Should they trade Hunter?

Interesting thought. I don't think I'd do it because we know what this defense is without him. However the Jets do have two top ten picks this year (currently 4 and 7). If they offered say #7, a 4th, and a conditional 3rd next year...would that get it done?

I think another thing that would kill this is its such a pass rusher heavy draft. 

@"supafreak84" said: Interesting thought. I don't think I'd do it because we know what this defense is without him. However the Jets do have two top ten picks this year (currently 4 and 7). If they offered say #7, a 4th, and a conditional 3rd next year...would that get it done?

If I had a say-so on that...I'd pull the trigger really quick.

@"supafreak84" said: Interesting thought. I don't think I'd do it because we know what this defense is without him. However the Jets do have two top ten picks this year (currently 4 and 7). If they offered say #7, a 4th, and a conditional 3rd next year...would that get it done?

On the books for $26 million next year.

7 games out of the last 33.

But guys like Hunter don't grow on trees. Going to be a tricky contract, but there's a lot of tread left on that tire. I have to think Hunter is a big reason why a HC takes this job.

@"JustinTime18™" said: On the books for $26 million next year.

7 games out of the last 33.

But guys like Hunter don't grow on trees. Going to be a tricky contract, but there's a lot of tread left on that tire. I have to think Hunter is a big reason why a HC takes this job.

This looks like another speculation trade situation.

@"StickyBun" said: This looks like another speculation trade situation.

Without Griff and Hunter our DL under preformed.  HOWEVER, the guys in there looked serviceable.  We need splash players that can contribute for years.
So a non QB top 10 player you're looking at what?  50/50 they turn into decent starters?  Do you try to coach up the next Hunter with our guys and take the lower salary of a young gun? 

Maybe.....its the injuries that has me leaning towards doing the deal.  But if you're pretty confident Hunter comes back like his old self then he's the center piece of our defense.  One that desperately needs play makers.

I do not think they will or should trade Hunter.  It would be selling low.

The Vikings re-did his deal last year and moved most of his 2022 salary and a good part of his 2023 salary into the 18M roster bonus that is payable on the 5th day of the new league year (March of 20220.  They also added two void years which was very smart by Brez.

I expect that they will take all (or most) of that 18M roster bonus and convert it to a restructure bonus and create needed cap space.  They do not need his permission to do this salary cap accounting move either.

For example, they can convert 12M which would lower his cap hit to 17.12M from the 26.12M which saves 9M.
In 2023, his cap hit rises to 11.62M from 8.62M.  Since the 2023 cap will likely be at about 220M or more, they can easily handle this increase.

It is fortunate that he has not played (not for this season) because it allows them to NOT give him a new deal (how can he ask for one after not playing the last two years) and allows both sides to see if he is truly worth a massive deal.  Win win.  IMHO.

If I am GM, I convert most of that roster bonus (depending on what else I wanted to do) and let him prove that he has can play 16 games and produce like he has in the past.

He has no leverage for a new contract.

Hunter, Cook, Barr, Cousins, are all expendable.. time for new blood from GM down

I think at this point the defense needs to be gutted.  Say what you will about who was injured, or didn't play, but that Saints game last year was the end of the vaunted Zim defense.  The 2 DT's we picked up were misses.  Pierce might be a good player, but he is never on the field.  Tomlinson hasn't shown me anything.  Barr is gone and there is 0 point in resigning him.  Vigil was ok but nothing that can't be replaced.  PP and Woods were on 1 year deals, and I don't think you break the bank for them.  Harry's extension was a miss.  Injured or not, the league knows what type of player Hunter is.  As much as I don't want to, its time to trade him while the value is there.  Same with Kendricks.  I like him, but I don't think he has what it takes to be a leader. 

For the bright spots, I do like what Wonnum and Bynum have shown.  Same with Dantzler and James Lynch at times. 

@"El_Padre" said:

I think at this point the defense needs to be gutted.  Say what you will about who was injured, or didn't play, but that Saints game last year was the end of the vaunted Zim defense.  The 2 DT's we picked up were misses.  Pierce might be a good player, but he is never on the field.  Tomlinson hasn't shown me anything.  Barr is gone and there is 0 point in resigning him.  Vigil was ok but nothing that can't be replaced.  PP and Woods were on 1 year deals, and I don't think you break the bank for them.  Harry's extension was a miss.  Injured or not, the league knows what type of player Hunter is.  As much as I don't want to, its time to trade him while the value is there.  Same with Kendricks.  I like him, but I don't think he has what it takes to be a leader. 

For the bright spots, I do like what Wonnum and Bynum have shown.  Same with Dantzler and James Lynch at times. 

Why stop with Hunter? Cousins, Cook, Jefferson, Kendricks...OMFG think of the cap space!!! If we play our cards right, in a couple years, we can be the Lions.

@"MaroonBells" said: Why stop with Hunter? Cousins, Cook, Jefferson, Kendricks...OMFG think of the cap space!!! If we play our cards right, in a couple years, we can be the Lions.

@"HappyViking" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Why stop with Hunter? Cousins, Cook, Jefferson, Kendricks...OMFG think of the cap space!!! If we play our cards right, in a couple years, we can be the Lions.

Actually, I'd be on board with Hunter and Cousins both being traded for 1st round picks and possibly multiple others.  Hunter can't stay on the field, and both would allow some FA shopping without their contracts on the Viking's books. Yeah, I'm ok with rebuilding with a new GM and coach.  Having 3 1st round picks and a new GM that would know what to with them, would be great.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"HappyViking" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Why stop with Hunter? Cousins, Cook, Jefferson, Kendricks...OMFG think of the cap space!!! If we play our cards right, in a couple years, we can be the Lions.

Actually, I'd be on board with Hunter and Cousins both being traded for 1st round picks and possibly multiple others.  Hunter can't stay on the field, and both would allow some FA shopping without their contracts on the Viking's books. Yeah, I'm ok with rebuilding with a new GM and coach.  Having 3 1st round picks and a new GM that would know what to with them, would be great.

Just what the Lions thought...about 5 or 6 times. And who is this GM "that would know what to do with them"? Just curious.

Actually, I'll go you one further. You can not only name your GM, but he can even be a GM who's not available. The BEST GM in the NFL. 

Go....

Rather not sell low on Hunter, especially if they can make the money work even better like @MarkSP18 is saying. Hunter is the lone bright spot on the DL.

@"pattersaur" said: Rather not sell low on Hunter, especially if they can make the money work even better like @MarkSP18 is saying. Hunter is the lone bright spot on the DL.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"pattersaur" said: Rather not sell low on Hunter, especially if they can make the money work even better like @MarkSP18 is saying. Hunter is the lone bright spot on the DL.

Problem is,  hes not often on the DL,  his ass spends more time on the IR than the DL.  He's a freak when healthy,  but maybe his freak body is what is leading to being often injured?