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Raise a glass for Zimmer

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I know its a good day to shit on Zimmer..  I was on board with firing him because frankly his time was up here.

That being said.  The guy took a team that hadn't had success (minus the Favre year) since Denny Green and made them a defensive powerhouse.  The dude got some really shitty hands dealt while he was here...but that's life in the nfl.

Anyway, unlike the last several head coaches we've gone through, Zim deserves a pint in his name.  I wish him and his family the best.  Enjoy your hot girlfriend and beautiful ranch!!
Skol!!!!!

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#1 · Jan 10, 9:02 AM
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The two long-time leaders of the franchise handled the news differently. Spielman stuck around the facility because he wanted to speak with the players, all of whom he signed. He wished them luck and thanked them for their hard work. He was emotional in his address to the team. After that, he released a lengthy statement, writing, among other things, “While today is emotional, I wish the Minnesota Vikings and Vikings fans nothing but future success.”
Zimmer didn’t speak with the players after the news came down but did release a statement.
Zimmer’s relationship with some of the team’s key players had become strained. Even some of the ones he knew best and worked with the most became disenchanted with his leadership. Linebacker Eric Kendricks, who was a fixture of Zimmer’s defenses, didn’t mince words when discussing his former coach.
When asked about his relationship with Zimmer, which had been perceived as positive before Monday, Kendricks said: “I feel like there were some things left out there, as far as our relationship was concerned. That’s something you have to ask him.” Later during Kendricks’ press conference, he responded to a question about what culture he wants under the next Vikings coach by saying he wants everyone’s voice to be heard. Then he added, “I don’t think a fear-based organization is the way to go.”

Rick was classy
Zim was 100% pure asshole.

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A few ex long time Vikings may disagree about Rick being classy.  Of course EK has always been the voice of reason.  Nothing sez mature like a bitter shot at the coach that drafted you and helped make you a star.

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@"JustinTime18™" said: The two long-time leaders of the franchise handled the news differently. Spielman stuck around the facility because he wanted to speak with the players, all of whom he signed. He wished them luck and thanked them for their hard work. He was emotional in his address to the team. After that, he released a lengthy statement, writing, among other things, “While today is emotional, I wish the Minnesota Vikings and Vikings fans nothing but future success.” Zimmer didn’t speak with the players after the news came down but did release a statement. Zimmer’s relationship with some of the team’s key players had become strained. Even some of the ones he knew best and worked with the most became disenchanted with his leadership. Linebacker Eric Kendricks, who was a fixture of Zimmer’s defenses, didn’t mince words when discussing his former coach. When asked about his relationship with Zimmer, which had been perceived as positive before Monday, Kendricks said: “I feel like there were some things left out there, as far as our relationship was concerned. That’s something you have to ask him.” Later during Kendricks’ press conference, he responded to a question about what culture he wants under the next Vikings coach by saying he wants everyone’s voice to be heard. Then he added, “I don’t think a fear-based organization is the way to go.”

Rick was classy
Zim was 100% pure asshole.


100 percent?  That's kinda harsh.  Let us be reasonable and say 99 and 44/100 percent.   :p

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@"comet52" said:
@"JustinTime18™" said: The two long-time leaders of the franchise handled the news differently. Spielman stuck around the facility because he wanted to speak with the players, all of whom he signed. He wished them luck and thanked them for their hard work. He was emotional in his address to the team. After that, he released a lengthy statement, writing, among other things, “While today is emotional, I wish the Minnesota Vikings and Vikings fans nothing but future success.” Zimmer didn’t speak with the players after the news came down but did release a statement. Zimmer’s relationship with some of the team’s key players had become strained. Even some of the ones he knew best and worked with the most became disenchanted with his leadership. Linebacker Eric Kendricks, who was a fixture of Zimmer’s defenses, didn’t mince words when discussing his former coach. When asked about his relationship with Zimmer, which had been perceived as positive before Monday, Kendricks said: “I feel like there were some things left out there, as far as our relationship was concerned. That’s something you have to ask him.” Later during Kendricks’ press conference, he responded to a question about what culture he wants under the next Vikings coach by saying he wants everyone’s voice to be heard. Then he added, “I don’t think a fear-based organization is the way to go.”

Rick was classy
Zim was 100% pure asshole.


100 percent?  That's kinda harsh.  Let us be reasonable and say 99 and 44/100 percent.   :p


I can agree to that.

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@"greediron" said: A few ex long time Vikings may disagree about Rick being classy.  Of course EK has always been the voice of reason.  Nothing sez mature like a bitter shot at the coach that drafted you and helped make you a star.
I think Kendricks is a tremendous football player and team leader that played his heart for this team.  We don't know what was said in team meetings or on the practice fields.  I trust Eric's judgement and evaluation of the coach.  And I agree, a fear based coaching style is not the way to go...
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@"IDVikingfan" said:
@"greediron" said: A few ex long time Vikings may disagree about Rick being classy.  Of course EK has always been the voice of reason.  Nothing sez mature like a bitter shot at the coach that drafted you and helped make you a star.
I think Kendricks is a tremendous football player and team leader that played his heart for this team.  We don't know what was said in team meetings or on the practice fields.  I trust Eric's judgement and evaluation of the coach.  And I agree, a fear based coaching style is not the way to go...
Fear based coaching is probably why the Vikings went through so many kickers, and why Cousins checked the ball down a lot. Even though Zimmer said, he needed to open up more, did he really mean it? If you live in fear of making mistakes, you can’t perform at your best.
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@"IDVikingfan" said:
@"greediron" said: A few ex long time Vikings may disagree about Rick being classy.  Of course EK has always been the voice of reason.  Nothing sez mature like a bitter shot at the coach that drafted you and helped make you a star.
I think Kendricks is a tremendous football player and team leader that played his heart for this team.  We don't know what was said in team meetings or on the practice fields.  I trust Eric's judgement and evaluation of the coach.  And I agree, a fear based coaching style is not the way to go...
EK is a tremendous football player, but I don't recall him wearing the green dot even as the Mike who was always on the field.  Was he ever a team captain?  I don't recall.  I don't trust many players evaluation of coaches.  And like I said, taking a bitter parting shot sez plenty about him.
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@"greediron" said:
@"IDVikingfan" said:
@"greediron" said: A few ex long time Vikings may disagree about Rick being classy.  Of course EK has always been the voice of reason.  Nothing sez mature like a bitter shot at the coach that drafted you and helped make you a star.
I think Kendricks is a tremendous football player and team leader that played his heart for this team.  We don't know what was said in team meetings or on the practice fields.  I trust Eric's judgement and evaluation of the coach.  And I agree, a fear based coaching style is not the way to go...
EK is a tremendous football player, but I don't recall him wearing the green dot even as the Mike who was always on the field.  Was he ever a team captain?  I don't recall.  I don't trust many players evaluation of coaches.  And like I said, taking a bitter parting shot sez plenty about him.
I love Kendricks but his play this year had regressed significantly.  I would imagine like any good coach that Zimmer called him out on it and apparently he couldn't handle it.

I like Zimmer, I think he got dealt a few bad cards here otherwise things could have been different.  Everyone has their own communication style, he is old school and maybe did not want to break down in front of the team or maybe he had already addressed the team last night, certainly no one here knows for sure. 

In regards to the classless poster who chose to use profanity on Zimmer, I would say that it certainly seems like a classic case of an accurate self projection. 

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@"greediron" said:
@"IDVikingfan" said:
@"greediron" said: A few ex long time Vikings may disagree about Rick being classy.  Of course EK has always been the voice of reason.  Nothing sez mature like a bitter shot at the coach that drafted you and helped make you a star.
I think Kendricks is a tremendous football player and team leader that played his heart for this team.  We don't know what was said in team meetings or on the practice fields.  I trust Eric's judgement and evaluation of the coach.  And I agree, a fear based coaching style is not the way to go...
EK is a tremendous football player, but I don't recall him wearing the green dot even as the Mike who was always on the field.  Was he ever a team captain?  I don't recall.  I don't trust many players evaluation of coaches.  And like I said, taking a bitter parting shot sez plenty about him.
Only a team leader if wear the green dot (coaches decision) or team captain?  (shrug) still believe he is respected by his teammates and clearly leads by example.  We don't know the back story behind his comments.  We can have differing opinions as to whether his comments say negative things about Zimmer or Kendricks or both, no problem.
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#30 · Jan 10, 6:17 PM
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@"JR44" said: I love Kendricks but his play this year had regressed significantly.  I would imagine like any good coach that Zimmer called him out on it and apparently he couldn't handle it.


Did EK's play regress significantly?  Let's see what the stats show for 2021:

Best year for total number of tackles  126
Best year for assists  63
4th best year for tackles 63  (3 below 2nd best year)
Tied second best year for interceptions 2
Best year for sacks  5

Our defense suffers much more when Kendricks is out versus Barr.  Zimmer would have to be a total dick to call out a player having his best year but maybe he did...

ADD IN: EK played 15 games in 2021

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@"IDVikingfan" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"IDVikingfan" said:
@"greediron" said: A few ex long time Vikings may disagree about Rick being classy.  Of course EK has always been the voice of reason.  Nothing sez mature like a bitter shot at the coach that drafted you and helped make you a star.
I think Kendricks is a tremendous football player and team leader that played his heart for this team.  We don't know what was said in team meetings or on the practice fields.  I trust Eric's judgement and evaluation of the coach.  And I agree, a fear based coaching style is not the way to go...
EK is a tremendous football player, but I don't recall him wearing the green dot even as the Mike who was always on the field.  Was he ever a team captain?  I don't recall.  I don't trust many players evaluation of coaches.  And like I said, taking a bitter parting shot sez plenty about him.
Only a team leader if wear the green dot (coaches decision) or team captain?  (shrug) still believe he is respected by his teammates and clearly leads by example.  We don't know the back story behind his comments.  We can have differing opinions as to whether his comments say negative things about Zimmer or Kendricks or both, no problem.
No doubt he is respected and leads through heart and and example.  But not being voted a captain does say something IMO.  And as you said, it probably speaks negatively of both.  I just think that in parting, why burn bridges and make headlines?
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