC to be GM. You think the Vikes had a mess with Covid this year? It would be twice as bad with Birk as GM
What makes you think this?
You ever heard him on KFan?  The dude just says what he thinks and sometimes that isn't whats popular.  I respect it,  but brutal honesty isn't appreciated by most.
Yea Jimmy, thanks for being a dick! This is the exact kind of interaction that makes this community thrive.
How is my response being a dick?  You asked a question and I answered it without making it personal in any way towards you.  If anything in our exchange would make a person feel unwelcome on this board it would be your name calling response to my post,  not the other way around. .
My apologies Jimmy...I was watching the championship game and read your response incorrectly from my phone. I read it wrong. My bad!
All good,  it happens.
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#27 · Jan 11, 8:08 AM
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@"StickyBun" said: Couldn't think of two worse hiring candidates than Birk and Dungy. 

Hopefully we see some interview requests reported today/tomorrow. 


Just curious, but why would he be worse then any of these never done anythings that have been mentioned?

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@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Couldn't think of two worse hiring candidates than Birk and Dungy. 

Hopefully we see some interview requests reported today/tomorrow. 


Just curious, but why would he be worse then any of these never done anythings that have been mentioned?


Birk has zero coaching experience, why would he even be considered?? Tony Dungy is 66 years old and last coached 13 years ago. I mean, its kind of self evident. 

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#29 · Jan 11, 10:14 AM
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Couldn't think of two worse hiring candidates than Birk and Dungy. 

Hopefully we see some interview requests reported today/tomorrow. 


Just curious, but why would he be worse then any of these never done anythings that have been mentioned?


Birk has zero coaching experience, why would he even be considered?? Tony Dungy is 66 years old and last coached 13 years ago. I mean, its kind of self evident. 


I agree on Birk but talking Dungy specifically. He may be 66 but still very sharp and heavily involved in the league and what goes on. He knows how to rebuild rosters having done it in both Tampa Bay and Indy. 

I don't know, I'd take Dungy over the Rex Hogan's of the world. And I'm talking specifically about the GM position, not the head coach gig 

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@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Couldn't think of two worse hiring candidates than Birk and Dungy. 

Hopefully we see some interview requests reported today/tomorrow. 


Just curious, but why would he be worse then any of these never done anythings that have been mentioned?


Birk has zero coaching experience, why would he even be considered?? Tony Dungy is 66 years old and last coached 13 years ago. I mean, its kind of self evident. 


I agree on Birk but talking Dungy specifically. He may be 66 but still very sharp and heavily involved in the league and what goes on. He knows how to rebuild rosters having done it in both Tampa Bay and Indy. 

I don't know, I'd take Dungy over the Rex Hogan's of the world. And I'm talking specifically about the GM position, not the head coach gig 



I saw a GM possibilities list this morning and Rex hogan wasn't even mentioned. When I saw that name yesterday I figured Rex must have had a good publicist.

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#31 · Jan 11, 10:26 AM
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I can see the perfect Viking GM name at least, Monti Ossenfort. Yes he is real.

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#32 · Jan 11, 10:35 AM
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Couldn't think of two worse hiring candidates than Birk and Dungy. 

Hopefully we see some interview requests reported today/tomorrow. 


Just curious, but why would he be worse then any of these never done anythings that have been mentioned?


Birk has zero coaching experience, why would he even be considered?? Tony Dungy is 66 years old and last coached 13 years ago. I mean, its kind of self evident. 


I mean, you'd think so.

Then again we got folks chasing horse dewormer with urine, soooooo...

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@"JustinTime18™" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Couldn't think of two worse hiring candidates than Birk and Dungy. 

Hopefully we see some interview requests reported today/tomorrow. 


Just curious, but why would he be worse then any of these never done anythings that have been mentioned?


Birk has zero coaching experience, why would he even be considered?? Tony Dungy is 66 years old and last coached 13 years ago. I mean, its kind of self evident. 


I mean, you'd think so.

Then again we got folks chasing horse dewormer with urine, soooooo...



I wasn't speaking about Birk for our coaching spot. My argument for him was specific to our GM opening.

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Please no 66 year olds who haven't coached in a decade... good lord.  Get us a relatively young guy with a fresh perspective and real upside.  Please.   

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#35 · Jan 11, 1:29 PM
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@"comet52" said: Please no 66 year olds who haven't coached in a decade... good lord.  Get us a relatively young guy with a fresh perspective and real upside.  Please.   
Lol you say "good lord" as if I suggested making Ellen Degeneres the GM. Dungy is a hall of famer who is still very, very active in league circles. Dungy has spent his whole career learning from some of the greatest minds in league history and knows how to revamp rosters. He might have no interest and be perfectly happy with his analyst job. With that said, his ties to the state and organization would be worth making that phone call. I'd trust Dungy making organizational decisions much more then Rex Hogan and some of these others names that are being thrown around 
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At least we aren't the Bears.  I thought this was pretty funny.

As performance art goes, George McCaskey’s one-man show Monday afternoon will be difficult to top in 2022.
Playing the role of finger-wagging corporate executive on a 59-minute video conference call with the media, McCaskey lambasted high school students for their “Fire Matt Nagy” chants at Nagy’s son’s football game, insinuated one-time All-Pro center Olin Kreutz was a liar, informed us his 99-year-old mother, Virginia, was “very, very disappointed” in the Bears’ season and wrapped things up with a halfhearted delivery of “Go Bearsss.”
Say what you will about the McCaskey family and its mismanagement of the Bears, but it has retained a staggering sense of self-confidence, at times bordering on arrogance, despite a glaring lack of success under its stewardship.
McCaskey’s news conference to explain the firings of general manager Ryan Pace and coach Matt Nagy was not televised, a shame in a town like Chicago that treasures its football and theater scene. But at least the Bears were kind enough to stream it on their Twitter app, perhaps knowing it would become an instant classic with baby boomers and TikTokkers alike.

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#37 · Jan 11, 2:33 PM
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I want an experienced GM, but just for fun if we are throwing out ex Viking alumni, how about Corey Chavous who eats, drinks and sleeps the draft

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#38 · Jan 11, 2:55 PM
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@"JR44" said: I want an experienced GM, but just for fun if we are throwing out ex Viking alumni, how about Corey Chavous who eats, drinks and sleeps the draft
He does follow the draft quite a bit, but he works for CBSSports and they have the worst mock drafts ever. Kinda feel like that automatically makes him ineligible haha
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Not going to speculate on any names., but my feeling is the Vikings will need to ask each candidate what their vision for the Vikings is. How do you view the current roster and how do we get to a championship?
What changes in players and coaches need to be made? What scheme do you think will be successful? Basically, do you know where the Vikings are now and what is your plan to get them where they need to be in the future?
If they come in unprepared, and don't do a little research on the Vikings current state of affairs. I don't want them. If they give generic canned answers to those questions, I wouldn't be interested.
If the GM comes in without a plan, it will likely be more of the sos.

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From Daily Norsemen:

Adam Schefter of ESPN is reporting that the Vikings have requested permission to interview Ryan Poles for their GM opening. Poles currently serves as the Executive Director of Player Personnel for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Poles has been with the Chiefs’ organization since 2009, and despite all of those years of experience is still just 36 years old. Our friends over at Arrowhead Pride inform us that he started out as a scouting assistant, and has since ascended to the roles of College Scouting Coordinator (for six years), Director of College Scouting (two years), and Assistant Director of Player Personnel (three years) before assuming his current role in the Kansas City front office.
In what was a bit of a surprise, at least to Chiefs fans, Poles was one of the four finalists for the Carolina Panthers’ GM job last offseason, a job that ultimately went to Scott Fitterer, who was then the Seattle Seahawks’ Vice President of Football Operations.
With this addition, the list of GM candidates for the Vikings now numbers half a dozen.

  • Kwesi Adofo-Mensah
  • Brandon Brown
  • Glenn Cook
  • Ryan Poles
  • John Spytek
  • Eliot Wolf

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